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"The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

“The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

“The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."]]> Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:45:24 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/danger-America-Barack-t118667.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Zacharias-encounter-t118664.html
11 And an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing to the right of the altar of incense. 12 Zacharias was troubled when he saw the angel, and fear gripped him.

13 But the angel said to him, "Do not be afraid, Zacharias, for your petition has been heard, and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you will give him the name John. 14 "You will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth. 15 "For he will be great in the sight of the Lord ; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother's womb. 16 "And he will turn many of the sons of Israel back to the Lord their God. 17 "It is he who will go as a forerunner before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, TO TURN THE HEARTS OF THE FATHERS BACK TO THE CHILDREN, and the disobedient to the attitude of the righteous, so as to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."

18 Zacharias said to the angel, "How will I know this for certain? For I am an old man and my wife is advanced in years."

19 The angel answered and said to him, "I am Gabriel, who stands in the presence of God, and I have been sent to speak to you and to bring you this good news. 20 "And behold, you shall be silent and unable to speak until the day when these things take place, because you did not believe my words, which will be fulfilled in their proper time."


Ever since I was a child, I always perceived Gabriel to have spoken his last words in anger - that Zacharias' muteness was a punishment.


But recently I began seeing something a little different.



Zacharias said to the angel, "How will I know this for certain?..."



And the angel responds - "You need a sign? OK, here is your sign -

I am Gabriel"



Daniel 8:16 - And I heard the voice of a man between the banks of Ulai, and he called out and said, "Gabriel, give this man an understanding of the vision."


Being a priest, he should have been well versed in Scripture. Chances are it would not have taken long for him to make the connection that this being speaking to him was quite likely the same being who spoke to Daniel!



"And behold, you shall be silent and unable to speak until the day when these things take place"


In reading this, my original inclination was to conclude that as a priest he should have known better than to doubt an angel speaking to him! But when you look at other angelic encounters, pretty much everyone has a "Huh?!" reaction, yet were not punished such. So why would Zacharias be treated differently?

I am thinking now that the muteness was his sign.

Due to the nature of his calling as a father to "the Elijah who is to come," he needed a sign that would erase any traces of doubt from is natural mind of God's plan and purpose.

Remember, our minds are funny things - how often we forget the hand of God in our lives! And how often does what we perceive as a miracle today somehow becomes perceived as something natural the next? I don't see Zacharias as being more weak than anyone else, but rather he was just as weak as everyone else! Remember how Abraham was deceitful twice with regards to Sarah? How Moses disobeyed the Lord by striking the rock rather than speaking to it?


So Zacharias needed a sign - a sign beyond his wife becoming pregnant at an old age - to know the word was true. His muteness was the sign he was given.


But as it turned out, this sign was not for him alone!


Luke 1
62 And they made signs to his father, as to what he wanted him called. 63 And he asked for a tablet and wrote as follows, "His name is John." And they were all astonished. 64 And at once his mouth was opened and his tongue loosed, and he began to speak in praise of God. 65 Fear came on all those living around them; and all these matters were being talked about in all the hill country of Judea. 66 All who heard them kept them in mind, saying, "What then will this child turn out to be?" For the hand of the Lord was certainly with him.


Zacharias asked for a sign for himself, but the Lord gave a sign for the people around him as well. The Lord was letting the community of priests know that He was beginning to move. And it took some strange happenings going on for this to be the talk of the town. ]]> Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:49:26 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Zacharias-encounter-t118664.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Pleading-Family-t118657.html

In life, I don't argue with people. I question things, am very observant, overanalyze and overcomplicate. It seems to people here that I am challenging them and arguing with them but over here in my mind and heart, I am not.

When I am arguing, I know in my heart that I am. I am not oblivious when I am doing something wrong. I am very sensitive to the Spirit. And I apologize for it. Sometimes, I apologize even when I didn't do anything wrong.

I am the type that takes something apart and puts it back together a million times before making a decision or forming an opinion.

My dad is the same way. We just have really complex brains which I'm sure other people in the world do too. I have to beat something dead to form an opinion and cover all angles/possibilities until I understand it in my mind and I ask questions in the fashion that it takes to accomplish that goal.


I really don't know how to get that across in how I type without you guys constantly accusing me of arguing or condemning. Sure, we all have areas that we can work on to state things a little better but I'm not perfect. I can not always say what I mean exactly. It takes me awhile to get there. Maybe I'm a little challenged


In any case, I wish you guys would believe me or maybe take the time to teach me a better way rather than accusing me. I really do love and care about you guys. If I didn't, I wouldn't keep coming around. I don't have an ulterior motive.

