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To the darwinists, why do you care?
ConScience
post Oct 23 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (horizoneast @ Oct 23 2009, 10:21 PM) *
So Nick – let me guess – like Lurker and CS before you - you cannot support the Darwinian myth so you are going to link us to all the atheistic-leaning Darwinian sites your can Google. I thought as much – big talk no action. Next...

Well, I don't see any link from you.
And I'm guessing from your comment that you didn't bother checking it out!
How long have got tonight?
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post Oct 23 2009, 10:36 PM
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The title of the thread is "To the Darwinists - why do you care?"
Why do we care about what?
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post Oct 23 2009, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (ConScience @ Oct 23 2009, 10:31 PM) *
QUOTE (horizoneast @ Oct 23 2009, 10:21 PM) *
So Nick – let me guess – like Lurker and CS before you - you cannot support the Darwinian myth so you are going to link us to all the atheistic-leaning Darwinian sites your can Google. I thought as much – big talk no action. Next...

Well, I don't see any link from you.
And I'm guessing from your comment that you didn't bother checking it out!
How long have got tonight?

I don't really operate via links, Nick. I would prefer to present my case on the thread in question and I am hoping you will do the same. Can you present your evidence on this thread that ‘proves’ theropods evolved into birds? Can you include the mechanisms involved and explain the information transfer required to work this miracle of naturalism. Are you an a-theist or just a skeptic (or something else)?
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post Oct 23 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (ConScience @ Oct 23 2009, 09:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Sir Gareth @ Oct 22 2009, 11:09 AM) *
and yet none of you super smart evolutionist types can produce any concrete evidence to refute creation, or any concrete evidence to support common ancestory.

I am not a super-smart evolutionary type, at all (though I'm learning more, faster than ever before, thanks to encouragement by this board).

Here is a link (PLEASE mods, don't take this one down!)

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

People have asked for evidence PLEASE READ the information, and let me know what you think.



This article explains the scientific method...very well, in fact. It explains how hypotheses and theories are formed and how they are the 'best guess' based on the data available. It does NOT contain one iota of evidence of common descent, it simply explains how the theory came to be and what it is based upon.
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post Oct 23 2009, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (ConScience @ Oct 23 2009, 09:36 PM) *
The title of the thread is "To the Darwinists - why do you care?"
Why do we care about what?




From the OP.....by Sir Gareth.

"Why do you guys care what we believe? You made your point you disagree with us, i respect that you have that right to disagree with us, even to make your opinion known here.
But why are you still arguing with us, if neither of us will believe what the other side believe why not just call it a wash and get on with more important things? Why are you still so desperate for us to believe what you do?"


I wonder about this myself; if you KNOW you're right, why not just enjoy your rightness? Why is there this burning NEED to convince Christians that we are just another animal? That we are not God's creation. I KNOW the answer but....I'd like to hear yours. None of the others ever answered; they never do.
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post Oct 23 2009, 10:47 PM
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Looking back at my posts, I'm being unfair, because I'm getting frustrated.

Let me slow down and ask some questions.

Do you believe that dinosaurs exist?
If so, when?
What happened to them?
Were any of them on the ark?
How were we (that are alive today) built?

Here are my answers to the questions:

Yes, dinosaurs existed.
They died out about 65 million years ago.
There was a great extinction that may have happened over a month, a year, or a millennium.
No, there were none on the ark, because the ark is a bible story intended to represent the essence of truth.
We were built by our DNA.

Let's see if this takes us somewhere instructive (for both of us ... remember, I'm trying to learn here, not to engage in fruitless arguments).

And for goodness' sake, PLEASE let's not poke fun at each other's beliefs - let's try to learn.

PLEASE?

PRETTY PLEASE???

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post Oct 23 2009, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (MorningGlory @ Oct 23 2009, 10:26 PM) *
QUOTE (CSLewis @ Oct 23 2009, 09:11 PM) *
"Most species' DNA is similar. Shows a common Creator who was smart enough to make a template that could be used over and over again. You know about DNA being only four symbols, right?"

wow. God needed a template? Much easier to believe God created the process of evolution-

98 percent of human DNA is made up of introns (nonsensical section of DNA) and only 2percent of DNA actually contains genetic instructions.



God didn't NEED a template; in His infinite wisdom He laid down a template and showed great economy and foresight in doing so. And, of course, He did create evolution for survivability. Not to morph one species into another. If He desires a new species, He will create one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

You should read "finding darwins god" by William Kenneth who is a christian and head or evolutionary biology at Brown university - I don't have time for this - he goes into detail explaining evolution to people like yourself who believe it is a trick of the devil and shows evolutionary evidence - and if you have questions for him you can go take a class or email him -
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post Oct 23 2009, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (ConScience @ Oct 23 2009, 09:47 PM) *
Looking back at my posts, I'm being unfair, because I'm getting frustrated.

Let me slow down and ask some questions.

Do you believe that dinosaurs exist?
If so, when?
What happened to them?
Were any of them on the ark?
How were we (that are alive today) built?

Here are my answers to the questions:

Yes, dinosaurs existed.
They died out about 65 million years ago.
There was a great extinction that may have happened over a month, a year, or a millennium.
No, there were none on the ark, because the ark is a bible story intended to represent the essence of truth.
We were built by our DNA.

Let's see if this takes us somewhere instructive (for both of us ... remember, I'm trying to learn here, not to engage in fruitless arguments).

And for goodness' sake, PLEASE let's not poke fun at each other's beliefs - let's try to learn.

PLEASE?

PRETTY PLEASE???



To whom is this post addressed??
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post Oct 23 2009, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE (CSLewis @ Oct 23 2009, 09:49 PM) *
QUOTE (MorningGlory @ Oct 23 2009, 10:26 PM) *
QUOTE (CSLewis @ Oct 23 2009, 09:11 PM) *
"Most species' DNA is similar. Shows a common Creator who was smart enough to make a template that could be used over and over again. You know about DNA being only four symbols, right?"

wow. God needed a template? Much easier to believe God created the process of evolution-

98 percent of human DNA is made up of introns (nonsensical section of DNA) and only 2percent of DNA actually contains genetic instructions.



God didn't NEED a template; in His infinite wisdom He laid down a template and showed great economy and foresight in doing so. And, of course, He did create evolution for survivability. Not to morph one species into another. If He desires a new species, He will create one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

You should read "finding darwins god" by William Kenneth who is a christian and head or evolutionary biology at Brown university - I don't have time for this - he goes into detail explaining evolution to people like yourself who believe it is a trick of the devil and shows evolutionary evidence - and if you have questions for him you can go take a class or email him -


I don't believe evolution is a trick of the devil; where did that come from? I believe the effort to convince people that we are not created beings, that we are just another animal and not created in God's image, is of satan. And so are the proponents of that effort. Actually, I will probably read that book; I read very quickly and I read a LOT. It will be interesting to see if this man is a Christian or a CINO. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 23 2009, 11:36 PM
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What is a CINO?
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