Wiccan, according to the Word of God, one can either be for the one true God or against Him. Though there are many denominations(including the non denominations) of Christians, if they have really accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior, then they are for God.
Anybody that has not accepted God's gift of grace and mercy is against Him. That goes for the errant doctrines of the JW's, Mormons, Islamic, Buddhists, Wiccan, satanists, Sikhs, and so forth.
I don't think the sounds the scientists supposedly have discovered are coming from hell. I do know that hell is a very real place, yet Scripture doesn't necessarily have to be interpreted that hell is really made up of fire. There are times that the Bible uses symbolism, and in the Bible, fire is symbolic of punishment. Don't get me wrong, just because I don't necessarily believe it is fire, doesn't mean I think it's an alright place to go. Quite the opposite!!!! People in hell will be completely given over to their own unfulfilling desires(the main one is that they will be away from God's mercy).
To not ever have the protection of God's grace probably can't be described except with the use of symbolic fire.
Neb, I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree on the Holy Spirit baptism. I know exactly what verses to look to, but after studying the Word intently, as well as listening to theologians from both sides of the equation, I am certain that I have been given gifts that I am responsible to use for the Lord's glory. I have never spoken in tongues, and I know it is impossible to receive spiritual gifts without having received the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I believe the evidence in Scripture points to that baptism occurring at the time of conversion since the apostolic age has ceased.
Shadow, I didn't mean to imply in my post concerning judging the sin that the sinner was not at fault. However, quite a lot of Christians fail to act in love when they are dealing with the blatant sinner. We are never to be accepting of their sinfulness, nor are we to shrug our shoulders at our own sin. Hope this clears up my meaning a little better, brother.
Neb, Just for the record. All Christians have received the baptism of the Holy Spirit, just some are more mature than others.
Pam, don't drop out. Sometimes one group claims a name that isn't necessarily theirs alone. For instance, faith and Word belong to us all. Another example is the term fundamentalist used to not have such negative connotations of legalism. In the secular world, look how homosexuals have stolen the term gay. Keep on keeping on, sister.
Yes, the canon is closed.
As for man not receiving revelation, I don't know about that. Once someone becomes a Christian, they have "received" the revelation of Jesus Christ, so in that sense they did receive revelation now.
God-man, As to the original post in this thread, it seems to be making a case for the Trinitarian view. It is saying that the Lord(Jesus) is the Spirit(Holy Spirit), yet by naming them as such, Paul is also showing a distinction between the two.
VoG, I find it strange that God would personally tell you that we Christians study the Bible, yet we don't know Him any better because of it. In fact, your exact quote was,
"I long, for My people to come and walk with Me and to talk with Me, like you are doing now. I have so much to tell them, and so much to give them, but they seem to not have enough time in the day for Me. They study the scriptures and know much about Me through them, and also, they fellowship with one another each day, but they really don't know or spend much time with Me!"
It's funny how He has given you a different doctrine then He gave all the rest of us in 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Even if the gist of what you said were true, the wording is extremely faulty.
VoG, the Scripture "judge not, lest you be judged" is not forbidding anyone of us from exposing false teaching. When the Word of God doesn't say something, we have a right to "call" somebody who twists it, for whatever reason, to contradict itself. Name it and claim it, blab it and grab it, etc... is heresy and NOT supported by the Bible.
I'm not sure I know of any creationists that use that contradictory belief system. A couple of good websites to check out would be the Answers in Genesis and Kent Hovind's. There are some issues that AIG and Dr. Hovind disagree on, but overall they are more reliable than a secular scientist with a open disdain for God's existence.
I've come to the belief in pre-tribulationism. From my studies, I think that Christ will take us up in the rapture, and His 1,000 year reign will begin after that. In 1 and 2 Thessalonians(i can't recall the exact verses right now), there is seemingly supporting evidence for the rapture occuring prior to the tribulation(1 Thess), and for Jesus' return to rule over and judge the earth(2 Thess). A very good book to use as a supplementary resource is David Jeremiah's, Escape the Coming Night.
For one, the carbon dating method is seriously flawed. In reality, it is impossible for the carbon dating method to measure back 100,000 years. Also, carbon dating is based on assumptions that are more than likely false. The main assumption is the belief that carbon intake has been the same since time began. With the industrial age and other advances, it is far more likely that carbon intake is dramatically different than that of 250 years ago.
Doesn't matter either way to me. Not only do we have faith to know that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh, but we have so much more evidence to corroborate the fact that He is who He claimed to be.
Of course, it's interesting to note that when something like this is found out in the Christian realm, the secular world is on it like vultures on rotting flesh. Yet, when secularists forge things, such as false dating methods of the earth, we are supposed to discount any evidence that refutes it(such as the impact on the earth of a worldwide flood and the ice age that came after it).