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[b]This thread was originally started on May 20, 2002

Since the move to the new website has lost the first page to all threads, I am re-doing this one from the start. This will be a long process since I have been tracking the revival of the ancient Roman Empire for about a year now. I will now attempt to start it again from the beginning, by retrieving all of the links from the original thread, but some don't have links because I pasted them before I learned how to post up links to websites, sorry. Some of my commentaries will be lost forever however. Let the journey begin :

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On April 8th, 2002, I shared my opinion as to what a particular verse in the Bible meant. To the best of my knowledge, No one has ever hit upon what this verse means. This verse provides a tiny thumbnail sketch that describes something the coming Anti-christ will do. Is it possible that some in the body of Christ will know who the AC is before his 42 month reign on this earth, that opens the beginning of the tribulation period?? That is one tough question, but I would like to share something that I believe the Lord revealed to me, that could very possibly identify who the AC is. After I said this, I forgot about it, because no one seemed to want to expand on it. Actually I would like to credit my friend Josiah for finding this. I have no idea how he could have remembered something I said over a month earlier, but he did, and it should be credited to him as a great catch. He also provided the links that shed the light on this subject. I will now attempt to cut and paste these things from another forum, to this one. I hope it works. Stand by please.

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Originally posted by Debbie  / On April 7th, 2002   At 10:44 p.m.
How do we know Spain will be head of the EU in 3 months? Fill me in please.
NOte: People who study Biblical prophecy are not necessarily prophets. There is a difference between having the "gift of prophecy" & studying established biblical prophecy.

Hi Debbie,
The Presidents of the EU don't get elected by the people. The way they do it is weird. They rotate every 6 months. So Spain is next in line, and is scheduled to lead the EU for 6 months. But here is another interesting point I found in Daniel:

Dan. 7:25 - "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, (and think to change times and laws): and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

This was my prediction on April 8th, 2002:

Debbie, this is only my opinion, but I believe this may be talking about the AC trying to change the set 6 month rotation that is now in place. I also believe that he will try to change the laws of the nations, into World Law and start the World or Global Court System. Time is getting short Sister, and very exciting too I might add. Keep your eyes on Israel, the flame is getting hotter.

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An updated list of the links that I had originally provided: Just click on the links under there titles.

Solana : End to Rotating EU Presidency :

http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?sele...article_id=6210


Giscard : More important role for Solana :
http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?sele...article_id=6247

Who is Javier Solana and where did he come from :
http://www.weu.int/Solana_en.htm

Plans for new EU with new President and Prime Minister:
http://euobserver.com/index.phtml?mailingl...mpleted/ignored

A battle over who will control the EU :
http://www.euobserve....phtml?aid=7859

ROAD MAP : A seven year agreement?? :
http://fulfilledprop...m/road_map.html

MADRID QUARTET: First meeting between Solana and Powell :
http://www.euobserve...?sid=9&aid=7587

U.S. could actually strengthen Solana's Ten Nation Military Alliance:
http://fulfilledprophecy.com/us_strengthen...n_euforces.html

Is Solana setting a trap for America and Israel? :
http://debka.com/article.php?aid=490

It's better than a movie :
http://fulfilledprop..._than_movie.htm

Solana : Europe to become a Superpower :
http://euobserver.co...?sid=9&aid=7919

Who will lead the EU if an emergency crisis should arise : (read paragraph two)
http://www.euobserve...?sid=9&aid=8586

Solana seeking funds from NATO members to fund his Rapid Reaction Force :
http://euobserver.co...?sid=9&aid=8141

NATO and EU sign partnership agreement :
http://euobserver.co...?sid=9&aid=8787

Another Road Sign? :
http://fulfilledprop...er_roadsign.htm

Is the real battle in the EU over Solana? :
http://fulfilledprop...ver_solana.html

PROPHETIC ROAD SIGNS IN 2002 :
http://fulfilledprop...2002_signs.html

Ten new eastern nations to officially join EU on May 1, 2004 :
http://euobserver.co...sid=9&aid=10948

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Did you notice that the scripture said, "He will think to change the times and laws"?? It didn't say that he would be the one to change them. This was all Solana's idea, and his thought. This to me makes him a very possible candidate to become the future AC dictator that will make Hitler seem like a choir boy. Could it be possible, that the EU will do away with the 6 month rotation, and Solana take hold of the reigns in future days, namely the tribulation?? Fear not folks, if this does happen, it will more than likely take place after the rapture. I can almost imagine this whole thing taking place. The world will be looking for the man who has all the answers in the time of trouble. Come Lord Jesus!!!!!!!

