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 Oct 18 2009, 08:07 AM
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Royal Member  Group: Banned Posts: 4432 Joined: 23-October 04 Member No.: 12934  |
QUOTE (Itinerant Lurker @ Oct 18 2009, 07:15 AM)  Moderators, what is it that you actually do? You now have a thread on the motivations of darwinists simultaneously discussing radiocarbon dating, theology, dendrochronology, and the dubious connection between Hitler and Darwin. . .so basically pretty much everything except what's mentioned in the OP. I've given up trying to organize threads into specific topics for you but come on, at least some moderation to keep threads on topic would be nice. LOL - and yet you are a main contributor to the simultaneous discussion of radiocarbon dating, theology, dendrochronology, and the dubious connection between Hitler and Darwin. I would recommend having a private session with the mods if you have criticism of their duties. It is called board protocol. For the record - you have only "organize threads" in your mind - not in reality. |
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Oct 18 2009, 08:08 AM
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Royal Member Group: Banned Posts: 4432 Joined: 23-October 04 Member No.: 12934 |
QUOTE (Itinerant Lurker @ Oct 18 2009, 06:54 AM) QUOTE (horizoneast @ Oct 18 2009, 12:01 AM) You are still confused. Do you deny the historical record that draws a connecting line between the the racist naturalism of Darwin - to the German Darwinists - to Hitler - to the gas chambers? Do you know history or are you also as deficient in that subject as you are in science? Wow, I guess Darwin's name must show up a lot then in Hitler's speeches and letters. You are still confused. Do you deny the historical record that draws a connecting line between the the racist naturalism of Darwin - to the German Darwinists - to Hitler - to the gas chambers? Do you know history or are you also as deficient in that subject as you are in science? |
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Oct 18 2009, 10:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Senior Member Posts: 1039 Joined: 19-January 09 Member No.: 102533 |
QUOTE (horizoneast @ Oct 18 2009, 09:08 AM) You are still confused. Do you deny the historical record that draws a connecting line between the the racist naturalism of Darwin - to the German Darwinists - to Hitler - to the gas chambers? Do you know history or are you also as deficient in that subject as you are in science? split to "Darwin & Hitler" |
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Oct 18 2009, 11:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Senior Member Posts: 1039 Joined: 19-January 09 Member No.: 102533 |
QUOTE (horizoneast @ Oct 18 2009, 09:07 AM) LOL - and yet you are a main contributor to the simultaneous discussion of radiocarbon dating, theology, dendrochronology, and the dubious connection between Hitler and Darwin. I would recommend having a private session with the mods if you have criticism of their duties. It is called board protocol. For the record - you have only "organize threads" in your mind - not in reality. Radiometric Age Dating Correlations Darwin & Hitler You're welcome. Lurker |
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Oct 18 2009, 11:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Senior Member Posts: 1450 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Ohio Member No.: 22356 |
QUOTE (Itinerant Lurker @ Oct 18 2009, 06:43 AM) QUOTE (spiritman @ Oct 17 2009, 08:04 PM) First off, your wrong. I haven't copied and pasted anything. What you see in my post is the research on the subject, that I've been doing the last couple of days, using your link you gave me, and several other sources. but I did not copy and paste. Also the fact that you don't know where I got the information from; shows me that you didn't even read the whole article, that you sent me. No wonder your answers are vague and unscientific. Go back and read the whole article from your link, click every link inside that article, then come back and we will have a real conversation on the subject. You need to learn how to cite a source. The article I linked you to has lots of links, if you are quoting from one of them instead of the article itself you need to note this. Use the "insert link" button to the right of the emoticon drop down button above your reply box. Copy and past the url from the page you are citing and click "OK" to post the link. In this case you copy and pasted this: a.1) Trees occasionally produce more than one ring a year. This has to do with how a tree ring is formed. Most conifer tree rings are light-colored on the inside and dark-colored on the outside; this alternation of light and dark is what makes the ring easy to see. The change in color occurs because early in the growing season, the tree produces large cells; as the growing season goes on, drought stress causes the tree to produce smaller cells. Because the cells are smaller, there is proportionally more cell wall material, and this causes the cells to appear darker. If there is a period of renewed rainfall in the later part of the growing season, the tree may start to produce big cells again, and then small cells a bit later on as drought stress resumes. The effect is to produce a second ring, commonly called a false ring. The most striking example of this that I have heard of involved Pinus caribaea growing in (I think) the Dominican Republic under a climate that had very little seasonal variation. These pines would put on a ring every time there was a wet spell, and over a period of about 30 years they averaged 4 to 5 rings a year. B.Trees occasionally go a year or more without producing a ring. It happens because the tree suffers some sort of severe stress. For example, the tree could be struck by lightning, burned by a fire, attacked by insects, injured by human activity, or under stress due to adverse weather (such as extreme cold or a severe drought). It can be very difficult to detect missing rings. from this website: http://www.conifers.org/topics/oldest.htm Now, in and of itself there's nothing wrong with that. But when you epically fail to site your source and then expect others to know where you're pulling text from off the top of their heads you're being kind of ridiculous. Ok, when ever you want to talk some science let me know, instead of this obsession you have with sources and blah blah blah. |
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Oct 18 2009, 11:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Senior Member Posts: 1039 Joined: 19-January 09 Member No.: 102533 |
QUOTE (spiritman @ Oct 19 2009, 12:21 AM) Ok, when ever you want to talk some science let me know, instead of this obsession you have with sources and blah blah blah. Whether you're writing a research paper or having an informal debate, sources are important. Do yourself a favor and learn this lesson early. If you'd like to continue our discussion about radiometric dating I split the discussion to a new thread. Thanks. Lurker |
