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    • Result of divisions between Christians.
      By Davida · Posted
      When people teach or preach heresy,and false doctrine they aren't a part of the brethren but have chosen to be outside of it. God's love is a sanctifying love. He does not argue with those that oppose His Word he leaves them to their delusion and folly or He can lead them amongst some Evangelicals that know the Holy scripture and who will attempt to share the Truth with them.  
    • Confused about prophecy
      By simplejeff · Posted
      there is a lot more false prophesy, in churches, on tv, on the internet , than every before. it is probably highly unlikely he has ever in his life heard true prophecy or even true and accurate  teaching  of Scripture.
    • True Gospel opposed by world church. Truth wins.
      By Esther4:14 · Posted
      Therese,  Well if you want to be technical we should call it the Byzantium empire, and I think that the rest of the information provided reflects the works of the enemy towards humanity in general.  One of the things that I was most inspired by when studying history, is the employment in gaining scholarship that was present in history.  The problem with our education today is not that the history that we are taught is a myth, but that we are not disciplined to study history the way someone like Leonardo Da Vinci was or John Milton, or William Tyndale, or Geoffery Chaucer.  People who spent their whole lives pursuing knowledge.  The problem we have is that people do not pursue knowledge in this way.   The "myth" of referring to the world as the dark ages is because the Catholic church refused to let the church read the scriptures and would not translate them into a language where they could participate in studying science or anything else.  Therefore, they did not preserve anything.  They withheld it from the people.  However, because some people devoted their lives to scholarship, they were able to learn Latin and free people from their dependence on what the Catholic church told them through reading the scriptures themselves.   I realize that you have reasons for believing in Catholic doctrine.  However, there have been many Christians writers throughout history who truly edify the church with their work.  I would suggest branching out to reading some of their work.  I am a particular fan of John Milton's Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained; as well as John Bunyan's Grace Abounding to the Chief of Sinners.  I think they could greatly benefit your pursuit of application of scripture.  
    • Confused about prophecy
      By bopeep1909 · Posted
       How can a person be confused about prophecy when they do not even believe in God.That is like putting the horse before the buggy.
    • True Gospel opposed by world church. Truth wins.
      By thereselittleflower · Posted
      And yet you demonstrate you don't understand the very words you quote.   The words of Jesus: Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.   Sounds like the words you quote above are right in line with the words of Jesus.     And then you demonstrate you have no idea what the words the Catholic Church means when you end your post with such a false statement as that. You have not demonstrated you understand what   "Let him be anathema" means at all. Your definition of "Let him be anathema" is false, wrong to the core.     It has nothing to do with non-catholics at all.  It has nothing to do with a determination of one's final state after death.  Please stop spreading false information, lies and rumors.   As I have said to you before Ezra, it would be good for you to learn what the Catholic Church actually is, what She actually teaches before you go about criticizing words you don't understand.  
    • Result of divisions between Christians.
      By simplejeff · Posted
      WHEN THEY RECOVER AFTER REPENTING.  Until then ,  Scripture demands putting them out , yes,like tax collectors still participating in sin ....  Since we do not have power to put them out,  we will keep exposing their error as  Yahweh directs in HIS WORD,  until such time as they either repent or are silenced by Yahweh (soon).   Acts 16:18Amplified Bible (AMP) 18 And she did this for many days. Then Paul, being sorely annoyed and worn out, turned and said to the spirit within her, I charge you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her! And it came out that very [a]moment. Footnotes: Acts 16:18 James Moulton and George Milligan, The Vocabulary.Amplified Bible (AMP)Copyright © 1954, 1958, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1987 by The Lockman Foundation
    • Trump knocks Ben Carson
      By bopeep1909 · Posted
      I think Carson can really wipe the floors with Trump on his integrity.
    • salvation
      By Omegaman 3.0 · Posted
      The way the forums are set up, some topics, and here I am referring to the seeker's lounge, require approval for posts to be displayed. I am mentioning this, because the moderating staff is small, and  when you post here, it takes time for us to read and approve posts, time that could be used for other things. Since this topic has been answered already in this thread and in many others, I am not going to be approving any more posts here on this specific thread, others administrators may choose to do so. I suggest if you feel you just have to make your opinion known, that you do so in another thread on the same topic. Consider this, before you spend a lot of time crafting a response to the topic which might not get approved - I hate to see any of you making a lot of work only to see that work thwarted by a failure for it to be approved.
    • True Gospel opposed by world church. Truth wins.
