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Are we becoming the next Zimbabwe?

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Chuck Bentley
Exposing the myth that government eliminates poverty
by Chuck Bentley
03/09/2012

America has been embroiled in a losing war far longer than any engagement in Afghanistan or Iraq. In declaring a “War on Poverty” in 1964, then President Lyndon Johnson asserted the grandiose claim that government could be the conqueror of a foe as old as mankind.

But with rising poverty rates and an exploding national debt it is time to reconsider just how to fight a “war on poverty” and whether government is of any lasting help at all.
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Zimbabwe is Exhibit A for a failed wealth redistribution program.

President Mugabe took from the “Have Too Much” and gave to the “Have Too Little,” which caused multiple unforeseen consequences: the commercial farmers (wealth producers) left the country, leaving non-farmers with assets they were not equipped to manage. Production dropped, export income dried up and the loss of trust in the leadership caused outside investment to also drop off the cliff. To supplement their losses and domestic problems, the government borrowed and printed money until it became worthless thereby destroying the middle class and sending most of the entire population into abject, life destroying poverty.


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Clearly, there are very few points of contrasts between the USA and Zimbabwe. Therefore it's rather silly to make a comparison.

As to the comments on Zimbabwe, well Mugabe has taken from one priveledged elites - a small number of white farmers to another elite his political and milotary cronies. Taking ftom one bunch of haves and givimg it to other haves. Ia broader historical view will show that within very recent history between the 1930's and the 1970's that land wad stolen from its original owners and given to white those settlers. Taking from the have little and giving to the have loads.

How do you feel about that original expropriation?

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Clearly, there are very few points of contrasts between the USA and Zimbabwe. Therefore it's rather silly to make a comparison.

As to the comments on Zimbabwe, well Mugabe has taken from one priveledged elites - a small number of white farmers to another elite his political and milotary cronies. Taking ftom one bunch of haves and givimg it to other haves. Ia broader historical view will show that within very recent history between the 1930's and the 1970's that land wad stolen from its original owners and given to white those settlers. Taking from the have little and giving to the have loads.

How do you feel about that original expropriation?



I don't see the comparison either; Mugabe isn't a socialist, he's just a greedy dictator (much like Kim Jung Il or Saddam Hussein) who took everything for himself and his buddies.

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Clearly, there are very few points of contrasts between the USA and Zimbabwe. Therefore it's rather silly to make a comparison.

As to the comments on Zimbabwe, well Mugabe has taken from one privileged elites - a small number of white farmers to another elite his political and military cronies. Taking from one bunch of haves and giving it to other haves. Ia broader historical view will show that within very recent history between the 1930's and the 1970's that land wad stolen from its original owners and given to white those settlers. Taking from the have little and giving to the have loads.....

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The Ludwig Mises Institute declares:

"The identification of Nazi Germany as a socialist state was one of the many great contributions of Ludwig von Mises...

The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.

De facto government ownership of the means of production, as Mises termed it, was logically implied by such fundamental collectivist principles embraced by the Nazis as that the common good comes before the private good and the individual exists as a means to the ends of the State. If the individual is a means to the ends of the State, so too, of course, is his property. Just as he is owned by the State, his property is also owned by the State."

Because many businesses still are privately owned, ipso facto, the United States is not a socialistic government. "That definition is confuted by the earliest theoretical writings on socialism. In France, Henri de Saint-Simon, in the first decades of the 1800s, and his pupil and colleague Auguste Comte, in the 1820s and 30s, along with Robert Owen contemporaneously in England, stated that the essential feature of what Owen called socialism is government regulation of the means of production and distribution." When the government controls the volume of money and its economic applications, it has the economy in a stranglehold. When government controls education so that nothing other than secular socialism may be taught, as Saint-Simon advocated, it controls the future destiny of a nation.


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