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22.05.2002

Aznar wants more power to the European Council

JOSÉ MARÍA AZNAR - Spanish Prime Minister, here pictured with UK premier Tony Blair, wants an EU President elected by the national governments. (Photo: Spanish EU Presidency, EFE)

The Spanish Premier José María Aznar backed Jacques Chirac and Tony Blair's proposals on having an elected president of the European Council and to increase the Council's powers. In a speech at St. Anthony's College in the University of Oxford, Aznar proposed to have an EU president elected by the national governments, who would have no responsibility in the country of origin. He also proposed to grant to the European Council the capacity to dissolve the European Parliament, on the Commission's initiative.

Press Articles [El Mundo]

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17.06.2002 - 09:02 CET



Seville summit to discuss Council reforms


BARCELONA COUNCIL - Stricter agendas and limited speaking time in European Councils are amongst the proposals put forward by the Spanish Presidency. (Photo: EU Commission)
EU foreign ministers are set to discuss on Monday a crucial report proposing reforms of the Council of ministers and of EU summits, which will be presented to the heads of state of the EU countries later in the week, at the Seville summit. The report, outlining long due reforms to the most opaque EU institution, sparked fear among the members of the Convention on EU future the EU states risk stealing the Convention’s thunder on this crucial debate, just when the Convention tackles general reforms of the EU institutions.

Solana report
The reform proposals were drawn up by the Spanish presidency on the basis of a report drafted by the Council Secretary General Javier Solana, following contributions submitted by personal representatives of the heads of state of the EU countries. Among the proposed changes, it is being suggested to split the General Affairs Council in two parts, reducing the number of Councils to ten, and changing the present 6-month rotatory system of Council Presidency. Some of these proposals are set to be adopted in the Seville European Council.

Proposal for immediate changes to the Council Presidency
According to the report, the functioning of the Presidency could be improved both by practical changes within the current system and a more substantial reform requiring amendment of the Treaties. The Seville European Council, however, will only be able to rule on the first possibility, since measures requiring a revision of the Treaties are to be discussed within the Convention, before ultimately being submitted to the Inter Governmental Conference planned for 2004.

Replacing six-month programmes
The Spanish Presidency listed three immediate changes that could be done to the current six-month rotating EU presidency. One change is to replace the six-month programmes, currently drawn up under the exclusive responsibility of each Presidency, with annual programmes, drawn up jointly by two presidencies. This would reduce the risk of having a programme marked by particular national preoccupations.

Moreover, the continuity between successive Presidencies can be enhanced by having a presidency to take-over its duties early or else extend its term, depending on the nature of the proceedings. It was also proposed to allow the general secretariat of the Council to chair certain working parties in very specialised sectors of an administrative or technical nature, and also appointing the chairmen of certain committees for a period longer than 6 months.

Changes requiring amendment of Treaties
Although the Solana report states that the present system of six-month presidency, will be unable to function with an enlarged union, some member states still maintain that it has not been objectively proven that the current system would pose difficulties if it is maintained. However, the Spanish presidency put forward two proposals to amend the current system: having collective presidencies, either between two or three successive Presidencies, or automatic rotation between five or six-pre-constituted teams of states for a fixed period of two and a half or three years.

Another proposed change is to have a President elected by the heads of states in the European Council, for example from among its former members. It is also proposed that a pre-determined number of members of the European Council should be appointed to assist the President in performing his task. However, small member states oppose this proposal, as they claim the EU president would inevitably be a national of a large EU state, and this would harm the equality between EU states.

Split of GAC
The majority of EU countries are in favour of dividing the current meetings of foreign ministers in two separate formations, one called "General Affairs" and the other "External Relations", one to deal with horizontal coordination of decisions taken by different Council formations, and one deciding on foreign affairs. The Spanish Presidency is also proposing to limit the time of the European Councils for only one day.

