Shalom, Joseph (Firestormx) And, “in everything [you] have ever read,” when have you ever read anything from a Jewish point of view? Look, I can understand why Christians would read Christian books, but if you want to understand the HEBREW behind a verse, particularly the grammar, you MUST read it from a point of view that understands Hebrew, namely, to know which words are which parts of speech in the language. We DON’T just have a string of nouns all put together! IF they were just a group of names or proper nouns put together, then they would ALL be in the construct state and you would have to put an “of” between them ALL! IF they were all INTENDED to be a group of names or proper nouns listed for the Messiah, they would have had the Hebrew letter vav in front of them, most often translated as “and." If it had been so written, it would have read, “His name shall be called Wonderful(, and) Counsellor, and the Mighty God, and the Everlasting Father, and the Prince of Peace,” in the KJV, since the KJV usually tried to translate the Hebrew text word for word into English. Remember how I told you that we are not currently “preaching the gospel of the Kingdom?” Look at the NEXT verse: Isaiah 9:6-7 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. KJV THAT is the gospel of the Kingdom; THAT is the good news about the Kingdom! To say that Yeshua` is GOD’S “miracle"; the eternal Father’s "Prince of Peace” is NOT blasphemy! Again, “to blaspheme” is “to belittle.” How is it belittling God to believe what He said about His OWN SON?! If anything, it belittles God to CHANGE what He said about His SON! If the exact distance of our planet from the sun is 93,000,000 miles, to say the distance is 90,000,000 miles is obviously wrong because it is too short. HOWEVER, to say the distance is 100,000,000 miles is equally wrong because it is too long! You all accuse me of being wrong - being “blasphemous” by belittling Yeshua` the Son of God - because I make the Son of God less than God, His Father. I say that you are being wrong - being “blasphemous” by belittling God the Father - because you make the Son of God MORE than He is, indeed, making Him equal to His Father! Pay close attention, VERY close attention, to the following: Luke 12:10 10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost (Spirit) it shall not be forgiven. KJV So, which is worse? THINK ABOUT IT! Now, you also said, “To deny Christ being God is to nullify the Crucifixion. ... If Jesus was/is not God then he wasn't/isn't worthy to die for our sin, the Crucifixion was in vain and we are all still in our sin.” Really? Says whom? So, it’s not enough for Him to be the Son of God, as the Scriptures say? (And, the Scriptures NEVER called Him “God the Son.”) It’s not enough that He was called, “the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world?” (John 1:29) It’s not enough for God to say, “This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased?” (Matt. 3:17; 17:5; Mark 1:11; 9:7; Luke 3:22; 9:35; 2 Pet. 1:17) What about Revelation 5? Revelation 5:5-10 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. 6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. KJV He had to be the spotless, sinless Lamb of God, but that doesn’t mean that He therefore must be God! One who is God is One who is sinless, but is it true that One who is sinless must be the One who is God? If A-->B, is it true that B-->A? NO! The converse is not necessarily true! One can say the contrapositive is true, namely, ~B-->~A, or the One who is NOT sinless is the One who is NOT God, but neither the converse nor the inverse (One who is NOT God is One who is NOT sinless). Remember 2 Corinthians 5: 2 Corinthians 5:18-21 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ (who has exchanged places with us through Yeshua` the Messiah), and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation (the service of exchanging places); 19 To wit, that God was in Christ (the Messiah), reconciling the world unto himself (exchanging places with the world), not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation (the subject of exchanging places). 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ (the Messiah), as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead (on the Messiah’s behalf), be ye reconciled to God (exchange places with God). 21 For he (God) hath made him (the Messiah) to be sin for us, who (the Messiah) knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him (the Messiah). KJV That’s how God’s justification of an individual works. Modern “Christianity” MAY INDEED “revolve around the deity of Christ.” But, SHOULD IT?! I say, based on God’s Word, “NO!" Yeshua` did not have to be God to be the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world any more than the innocent animals whose blood was shed in sacrifice had to be God! As the SON of God, He was far more worthy than the innocent animals which were sacrificed and sufficient for a year. You’re coming to conclusions that aren’t supported in Scripture. Look at Hebrews 10: Hebrews 10:1-22 10 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, 16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. 19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21 And having an high priest over the house of God; 22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. KJV Show me where it says Yeshua` must be God to offer that one sacrifice for sins! BTW, it’s not the “cross” that was so important; it was the “BLOOD” that was shed for us that took away our sins. And, it’s the RESURRECTION of which it is said,... 1 Corinthians 15:12-17 12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. 16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. KJV The resurrection was GOD’S work on behalf of His Son that makes the difference. It was GOD who raised up the Messiah!
Bopeep, Since your source is tainted -- CNN -- what do you expect? CNN and all of the left-liberal media networks are committed to attacking Trump at every opportunity even though he has some original and refreshing ideas. Do you recall any of them ever saying anything negative about Barack Obama, even though he has been running this country into the ground for the past eight years? But did you notice the comment about the Bible? He gets thumbs up on that every time he mentions that it is his favorite book, and the anti-Christian media hate that. As any objective person can see, this entire article is biased, slanted, and more propaganda than information. For those who want a saner approach to reportage of Trump, check Breitbart News, Newsmax, and the Rush Limbaugh show. Here's something to balance the nonsense with some sense: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/09/02/the_trump_movement_isn_t_about_conservatism_it_s_about_americanism
Something which we all should take into account is that the Reformers were formerly Roman Catholics, and their primary focus was Gospel Truth, not Eschatology. They all had come under the sway of Augustine in regards to the Millennium. So today all Reformed Churches simply go along with this teaching rather than examine Scripture afresh. There is no doubt that Luther was a Reformer and made a major contribution to the Reformation. What he (and most Reformers) failed to do is go back to the New Testament pattern altogether and abandon sacramental theology, infant baptism etc. Indeed, the Reformers persecuted and killed the Anabaptists and the Baptists because they opposed infant baptism. At the same time the Reformers generally believed that the Pope was the literal Antichrist. http://www.the-bible-antichrist.com/what-did-reformers-believe.html. While this was not literally true as we understand it, the tendencies were certainly there.
This was written a long time before the final antichrist is revealed :: >> breathed by Yahweh, through His called and chosen man >> 1 John 2:18King James Version (KJV) 18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. King James Version (KJV) by Public Domain AMPBoys (lads), it is the last time (hour, the end of this age). And as you have heard that the antichrist [he who will oppose Christ in the guise of Christ] is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen, which confirms our belief that it is the final (the end) time. TLB Dear children, this world’s last hour has come. You have heard about the Antichrist who is coming—the one who is against Christ—and already many such persons have appeared. This makes us all the more certain that the end of the world is near. MSG Children, time is just about up. You heard that Antichrist is coming. Well, they’re all over the place, antichrists everywhere you look. That’s how we know that we’re close to the end. RSV Children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come; therefore we know that it is the last hour.
Your information is very, very flawed. What you know is a fabricated, exaggerated myth and you know nothing about the reality. Someone has instilled a deep, deep hatred within you, and it wasn't God. Until you are willing to let go of that hatred, nothing I or anyone else can say to you will penetrate through the thick armor you've surrounded this myth with. For example, if what you claim is true, then much of the population in Europe would have been murdered by the Catholic Church . . that is completely nonsensical.