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I want to say this but I want to double check that I am saying it correctly first. This is not me waving a flag. I don't want to tell him the wrong thing, especially because he asking me. I've been practicing the art of "keep my mouth shut" and he is starting to ask me questions

For those of you that don't know, my husband is saved, just very new at it.


Letting God work it out and do it His way is casting the worries (burdens) onto Him that you have no control over, getting out of the way, because He doesn't need your help!

The things you do have control over, you just take the next obedient step and He will direct your path, working everything out for you.

Philippians 4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
]]> Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:36:24 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Question-t118649.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Christian-Discipleship-t118640.html Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:53:34 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Christian-Discipleship-t118640.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/quiet-inventory-t118639.html
As I search scripture about faith, one thing stands out more then anything else, and that is the level of faith we are given. This is clearly seen when we read Romans 13:8 - Romans 14, where Paul is clear about one having more faith then another, but he is speaking about the liberty we have in faith more then living by faith. We read how the Apostle lived by faith as they moved from one place to another in their ministry. We read how the early church had to live by faith more then we do today, giving up all they had to help those who had nothing, or were in need. I turn to the question Jesus asked ... 'Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?"

Is the faith we have supposed to be different from one issue to another? In God, I see no difference in the faith He gives us, only the level of faith. Are we to seek more faith or be satisfied in what we have? We read many time that "By Faith" ... Hebrews 11 comes to mind. Just doing a little word search on faith, we find that it is mentioned over 280 times in just the New Testament alone, so how important is faith to God?

As an exercise, take a couple of days and see just how much you have to live by faith. Do this alone, between you and God. Do you have to rely on him for a place to sleep, food, clothing, money to live by or for our very freedom to live? Is our faith tested or is it something we wear as a label being a Christian? How much is your faith tested? What would happen if tomorrow, you had to live by faith alone? Would you survive? Is your faith strong enough to completely rely on God for everything? I ask because I believe the day is coming where this will become a reality to us all who trust in Christ, and not just an exercise.

Please, don't compare your faith to another persons faith here. This is meant to be done quietly, between you and God alone, not a debate to what faith is or is not. There are enough threads on that alone. Just become self aware to how much faith you truly have, kind of like taking your faith temperature. True faith, not "Word of Faith" faith either. (There is a big difference between Word of Faith teaching then real faith. Real faith is in God to provide, not to fill your wallet with money or get you that fancy new car or house, which if needed to be discussed, start another thread and discuss it there.)]]> Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:22:24 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/quiet-inventory-t118639.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Jesus-break-law-t118637.html
1But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" 6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

A muslim friend of mine brought this up. He told me that Jesus broke the law here. Did he?
]]> Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:52:21 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Jesus-break-law-t118637.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Elijah-t118618.html Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:54:29 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Elijah-t118618.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/zap-it-t118609.html which problem would you annhilate? Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:43:15 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/zap-it-t118609.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Bible-mom-dad-t118608.html

me....saint michael the archangel

i know angels don't reproduce...but if i can pick anyone...i want a set of WINGS!]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:39:21 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Bible-mom-dad-t118608.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/marry-God-mind-t118607.html

my situation is i am never getting married but wanting to dedicate my life to the lord so i sometimes think "God is my husband" but then that seems so....wrong]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:36:53 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/marry-God-mind-t118607.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Condition-post-quake-Hai-t118606.html

From Travel the Road:


http://campaigns.ratepoint.com/campaigns/d...c61cbb05763545b]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:36:33 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Condition-post-quake-Hai-t118606.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/know-t118602.html Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:10:48 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/know-t118602.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Health-care-plan-Federal-t118599.html Should the Federal Goverment be involved in the destruction of living creatures? The health care bill was all but dead, but now they are trying to push it through without even a senitorial vote, the liberal left is trying to push thier agenda through by subverting the Constitution, if you believe that a fetus is a God created living creature then please call or go to there web site and let your congressman/Senator know of your opposition. also pray for wisdom for our government leaders. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:31:16 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Health-care-plan-Federal-t118599.html http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Kill-Animals-Flood-t118598.html
I know He had Noah save a certain amount, but why kill all the others in the first place? Surely he could have saved them all if He so chose?

And what about sea-life? They would ofcourse, survive, so why allow them to live, simply because that is the nature of His choice of destruction?]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:29:26 -0400 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/Kill-Animals-Flood-t118598.html