Reducing the number of Councils
The report drawn by the Spanish presidency proposes to reduce the number of Council formations to 10, from the present 16. This would mean that several national ministers would be able to participate as full members of the same Council formation. Also, the number of informal Ministerial meetings is set to be limited to 5 per Presidency. These new provisions are expected to be applied by the Danish Presidency, which collaborated in the drafting of this report.

Press Articles Guardian

PDF Document Measures to prepare the Council for Enlargement: Report by the Presidency to the European Council

Written by Sharon Spiteri
Edited by Lisbeth Kirk

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April 1, 1999


From Foe to NATO Chief: Javier Solana Madariaga

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RUSSELS, Belgium -- Javier Solana Madariaga, the Secretary General of NATO, is running the biggest air operation the alliance has carried out in its 50 years of existence. This is the same man who opposed Spain's entry into the organization as a young Socialist opposition politician in the early 1980's.

"I've never planned my life," Solana, a 56-year-old former Foreign Minister, said with a laugh in his office this week as the allied bombing of Yugoslavia entered its second week.

"Life, and the wind of life, have taken me places I never thought I'd be," he mused, in fluent if sometimes heavily accented English. "Look at me: I'm a theoretical physicist!" he said, to prove the point.


He looks the part, dressing casually in NATO's button-down headquarters in black loafers, with rimless glasses, and sporting a sparse, salt-and-pepper beard and mustache (but no gray hair yet).

And indeed he has a Ph.D. in solid-state physics and, after graduate study at the University of Virginia in the 1960's, became a professor of physics at the Complutense University in Madrid in 1974.

But politics has always been his true vocation; he likes to describe himself as a social democrat rather than a socialist.

Born in Madrid on July 14, 1942, under the fascist dictatorship of Generalissimo Francisco Franco, Solana quickly became a troublemaker.

He joined Spain's underground Socialist Party in 1964, a year after being expelled from the university where he later returned to teach, because he had been active in youth organizations opposed to Franco.


"I am a European, and I come from a country that has suffered very much in its history this century from a civil war," Solana said, with images of columns of Albanian civilians fleeing repression in Kosovo on the television screen in his office on the first floor of NATO headquarters, just outside Brussels.

"We have to say very clearly that we cannot live together with people in Europe who behave in this manner at the end of the 20th century," he said, referring to President Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia.

"The great frustration I've had in dealing with the Balkans is a good number of leaders are people with their heads turned to the past, not to the future."

His own head firmly turned to the future, he met Felipe González, a charismatic young Spanish Socialist leader, in the early 1970's, when the party was still a clandestine organization.

When Spain established a constitutional monarchy with an elected legislature after Franco's death in 1975, González led the Socialist opposition out into the open, with Solana at his side.


Until González was elected Prime Minister in 1982, Solana opposed conservative attempts to establish a close military relationship with the United States.

The future leader of NATO opposed the presence of American military bases in Spain and, after a conservative Spanish Government negotiated Spain's entry into the North Atlantic Alliance just before the Socialists' election victory in 1982, he opposed that, too.

Once in power, the Socialists changed their minds. Solana then played an important role in organizing a referendum in 1986 endorsing the participation of Spain in the alliance if it kept its forces out of NATO's integrated military structure.


Solana's summons to Brussels came at the end of 1995, after Willy Claes, the Secretary General at the time, was indicted in a Belgian military-procurement and bribery scandal stemming from his years as a Socialist Party leader. The United States and its European allies clashed over two other candidates, and Solana was the compromise.

As Secretary General, Solana has presided over the post-cold-war alliance transformation that had been prepared by his two immediate predecessors, Claes and the late Manfred Wörner of Germany.

So he presided over the political decisions NATO made to send 60,000 peacekeepers to Bosnia, just after he took office, and to take in three formerly Communist countries, the Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary, at a summit meeting in 1997.

Now Solana presides over daily and often contentious meetings of the 19-member North Atlantic Council to oversee the bombing campaign.


The Council gave him authority at the end of January to decide, after consulting with President Clinton and other allied leaders, to give the go-ahead to NATO's top military commander, Gen. Wesley K. Clark of the United States.

He took that step on March 23.

Now his main job, another military officer said, is to keep the allies in line with diplomacy and an easygoing, informal backslapping style that many NATO diplomats credit with maintaining the fragile consensus.

