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    • Isn't there something wrong with mankind?
      By thereselittleflower · Posted
            I completely agree all scripture must agree with other scripture in the entire word of God. However, logically speaking,  this does not mean that we individually, being fallible human beings prone to error, will interpret scripture correctly.   And this is where the belief that scripture alone is our authority fails as all it leaves us with then are fallible prone to error interpretations.   This is why christians, who use this approach, cannot agree on how we are saved. This is why christians, who use this approach, cannot agree on whether or not we are once saved always saved or can lose our salvation. This is why christians, who use this approach, cannot agree on the importance or necessity of baptism. This is why christians, who use this approach, cannot agree on the Lord's Supper, communion. And the list goes on.   And each one believes they are right, when it is logically obvious all the different beliefs cannot be right, for God does not contradict Himself. So obviously many christians are wrong, but they have no clue they are wrong and they base their claims to correct belief on the same approach you do for yours.                        
    • The Lord Jesus Christ
      By enoob57 · Posted
      Do you really think that in a place where all the needs God has made us to need, yet removes all supply to the individual need: hunger-food, thirst-water; exhaustion-rest;
      companionship-others; value-duties; love-Jesus; etc. etc. so that  the increase with time so also the need... then taking all this and being within a flame of fire with no
      escape? I see only a desperation of seeking end to that which torments and that would be only one more need never to be fulfilled!  Love, Steven
    • 2 weeks
      By FresnoJoe · Posted
      Hallelujah~!
    • who do you say is the Restrainer
      By FresnoJoe · Posted
      Beloved, Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessnessb is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-11 (ESV) You Are Way They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. “And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves, people fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world. For the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” Luke 21:24-27 (ESV) Too Fast For I will return again to my place, until they acknowledge their guilt and seek my face, and in their distress earnestly seek me. Hosea 5:15 (ESV) Me Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? Romans 11:13-15
    • Isn't there something wrong with mankind?
      By thereselittleflower · Posted
      Why do you believe the apostles were fallible teachers? If they were fallible teachers, then how can you trust anything they taught in the New Testament?    Jesus said, as you indicated above,  "if ye continue in my word" And again, Paul commands us to hold fast to what was taught verbally as well as what was in writing. How can we continue in his word if we are not doing as Paul commanded and holding fast to ALL of what the Apostles taught verbally - orally - as well as in writing?      
    • Isn't there something wrong with mankind?
      By thereselittleflower · Posted
      What is it leading way from exactly enoob?
    • Isn't there something wrong with mankind?
      By enoob57 · Posted
      hermeneutic process upon which we dig out the objective foundation of written format into a subjective life performance
      must pass through this hermeneutic-> 'all Scripture must and will agree with other Scripture in the entire Word of God' ...
      This concern you have with this passage is alleviated by the promise of God to believers:
        John 8:31-32 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
      KJV  
    • Isn't there something wrong with mankind?
      By thereselittleflower · Posted
        Well, you need more than mere assertions something is true.  There must be valid proof it is true. Where is that proof? Without anything explicit, logically speaking then all one is left with is conjecture and assumption that scripture is to be the christian's sole authority, for then it becomes a matter of personal fallible interpretation of scripture.        
    • Isn't there something wrong with mankind?
      By thereselittleflower · Posted
      Shiloh when you are ready to actually deal with the arguments and evidence i present in a logical, reasonable manner, let me know.         
    • Isn't there something wrong with mankind?
      By thereselittleflower · Posted
      That is incorrect.     As I demonstrated from Strongs definitions, it means EXPLANATION - this is indeed interpretation. Again:   ἐπίλυσις epílysis, ep-il'-oo-sis; from G1956; explanation, i.e. application:—interpretation.   HELPS Word-studies  1955 epílysis (from 1909 /epí, "on, fitting" and 3089 /lýō, "to loose") – properly, unloosing (unpacking) in an apt (appropriate) manner, i.e. that builds on sound hermeneutical principles (note the epi, "upon"). 1955 /epílysis ("sound interpretation") only occurs in 2 Pet 1:20 and refers to "untying interpretation knots" to discern the true meaning of future Bible prophecy. [1956 (epilýō) is used throughout antiquity of solving problems, i.e. "getting to the bottom of things," "unraveling" the issue (see DNTT, 1, 156).]     NAS Exhaustive ConcordanceWord Origin
      from epiluó
      Definition
      a release, an interpretation
      NASB Translation
      interpretation (1).  
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