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    • Biblical Calculations 1. (70 X 7)
      Hi Marilyn, Thanks for bringing up this great thread! I am passionate about Daniel, especially the "sevens" and I ask that you grant me some leeway as I can be quite opinionated and may risk sounding arrogant... But I assure you that is not the case, but rather there are certain things I can't wrap my mind around when discussing the widely accepted interpretation of sevens as weeks of years and the decree as Artaxerxes. I got into this on another post, but could you share your perspective with me on the following questions: 1. How is Artaxerxes granting permission to Nehemiah to go to Jerusalem seen as a decree to rebuild Jerusalem when most of it had already been rebuilt, as this was almost a full 100 years after the Jews returned from exile? (I understand the walls weren't built, but the decree was not to rebuild the walls it was to rebuild the city and the temple. Daniel mentions that these things would be done during the 62 sevens, but not as a reference to the decree.) 2. How can you dismiss the explicit decree of Cyrus (Ezra 1:1-4), as well as God telling Isaiah that Cyrus would be the one to say of Jerusalem, "Let it be rebuilt" (Isaiah 44:28)?  3. How does it make sense to combine the seven sevens and sixty two sevens when Daniel (or Gabriel) separated them for a reason?  On a side note, the use of "shabua" (shavua) is in Daniel 9:27... In 24-26 when discussing the plural sevens he uses shavui'ym as a unique masculine plural use of shavua as the typical masculine plural use of shavua would be Shavuot. As a matter of fact the only time that shavui'ym is used in the Old Testament (and the entire bible I believe) is the four times it is used in Daniel 9. The literal translation of shavua is sevens (usually as in a period of sevens).  Furthermore I would say that if Daniel wanted to use sevens to mean weeks of sevens, he would have likely followed the tradition of the Jubilee by saying seventy sabbath years as it was in Leviticus 25:8.  Lastly, I hope people can evaluate the possibility that each chapter of Daniel should be taken and examined separately as these prophecies were sometimes decades apart and though some language may seem similar, the context is different and these prophecies are meant to stand on their own.  When we combinine them with days and weeks and years from other unrelated prophecies, we confuse the message and our readers.  I have a detailed post on this subject on my site, but I will tell you that my revelation into Daniel showed me that the seven "shavui'ym" were seven months with seven... The sixty-two shavui'ym were sixty-two years with sevens... And the final seven? Was a literal week. This solves virtually all the issues with the current interpretations. I will be glad to share it with you, because it leads from the decree of Cyrus in 538BC to seven days before Passover in 34BC as the start of the final seven.  Be Blessed,   Daniel      
    • Genesis- a Prophecy? a History Book? and other things Prophetic
      I would like to actually share a revelation that I had on this very subject... However, the revelation I had was about how Genesis told the entire story of man... Up to this day. I wrote a detailed account of it on daniel23.com, but he is a quick summary of what was revealed to me: Day 1: Adam and The Age of the Fall   AND GOD SAID, “LET THERE BE LIGHT,” AND THERE WAS LIGHT. GOD SAW THAT THE LIGHT WAS GOOD, AND HE SEPARATED THE LIGHT FROM THE DARKNESS. GOD CALLED THE LIGHT “DAY,” AND THE DARKNESS HE CALLED “NIGHT.” AND THERE WAS EVENING, AND THERE WAS MORNING—THE FIRST DAY.  GENESIS 1:3-5 Day 2: Noah and The Age of the Flood AND GOD SAID, “LET THERE BE A VAULT BETWEEN THE WATERS TO SEPARATE WATER FROM WATER.” SO GOD MADE THE VAULT AND SEPARATED THE WATER UNDER THE VAULT FROM THE WATER ABOVE IT. AND IT WAS SO. GOD CALLED THE VAULT “SKY.” AND THERE WAS EVENING, AND THERE WAS MORNING—THE SECOND DAY.    GENESIS 1:6-8 Day 3: Abraham and The Age of the Covenant AND GOD SAID, “LET THE WATER UNDER THE SKY BE GATHERED TO ONE PLACE,AND LET DRY GROUND APPEAR.” AND IT WAS SO.GOD CALLED THE DRY GROUND “LAND,” AND THE GATHERED WATERS HE CALLED “SEAS.” AND GOD SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD. THEN GOD SAID, “LET THE LAND PRODUCE VEGETATION: SEED-BEARING PLANTS AND TREES ON THE LAND THAT BEAR FRUIT WITH SEED IN IT, ACCORDING TO THEIR VARIOUS KINDS.” AND IT WAS SO. THE LAND PRODUCED VEGETATION: PLANTS BEARING SEED ACCORDING TO THEIR KINDS AND TREES BEARING FRUIT WITH SEED IN IT ACCORDING TO THEIR KINDS. AND GOD SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD. AND THERE WAS EVENING, AND THERE WAS MORNING—THE THIRD DAY.   GENESIS 1:9-13 Day 4: King David and King Solomon: The Age of God’s Temple AND GOD SAID, “LET THERE BE LIGHTS IN THE VAULT OF THE SKY TO SEPARATE THE DAY FROM THE NIGHT, AND LET THEM SERVE AS SIGNS TO MARK SACRED TIMES, AND DAYS AND YEARS, AND LET THEM BE LIGHTS IN THE VAULT OF THE SKY TO GIVE LIGHT ON THE EARTH.” AND IT WAS SO. GOD MADE TWO GREAT LIGHTS—THE GREATER LIGHT TO GOVERN THE DAY AND THE LESSER LIGHT TO GOVERN THE NIGHT. HE ALSO MADE THE STARS. GOD SET THEM IN THE VAULT OF THE SKY TO GIVE LIGHT ON THE EARTH, TO GOVERN THE DAY AND THE NIGHT, AND TO SEPARATE LIGHT FROM DARKNESS. AND GOD SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD. AND THERE WAS EVENING, AND THERE WAS MORNING—THE FOURTH DAY.  