If the bombing eventually succeeds in bringing peace to Kosovo, Solana will be a hero in Spain, where he could run for Prime Minister in elections that are to be held by March 2000. If it fails, he will be among the first political casualties, close behind the alliance's relationship with Moscow that he has tried to nurture despite Russia's opposition to the bombing.

"We may fail, or not achieve 100 percent," he said with a shrug.

"But we have shown we have the will to try."

His family life, he conceded two years ago, has suffered from his work; his wife, Concepción Giménez, whom he met as a student in the United States, lives in Madrid, where she works, with their daughter, Vega, and son, Diego, while Solana commutes every weekend or two from Brussels. But now, he said, he lives mainly in his office.

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26.06.2002 - 09:36 CET



Muted EU response to US proposal to replace Arafat


JAVIER SOLANA - Secretary General of the Council expressed the EU leaders' readiness to help the Palestinians organise free and fair elections. (Photo: Spanish EU Presidency)
The Secretary General of the Council Javier Solana welcomed the US statement on the Middle East, particularly on the perspectives of two States living side by side in peace and security. However, whilst President Bush made a clear call on Monday for the removal of the Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat, as the price of support for a future Palestinian state, Javier Solana fell short of making this statement, saying only that the Palestinians should have fair elections in order to be able to choose their leaders. The EU, so far, has always recognised Yasser Arafat as the elected leader of the Palestinian people.

In his statements, the Secretary General of the Council, Javier Solana, expressed the EU leaders' readiness to help the Palestinians organise free and fair elections, giving them an opportunity to choose their leaders. "We should deploy all political efforts to secure the right conditions for holding democratic elections. Israeli co-operation will be of essence to achieve this end," Mr Solana said.

UK refused to back US call for Arafat's removal
Mr Solana's position is shared by the external relations commissioner, Chris Patten, who agreed on the same fundamental objectives; that of having an end to terrorism and occupation and having an early international conference, as agreed by the Quartet. Also, the UK has refused to back US President George Bush's demand for the removal of Yasser Arafat as the price for a future Palestinian state. UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw both said it was up to the Palestinian people to choose their own leader.

This item is set to be the matter of discussion in private talks on Wednesday, during the G8 summit in Canada, which could mark the first rift between UK and US since 11 September, BBC said.

Bush: Peace requires a new and different Palestinian leadership
Javier Solana, who is in regular contact with the US over the Middle East issue, conducted a telephone conversation with US State secretary Colin Powell before US president George Bush held his speech on Monday.

Mr Bush said "Peace requires a new and different Palestinian leadership, so that a Palestinian state can be born. And when the Palestinian people have new leaders, new institutions and new security arrangements with their neighbors, the United States of America will support the creation of a Palestinian state whose borders and certain aspects of its sovereignty will be provisional until resolved as part of a final settlement in the Middle East."

Press Articles Le Monde BBC Berlingske Tidende Spiegel Telegraph

Speech President Bush Calls for New Palestinian Leadership

Statement Javier Solana welcomes the renewed engagement of the US to overcome the Middle East Crisis

Written by Sharon Spiteri
Edited by Lisbeth Kirk, Honor Mahony

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16.07.2002 - 09:11 CET



Prodi: Commission's head should be EU president


ROMANO PRODI - president of the European Commission argues that dispersal of effort must be avoided, and therefore the EU should not have too many presidents. "On grounds of democracy and efficiency, the best solution could be for the EU and Commission presidents to be one and the same," he said. (Photo: EU Commission)
The president of the European Commission Romano Prodi pleads for the Commission’s head to be the future president of the EU, rejecting the call by leading EU heads of state to elect an EU president at the head of the Council. In his contribution to a seminar on “A constitution for the future of Europe” in Milan, Mr Prodi said on Monday that an “EU president chosen by the governments and voted on by Parliament or elected in some other way, with a five-year term of office," would be a good idea, provided the EU and Commission presidents were one and the same.

The Commission’s president has fired in Milan his first shot in the battle between two visions of Europe, opposing leaders of the UK, France and Spain, in favour of an EU president at the head of the Council and more powers for the EU states, and leaders of small countries, backing a powerful Commission.

