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    • Please answer with scripture.Could satans fall have been because he was the first to eat of the tree of good and evil?
      By 1to3 · Posted
      l Quote by enoob57logically Lucifer being the originator of evil through lie (self deception) became the furrow for the tree... Love, Steven                                                          ------------------------------------------------------------ So from this I gather that you are saying that God created the tree of good and evil in Eden because of satan falling to pride ? This would imply that satan fell before the seventh day day of creation when all was created and good without sin. So then if the tree in the garden of Eden was created in the creation time before the seventh day because of Lucifer, then Lucifer fell before the seventh day creation  and was allowed to roam nevertheless in paradise, that would imply that sin was active on some level in paradise by satan and by the tree of Good and evil  before Adam and Eve were even created.  That would mean that evil existed in Eden before the fall of Eve and Adam, just it was not yet fully activated but still in its beginning phase with satan and the tree. Then all was never fully good in paradise, evil was there but just more dormant than active.   To me, it makes more sense that all was fully good in paradise on the seventh day. angels had the right of way to roam on earth in a good way, and all creation was at peace with itself and could have been eternal. It is after I believe the creation of Adam that Lucifer got jealous and insecure and pride welled up in him to see that God gave Adam free reign of the earth. And after the creation of jealousy in the soul of Lucifer happened, so did the nature of pride stem forth. And from pride comes death, separation from God. Hence Lucifer/satan was bound on earth  separated from God forever and a second Adam had to come forth (Christ Jesus) to redeem man back from satan's snare of pride that is now a part of man.   
    • Why did God create evil?
      By Davida · Posted
      no , um....Biblical-- not just opinion. Question: "Why does Isaiah 45:7 say that God created evil?"

      Answer: Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

      (2) The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted rebellion against Him.
         
    • Please answer with scripture.Could satans fall have been because he was the first to eat of the tree of good and evil?
      By JohnD · Posted
      Do you believe the description in Ezekiel 28 was of Eden or another place (spirit realm / heaven)?    
    • Trump University
      By Painted Smile · Posted
      There is an old saying,  where there is smoke there is fire.
    • Donald Trump calling Anthony Weiner a 'perv'
      By other one · Posted
      out of thousands and thousands of deals he has made, he used the bankruptcy laws four times....     sounds like a fairly successful guy to me.     Do you know what kind of bankruptcy he filed...   do you know why he filed it and whether or not it was something he purchased that was in trouble or something he made that didn't work out.     Did he file personal bankruptcy or was it one of his projects, or businesses?   I think you will find that they are all in New Jersey and are tied to the casino business that has completely fallen apart in that part of the country.....   Our Native American population has had a huge part in that.      I would say that Trump was intelligent enough to get out of the place before the entire industry fell....   And I think you will find that most if not all were restructuring chapter 11 files which lets a company stay in business while they get their finances together. I don't see that as a colossal problem for a setting president to have so vote Trump 2016.  
    • Trump University
      By Davida · Posted
      I think this means nothing until it goes to court and gets resolved. It's just speculation on either side.
    • The things in the Bible ain't necessarily so.....
      By Painted Smile · Posted
      I would have to agree with Shiloh on this one.  If three eye witnesses gave the exact same account you can be assured they are false.   People see the same thing in a different manner and focus on what is important to them. If you and I described an event that included colors we would almost assuredly tell a different story as I am severely color blind.
    • Why did God create evil?
      By JohnD · Posted
      Um... that's your opinion. I will grant that.  But the point I made was biblical. Furthermore evil is the consequence / result of men and angels choosing or doing that which is contrary to God's will.  For there to have even been a choice there had to be the opportunity to choose that which is contrary to God's will. And would that have even been possible unless God made it so? Within the confines of our vast limitations, God has  granted men and angels an amount of sovereignty. Anyway you look at it Isaiah 45:7 closes every mouth (including yours and including mine).
    • Is it just me...
      By AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken · Posted
      ...me!
    • UK: Local Muslims Persecute Converts from Islam
      By Qnts2 · Posted
      A quote from the article: 'Unfortunately, in the UK converts from Islam get little help from the police, local authorities or even other Christians.' Sometimes Jewish people who come to believe in Jesus experience family rejection and rejection by the Jewish community. It used to be more common but there are a few Jewish believers who get kicked out of their homes. I met one lady who was Jewish and deaf, and accepted Jesus. Her parents attempted to have her declared incompetent. They actually went to a court to have her committed. The Jewish believing community stood by her and helped with the funds for an attorney.  She won her case after an appeal to a higher court. One time, I was speaking to a college age Muslim who lived near Bethlehem about Jesus. I mentioned the conversation to a pastor who informed me that it might be better if I stop speaking to him, since his parents might take his life if he accepts Jesus. In my view, it is better to accept Jesus and lose one's life. But, the problem is, if a person believes on Jesus and might face persecution, the Christian church needs to be prepared to step in and offer assistance.  
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