GENESIS 1:14-19 Day 5: Jesus Christ and The Age of Redemption And God said, "Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.” GENESIS 1:20 Day 6: Satan and The Age of Enlightenment ““And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.”. Genesis 1:24 Day 7: Jesus Returns and The Age of God’s Rests THUS THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH WERE COMPLETED IN ALL THEIR VAST ARRAY. BY THE SEVENTH DAY GOD HAD FINISHED THE WORK HE HAD BEEN DOING; SO ON THE SEVENTH DAY HE RESTED FROM ALL HIS WORK. THEN GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY AND MADE IT HOLY, BECAUSE ON IT HE RESTED FROM ALL THE WORK OF CREATING THAT HE HAD DONE. GENESIS 2:1-3 Other than each of these fitting chronologically within each of God's specific creation days (a thousand year to us) timeline You will see that you cannot switch any of these key biblical features into any other day, nor could you substitute any other figure and have the same result. He truly did know the end from the beginning and He has been proving it this whole time. It is mind boggling! Stay Blessed!    Daniel
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    • Understanding the Final One Seven
      I have read through all these comments and there is obviously an inherent problem with the entire current Daniel translation of the "sevens" (or shavui'ym in Daniel 9:24-26 and shavua in 9:27) as "weeks of years".. It doesn't work. It doesn't work for the "seven sevens" and the "sixty two sevens"... And it doesn't work for the last seven. There is only one decree to rebuild Jerusalem in the bible and it is the decree of Cyrus. The reason that people keep trying to convince us that it had to be Artaxerxes is because that is the only way the math works. The problem with this is, even if we were to accept that Artaxerxes made a decree that was not explicit in the word of God, it would make the prophecies in Isaiah 44:28 and 45:1-13 false.  So if the first 69 "sevens" aren't solved why would the last be any different.  I wrote a post a few days ago explaining an entirely different interpretation of Daniel, that shows that the shavui'ym, which was a word unique to Daniel 9, was not "weeks of years", but rather periods with 7's... And these 3 separate "sevens" are each different units of times... With the last 7 being a literal week. On my post I show that this calculation leads from the decree of Cyrus to the exact day of the beginning of the last seven (Jesus' last week) on Wed. April 14th, 34AD. In the middle of that week he kicks the merchants out of the temple, causing the sacrifice and offerings to cease and tells the Pharisees to destroy the temple and he will rebuild it in three days (speaking of His body). This whole series of events is how he causes the abomination that leads to the desolation... (He knows that they are going to kill Him after that).  The problem is with a lot of the arguments that I see on this subject is that they are all based on the same broken premise that the "shavui'ym" are weeks of years... If that was the true interpretation of these verses, then it would lead from Cyrus to Jesus... Since it doesn't, it cannot be true. Stay Blessed! Daniel    
    • conviction or shaming
      What is the Holy Spirit? The Spirit of God that moves men to do acts of righteousness that cause others to see and know their sin. Luk 5:8 When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord. Conviction comes from seeing others do that which is right moreso than from people saying what is right but speaking by the Holy Spirit may convict.  Luk 13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and leadhim away to watering?

      Luk 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

      Luk 13:17 And when he had said these things, all his adversaries were ashamed: and all the people rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by him. Again he spoke but it was of the works he had done that were righteous. 1Co 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or oneunlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: Prophesying about the wonderful works of God by the Holy Spirit convicts the hearers.  For this cause, when I am given the opportunity to share how pitifully sinful I was before Christ and of the total heart transformation he preformed in me, I do not hesitate.  Those who are as I once was are without excuse after I testify of the mighty works wroght in me by God.  Therefore I spend my time amongst drunks and theives professing Christ in me and deliverance from sinful pleasures of the flesh that I was given over unto. The fear of God IS the beginning of wisdom and knowledge.  Fear therefore and depart from sin or face being given by God unto a reprobate mind to do all kinds of evil.  God is not mocked indeed!  I tempted the Lord and found him to faithfully execute judgment against my wilful transgressions.   Do not forget the words of the writer of Hebrews who taught us that the beginning is rough but gets better over time.  Heb 10:32But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions Strive for oneness with God in the Spirit and grow in grace and truth.  I have found that God does not make to hard of terms for those who truly seek to please him but the rod is hard when we get wilful.  Peace!
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