Mr Prodi argues that dispersal of effort must be avoided, and therefore the EU should not have too many presidents.

Constitutional Treaty necessary
The Commission’s president also pleaded, in Milan, for a Constitutional Treaty to set out the EU's essential principles and tasks, the institutions in charge of carrying out these tasks, and the citizens' rights in terms of participation and freedoms. The Constitutional Treaty will, in Mr Prodi’s views, govern a Union of states and peoples. He advocates some arrangements to involve citizens in the ratification of the new Treaty, as at present people play no role in this process.

Present Union biased in favour of states
Mr Prodi notes that as things stand, the Union of states and peoples is totally biased in favour of states. “To re-establish a balance,” he said, “the peoples must be given the chance to take part in the process of laying the EU's new foundations. Popular involvement is justified because this will bolster the legitimacy of the future constitutional text and, more generally, the Union based on it. This would set in motion a process that could ultimately lead to the recognition of EU sovereignty.”

Supranational democracy does not mean superstate
The president of the Commission warns that a supranational European democracy cannot be built without an informed popular debate on the major issues and choices the EU is facing. He is adamant the Convention on EU future and the Intergovernmental Conference that will subsequently analyse the draft put forward by the Convention must lay the foundations of a genuine supranational democracy. He underlined that building a democratic EU does not mean building a superstate, it just means giving a new dimension to the concept of citizenship.

EU citizenship important for immigrants' integration
Mr Prodi claims EU citizenship can be a powerful factor in the social integration of legal immigrants into the European Union, as it could lessen the tension between laws on nationality and citizenship and immigration. On this subject, he condemned the fact that recently the issue of security has been increasingly linked to immigration.

The Commission’s president proposes that the future constitutional Treaty, prepared by the Convention on EU future, be broken down into two sections: a constitutional section setting out the constitutional principles and the Charter of Fundamental Rights, and a second section setting out the practical procedures, which can be more easily amended.

Speech Romano Prodi President of the European Commission « A constitution for the future of Europe »

Written by Daniela Spinant
Edited by Honor Mahony

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Israel Today - October 7, 2002 - 1 Heshvan, 5763

Israeli tanks and armored vehicles, backed by helicopters, raided the densely populated town of Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip overnight. Twelve Palestinians were killed, 10 of them when an Israeli helicopter fired a missile into a crowd. More than 100 people were wounded, 25 seriously. The army says a group of gunmen opened fire at troops as they withdrew, and the helicopter targeted them. “They fired a lot and threw grenades. There was a battle there," Gaza commander Brigadier General Yisrael Ziff told Israel Radio. "The helicopter aimed at this armed group and hit them."

But the Palestinians claim that many people took to the streets to inspect the damage, assuming that the army had left. And then the missile struck. They say that “all” the dead were civilians, a difficult to claim to verify considering that it`s based solely on Palestinian accounts, and the Palestinians have been known to lie. In fact, gunmen and terrorists who are not wearing uniforms are usually identified as civilians. Palestinian Cabinet Minister Saeb Erekat described the attack as “a war crime and a massacre” and appealed for international protection. However, he did not explain what armed militants are doing in the heart of a heavily populated civilian area. In most countries, that`s illegal.

Israel said that terrorists will not be allowed to hide behind civilians. Deputy Defense Minister Weizman Shiri said he was sorry if civilians were hurt. "But what can we do?" Shiri told Army Radio. "It`s war." Government spokesman Ra`anan Gissin added: "We try to keep civilian casualties to a minimum, but we can`t say that because there are civilians there, we will not take action against the terrorists."

The Islamic terrorist group Hamas, which was the target of the operation, promised revenge. "Everyone should know that as our people were not safe in Khan Younis, so Israelis will not be safe in Tel Aviv,” said Abdel Aziz Rantisi, a leading Hamas official. “We will strike everywhere." Other Palestinian terrorist groups are also vowing to step up attacks.

The bloodshed is overshadowing a peace mission by European Union Foreign Policy Chief Javier Solana. Solana meets today with Yasser Arafat, the highest-ranking official to visit the Palestinian leader`s ruined headquarters in Ramallah since Israel ended a 10-day siege there last week. Israeli officials tried to discourage Solana from meeting Arafat, saying he`s not a partner for peace.