      By thereselittleflower · Posted
        My dear sister - I hope you will find this helpful.  The dark ages is a misnomer.   The middle ages is the correct term.  They would have been dark indeed if the Catholic Church did not preserve and encourage the sciences, art, culture. There is much that passes as history which is actually psuedo history, tales and myths which have been so oft repeated they are simply accepted as true and people don't question it. This is one such example. Even atheists recognize the "dark ages caused by the Catholic Church" is nothing more than myth: So, alongside the regular airings of the hoary old myth that the Bible was collated at the Council of Nicea, the tedious internet-based "Jesus never existed!" nonsense, or otherwise intelligent people spouting pseudo historical claims that would make even Dan Brown snort in derision, the myth that the Catholic Church caused the Dark Ages and the Medieval Period was a scientific wasteland is regularly wheeled, creaking, into the sunlight for another trundle around the arena. The myth goes that the Greeks and Romans were wise and rational types who loved science and were on the brink of doing all kinds of marvelous things (inventing full-scale steam engines is one example that is usually, rather fancifully, invoked) until Christianity came along. Christianity then banned all learning and rational thought and ushered in the Dark Ages. Then an iron-fisted theocracy, backed by a Gestapo-style Inquisition, prevented any science or questioning inquiry from happening until Leonardo da Vinci invented intelligence and the wondrous Renaissance saved us all from Medieval darkness. The Origin of the Myths How the myths that led to the creation of "The Most Wrong Thing On the Internet Ever" is well documented in several recent books on the the history of science.  . But Hannam wisely tackles it in the opening pages of his book, since it would be likely to form the basis for many general readers to be suspicious of the idea of a Medieval foundation for modern science. A festering melange of Enlightenment bigotry, Protestant papism-bashing, French anti-clericism, and Classicist snobbery have all combined to make the Medieval period a by-word for backwardness, superstition and primitivism, and the opposite of everything the average person associates with science and reason. Hannam sketches how polemicists like Thomas Huxley, John William Draper, and Andrew Dickson White, all with their own anti-Christian axes to grind, managed to shape the still current idea that the Middle Ages was devoid of science and reason. And how it was not until real historians bothered to question the polemicists through the work of early pioneers in the field like Pierre Duhem, Lynn Thorndike, and the author of my astrolabe book, Robert T. Gunther, that the distortions of the axe-grinders began to be corrected by proper, unbiased research. That work has now been completed by the current crop of modern historians of science like David C. Lindberg, Ronald Numbers, and Edward Grant. In the academic sphere, at least, the "Conflict Thesis" of a historical war between science and theology has been long since overturned. It is very odd that so many of my fellow atheists cling so desperately to a long-dead position that was only ever upheld by amateur Nineteenth Century polemicists and not the careful research of recent, objective, peer-reviewed historians. This is strange behavior for people who like to label themselves "rationalists". ... Hannam also gives an excellent precis of the Twelfth Century Renaissance which, contrary to popular perception and to "the Myth", was the real period in which ancient learning flooded back into western Europe. Far from being resisted by the Church, it was churchmen who sought this knowledge out among the Muslims and Jews of Spain and Sicily. And far from being resisted or banned by the Church, it was embraced and formed the basis of the syllabus in that other great Medieval contribution to the world: the universities that were starting to appear across Christendom. God and Reason  
      The enshrining of reason at the heart of inquiry, combined with the influx of "new" Greek and Arabic learning, launched a veritable explosion of intellectual activity in Europe from the Twelfth Century onwards. It was as though the sudden stimulus of new perspectives and new ways of looking at the world fell on the fertile soil of a Europe that was, for the first time in centuries, relatively peaceful, prosperous, outward-looking, and genuinely curious. This is not to say that more conservative and reactionary forces did not have misgivings about some of the new areas of inquiry, especially in relation to how philosophy and speculation about the natural world and the cosmos could affect accepted theology. Hannam is careful not to pretend that there was no resistance to the flowering of the new thinking and inquiry but, unlike the perpetuators of "the Myth", he gives that resistance due consideration rather than pretending it was the whole story. In fact, the conservatives and reactionaries' efforts were usually rear-guard actions and were in almost every case totally unsuccessful in curtailing the inevitable flood of ideas that began to flow from the universities. Once it began, it was effectively unstoppable.               http://www.strangenotions.com/gods-philosophers/     The Myth: They call it the Dark Ages for a reason. Any scientist who dared to actually study the universe would be shut down by the Catholic church, which thought all that bullshit was immoral and that the Bible was all the learnin' anybody could possibly need. They even thought the Earth was flat, for crying out loud. The Reality: Aside from the fact that, as we've already explained, most people in the Middle Ages did not think the Earth was flat, the church wasn't responsible for killing science -- to the contrary, it was largely responsible for saving it. After the barbarians invaded Europe and Rome went the way of the dinosaurs, the Catholic church was the last remaining aspect of Roman culture in Western Europe. The church went about setting up monasteries across Europe, and along with the monks came the monks' massive libraries. Monks were just about the only educated people in the early Middle Ages, and pretty much everything we know about this entire time period was written by them. As time went on, the church stepped it up a notch and started establishing universities to foster the preservation of knowledge. You may have heard of a few of them: Oxford, Cambridge, and the University of Paris (not to mention pretty much every other top school in Europe). At these universities, students studied more than most college kids do today, with an average bachelor's degree taking up to seven years to earn, and a master's or doctorate taking several more. The universities were also big on translation, having successfully translated into Latin guys like Aristotle and Plato, which effectively made the Renaissance possible. All of this despite the fact that beer bong technology was still in its infancy. Around the same time as universities were popping up all over Europe, the Crusades were bringing Europeans into contact with advanced Muslim ideas of science and technology. Ideas like the compass and the astrolabe came to the West via Muslim Spain and came in handy during the later Age of Exploration. Italian merchants came back from trading in North Africa and gave us another innovation: Arabic numerals. Medicine also made massive advances thanks to the university system. Contrary to popular belief, dissection of corpses was actually fine and dandy with the church, and medieval universities often did it in the basement (OK, so maybe it wasn't totally fine and dandy). By the 14th century, there were functional hospitals, and doctors had learned how to use antiseptic when lopping off people's body parts.   You see, popular history is often myth repeated often enough people accept it as true. There was no such thing as a dark age.   And the Council of Nicea was not the dawn of the Catholic Church.   This is another of those myths so often repeated it has become defacto truth for some. Have you studied what the Council of Nicea was, and who it involved, and why it was convened?              
    • At a Berlin church, Muslim refugees converting in droves
      By OldSchool2 · Posted
      Wait till their relatives back home in Iran and Pakistan find out -- under sharia, a male Muslim who leaves Islam is under a death sentence that knows no national boundaries.
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