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Oct 19 2009, 03:44 AM
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Royal Member Group: Worthy Watchman Posts: 20204 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Elgin, Illinois, USA Member No.: 50096 |
QUOTE (Itinerant Lurker @ Oct 18 2009, 05:43 AM) You need to learn how to cite a source. The article I linked you to has lots of links, if you are quoting from one of them instead of the article itself you need to note this. Use the "insert link" button to the right of the emoticon drop down button above your reply box. Copy and past the url from the page you are citing and click "OK" to post the link. Thanks Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth. John 9:41 I Believe For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:1:21 And I'll Cite The Source And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Genesis 1:13 Knowing Anything Else May Be The False Words Of Sinner Men Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 2:8-9 Adding Yet Another Lie In The Long Lists Of Beguiling And Shameful Mocking Of God's Holy Words Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. Mark 8:38 Love, Joe If The Clear Time Stamped Sequence Of Genesis One's Journaling Of God's Six Days Of Creation Offends Your Sense Of "Science", Open Your Lab And "Evolve" A Turnip Into a Baby Boy Two Or Three Times.... If You Can Not Do It, It Is Not Science, You'll Know Science When You See It |
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Oct 19 2009, 09:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Senior Member Posts: 1450 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Ohio Member No.: 22356 |
QUOTE (Itinerant Lurker @ Oct 19 2009, 12:36 AM) QUOTE (spiritman @ Oct 19 2009, 12:21 AM) Ok, when ever you want to talk some science let me know, instead of this obsession you have with sources and blah blah blah. Whether you're writing a research paper or having an informal debate, sources are important. Do yourself a favor and learn this lesson early. If you'd like to continue our discussion about radiometric dating I split the discussion to a new thread. Thanks. Lurker Lurk, I think the real issue is; Your going to use Evolutionary sources, and I'm going to use Creation sources, and I believe that's part of the conflict. |
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Oct 20 2009, 06:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Senior Member Posts: 1039 Joined: 19-January 09 Member No.: 102533 |
QUOTE (spiritman @ Oct 19 2009, 10:22 PM) QUOTE (Itinerant Lurker @ Oct 19 2009, 12:36 AM) QUOTE (spiritman @ Oct 19 2009, 12:21 AM) Ok, when ever you want to talk some science let me know, instead of this obsession you have with sources and blah blah blah. Whether you're writing a research paper or having an informal debate, sources are important. Do yourself a favor and learn this lesson early. If you'd like to continue our discussion about radiometric dating I split the discussion to a new thread. Thanks. Lurker Lurk, I think the real issue is; Your going to use Evolutionary sources, and I'm going to use Creation sources, and I believe that's part of the conflict. Nope, I don't site "evolutionary sources". I cite actual research papers and/or summative articles from reputable websites. I do so so that you can go and check my source, make sure I am using it in context, and so that you can read more on a given subject than my post may contain. The issue is that when you pass off other's work as your own you put zero effort into a post and throw out reams of data and arguments that take multiple replies to address (see Gish Gallop). Another potential issue is the use of quote mines, this is something horizoneast does; take sentences from different pages of research articles and mash them together into a distorted paragraph, then present it as those scientists supporting your argument. You'll notice, for example, that he rarely, if ever, provides anything except the author's name for his quotes which makes it nearly impossible to track down the actual source to see if he's quoting those sources accurately. And with good reason, since pretty much every single one of his quotes is ripped from papers that do not agree with the point he tries to make. The lack of cited sources doesn't just make it harder for others to confirm your argument, it makes it harder for others to take you seriously in an age when posting a hyperlink takes less time than just writing out the biographical information. Hope that helps. Lurker Lurker |
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Oct 20 2009, 06:15 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Member Posts: 547 Joined: 30-September 09 From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 113074 |
QUOTE (Itinerant Lurker @ Oct 20 2009, 07:09 AM) QUOTE (spiritman @ Oct 19 2009, 10:22 PM) QUOTE (Itinerant Lurker @ Oct 19 2009, 12:36 AM) QUOTE (spiritman @ Oct 19 2009, 12:21 AM) Ok, when ever you want to talk some science let me know, instead of this obsession you have with sources and blah blah blah. Whether you're writing a research paper or having an informal debate, sources are important. Do yourself a favor and learn this lesson early. If you'd like to continue our discussion about radiometric dating I split the discussion to a new thread. Thanks. Lurker Lurk, I think the real issue is; Your going to use Evolutionary sources, and I'm going to use Creation sources, and I believe that's part of the conflict. Nope, I don't site "evolutionary sources". I cite actual research papers and/or summative articles from reputable websites. I do so so that you can go and check my source, make sure I am using it in context, and so that you can read more on a given subject than my post may contain. The issue is that when you pass off other's work as your own you put zero effort into a post and throw out reams of data and arguments that take multiple replies to address (see Gish Gallop). Another potential issue is the use of quote mines, this is something horizoneast does; take sentences from different pages of research articles and mash them together into a distorted paragraph, then present it as those scientists supporting your argument. You'll notice, for example, that he rarely, if ever, provides anything except the author's name for his quotes which makes it nearly impossible to track down the actual source to see if he's quoting those sources accurately. And with good reason, since pretty much every single one of his quotes is ripped from papers that do not agree with the point he tries to make. The lack of cited sources doesn't just make it harder for others to confirm your argument, it makes it harder for others to take you seriously in an age when posting a hyperlink takes less time than just writing out the biographical information. Hope that helps. Lurker Lurker So, then, you should have no trouble answering my question in the thread about the common ancestor. I will wait for you over there. |
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