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nebula
post Jan 24 2010, 02:24 PM
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I found it:

http://forums.carm.org/v/showthread.php?p=5796687
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post Jan 24 2010, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (nebula @ Jan 24 2010, 02:24 PM) *




Yes, but it doesn't let you in..... unless you go to CARM.org and then you can't navigate very far.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/noidea.gif)
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post Jan 24 2010, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (OneLight @ Jan 24 2010, 01:07 PM) *
Mike, there is a difference in what I say and what Seeker is saying. Can you see it?

Isaiah 55:11
So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.


I am trying to see it?
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post Jan 24 2010, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (Believer1997 @ Jan 24 2010, 02:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Seeker100 @ Jan 24 2010, 10:15 AM) *
The Bible is a collection of books and letters and religious writings that have been written over the course of many 100's of years. This book is hands down, the most read book, and by far the most influential in human history. At one time it was a crime to have this book in one's posession, in one's one native language. At one time the penalty of of such an act was to burnt alive. The Church of the day enforced these rules. Many people however in their zeal to make the bible available to the masses defied the laws about translating and distributing the bible in peoples' native tonques. Many of these people paid the ultimate price. Men like Hus, Wycliffe and many others must never be forgotten. We must never take for granted our bibles, in our homes, libraries and book stores, as they did not get there without a severe struggle.

What is so unique about this book? This book is an amazing book. It is a book that shows many things. The book shows God's active work to unite man to Himself. The book also shows how man can become united with God and in so doing become his true self and have the light of life! The book also has the most significant historical event that has ever happened on this earth. God has become a human, walked our earth, was rejected, crucified and rose from the dead. It is the ultimate historical event between God and man.

The bible thus contains the words of life. It contains the way man can become whole with His creator. This book however is written in a special way. It is not written to be understood with eyes of the flesh. Many words can have many meanings, thus totally changing what the interpreter's message of what the bible says. Thus there are many interpretations of the bible and many of these interpretations are for purposes that are not good. Many of these interpretations are deceitfully accepted as they promise people life without actually having to obey God's voice. Thus even though the bible shows us how we can have life, many who are not spiritual use the bible to continue in their own spiritual death. The bible is true but it must be read properly or it becomes a tool of the devil.

We are not alone in this world. None of us are alone. God is with us all and He wants to gift us the gift, of Himself. He is here to give us life, joy and meaning. He is here to give us love. We must always obey His voice in our work, our relationships, our understanding of reality and our reading of the bible. Let's all obey God's voice when we read the bible so that its message of life can be revealed.

Praise the Lord!!





How odd - this very same post was posted on a site called CARM.org - did you post it there?


Yes I post on several sites
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post Jan 24 2010, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (Believer1997 @ Jan 24 2010, 02:29 PM) *
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Yes, but it doesn't let you in..... unless you go to CARM.org and then you can't navigate very far.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/noidea.gif)

The post was created 3 hours ago and there are no replies. Seeker100 is the author. You have to be a member of the forums in order to view other posts by Seeker.
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post Jan 24 2010, 02:35 PM
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Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

I guess I do?
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post Jan 24 2010, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (Seeker100 @ Jan 24 2010, 02:33 PM) *
QUOTE (OneLight @ Jan 24 2010, 01:07 PM) *
Mike, there is a difference in what I say and what Seeker is saying. Can you see it?

Isaiah 55:11
So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.


I am trying to see it?


What??

You mean you can't see the Emperor's clothes? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Mike.

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post Jan 24 2010, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (wayofthespirit @ Jan 24 2010, 10:43 AM) *
Our only problem today is knowing how to use them in subordination to God's Holy Spirit who, in reality and in contrast to Catholicism's Sacred Magesterium, is the only source that can infallibly convert written words into the Living Word of God.

I am all for listening to the Holy Spirit.

However, by what standard do you determine which though, insight, vision, whatever is actually from the Holy Spirit?

How many cults and false teaching have been and are around based on what people believe they heard from the Holy Spirit? (And yes, several genuinely do believe it was the Holy Spirit.)




What you write here is very very true. Lots of cults and false teachings come from people claiming to be from God or that the teaching is of the Lord.

How do you tell? It is very important that you be able to tell. You must listen to God yourself. You must draw close to His Spirit in you. From there He will guide you as to what is correct and what is false.
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post Jan 24 2010, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (wayofthespirit @ Jan 24 2010, 10:43 AM) *
Indeed.

Never has a book been compiled for such questionable original intent only to end up serving such divine objective.

God is Sovereign and will use man's endeavours utterly as he wishes in the unfolding of his will.

Emperor Constantine ordered the convening of the first Council of Laodicea because he had embraced the early Church as being Constantinople's State religion.

He was intent that it should not be undermined by division and the 'canonisation' of which scriptures should be accorded authority and which should be rejected was ordered for the purpose of marginalising the sects which claimed authority for the epistles which supported their specialities and disputed authority for those which undernmined them.
On completion Constantine order the church to produce the first recorded 50 copies of a composite 'Bible' for distribution throughout Constantinople in the 4th century.
Not the best of original motivation.

Next production was of the Latin Vulgate with Catholicism's Sacred Magesterium claiming sole authority to read, interpret, and issue selected edicts to control the beliefs and conduct of their adherents.
Again somewhat suspect motivation.

But God is Sovereign and we wouldn't have those scriptures today were it not for those suspect origins.

Our only problem today is knowing how to use them in subordination to God's Holy Spirit who, in reality and in contrast to Catholicism's Sacred Magesterium, is the only source that can infallibly convert written words into the Living Word of God.

PTL indeed.

Mike.


Good Post Mike!!

Praise the Lord!!!
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post Jan 24 2010, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE (Believer1997 @ Jan 24 2010, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE (nebula @ Jan 24 2010, 02:24 PM) *




Yes, but it doesn't let you in..... unless you go to CARM.org and then you can't navigate very far.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/noidea.gif)



Oh man can't those people make anything easy.
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