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A Woman of Influence: Prov. 31

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Trick 'IS' to love exactly where God Has brought us into being With Him -male, female, rich, poor, pretty, pretty ugly...
as Holiness is not the evaluation of ourselves to others but His of us >.<
then if this 'IS' so= we will be beautiful in His Pleasure of us!!! Love, Steven


Wow Brother Steven. I must say... What a great answer this is.
And I love your signature, - original - hahahaha

Take for instance Maria Magdalene....and what is holy according to man?? Just a thought :)

God bless.

Love in Our Lord Jesus Christ
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Edited by ShepherdSheep, 29 November 2012 - 11:33 AM.


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I was talking about this passage with my wife and we were discussing who this passage (Ps. 31) might refer to? Perhaps Abigail? Perhaps Rahab?

What do you think?

God bless,
GE

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I was talking about this passage with my wife and we were discussing who this passage (Ps. 31) might refer to? Perhaps Abigail? Perhaps Rahab?

What do you think?



The Pr 31 woman is a composite of several virtuous women listed throughout the Bible.

Pr 31:10
Everyone in her community knew that Ruth was a virtuous woman (Ru 3:11).

These women were called blessed:
Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her: “Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all.” (Pr 31:29)
Most blessed among women is Jael, the wife of Heber the Kenite. May she be blessed above all women who live in tents. (Ju 5:24)
Mary - Thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. (Lu 1:28)

These women spoke wisdom and faithful instruction. (Pr 31:26).
Unnamed wise woman of Abel's wise instruction saved her city. (2 Sa 20:19-22)
Esther was woman of strength and dignity who feared God. Her wisdom helped saved the Jews from annihilation. (Book of Es)
Pilate's wife spoke with wisdom and faithful instruction. (Mt 27:19)
Others in her community had "full confidence" in the prophet Huldah's ability to authenticate a very important book for the king. (2 Ki 22:14-20).
Rahab "watched over the affairs of her household." She wisely and faithfully "instructed" the spies about how to hide and escape. She negotiated a plan that would save her life and the lives of those in her household. (He 11:31)
Priscilla worked with her hands too. She was a tent maker. She assisted her husband in giving Apollos wise and faithful instruction. (Ac 18:26)
Prophetess Anna's lamp didn't go out at night because she worshiped God day and night by fasting and praying. She wasn't idle, and wisdom and faithful instruction were on her tongue. (Lu 2:36-38)
Judge & Prophet Deborah wisely instructed the people of Israel. (Ju chapter 4 & 5)

She has been like a merchant's ship that brings its merchandise from far away. (Pr 31:14)
The Queen of Sheba literally brought Solomon gifts of gold, large quantities of spices, and precious stones from away. (1 Ki 10:6-10). Also like Pro 31 woman, Queen of Sheba'a earned a reward, and her quest for wisdom brought her praise. Queen of Sheba is one of the few women Jesus celebrates from the OT. She came from afar to hear the wisdom of a mere man. She was amazed at what she saw and heard. However, when Jesus who was greater than Solomon came, many despised, rejected, slighted and slandered Him. (Mt 12:42)

Watched over affairs of household (Pr 31:27)
Zipporah knew what she needed to do to save her husband's life. She brought him goodness and not harm. (Ex 4:14-20)
Moses' mom hid him. Moses may or may not have called her blessed, but Paul felt she was blessed and listed her in the Hebrew Hall of faith. (He 11:23).
Deacon Phoebe helped watch over the affairs of the household of faith. (Ro 16:1-2)

Brings goodness rather than harm. (Pr 31:12)
Midwives did what was "good" for newborns and refused to harm them like the king commanded. (Ex 1:15-21)

Helps poor (Pr 31:20)
Dorcas helped the poor. (Ac 9:36)

Doesn't let her lamp go out... (Pr 31:18)
Wise virgin didn't allow her lamp to go out. She was prepared when Bridegroom came. (Ma 25:1-12)

Like the Pr 31 woman, Lydia was a woman of noble character. The name "Lydia" means noble.
The Pr 31 woman wore purple, and Lydia sold it. Pro 31 woman was a merchant and so was Lydia. (Ac 16:14, 40)

None of these women were superwoman, but each was super and virtuous in her own way.

Edited by proverbs35, 08 December 2012 - 10:45 AM.


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None of these women were superwoman, but each was super and virtuous in her own way.[/size][/font]


Amen~!

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Proverbs 31 gets a lot of attention on Mothers Day worldwide possibly more than any time of the year. However, we were teaching about virtue today and I decided to present this to others.

The majority of the proverb describes a virtuous woman who leads her home with integrity, discipline, and giftedness. This wife and mother in the last proverbs is a leader not because she tries to be one, but because of who she is.

A. Her Assets:

She is trustworthy (v. 11)
She is a positive influence (v. 12)
She is a hard worker (v. 13, 14, 19, 24-27)
She is a planner (v. 21, 22)
She is protective (v. 27)

B. Her Achievements
She meets the needs of her home (v. 15)
She invests for her household (v. 16)
She keeps herself in shape (v. 17)
She helps her husband become successful. (v. 23)

C. Her Attitudes
Delightful (v. 13)
Healthy (v. 18)
Compassionate (v. 20)
Unselfish (v. 20)
Public (v. 25)

D. Her Applause
From her family (v. 28)
From her husband (v. 28, 29)
From God's Word (v. 30)
From her works (v. 31)

Your thoughts? Anything I missed or you'd like to add/comment on?

God bless,
GE



Source: Leadership material from John C. Maxwell


Wasn't this an episode of wonder woman ? :red_smile: :101:

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I don't mind these parts


A. Her Assets:

She is trustworthy (v. 11)
She is a positive influence (v. 12)
She is a hard worker (v. 13, 14, 19, 24-27)

She is protective (v. 27)

B. Her Achievements
She meets the needs of her home (v. 15)

She helps her husband become successful. (v. 23)

C. Her Attitudes
Delightful (v. 13)

Compassionate (v. 20)
Unselfish (v. 20)

D. Her Applause
From her family (v. 28)
From her husband (v. 28, 29)
From God's Word (v. 30)
From her works (v. 31)



But I have a problem with these parts:

A. Her Assets:

She is a planner (v. 21, 22)

B. Her Achievements

She invests for her household (v. 16)
She keeps herself in shape (v. 17)

C. Her Attitudes

Healthy (v. 18)

Public (v. 25)


I'm not skilled at planning.
I'm not a financial wizard
I'm not athletically inclined
I have health issues that can't be healed naturally
I'm introverted

:online2long:


Can any woman possibly be this super-woman described here?


Actually, I was thinking right away when I read the start of this thread that this woman doesn't exist today. Maybe she existed in the time it was written, but I really don't think so today. Does that sound too cynical?

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I don't mind these parts


A. Her Assets:

She is trustworthy (v. 11)
She is a positive influence (v. 12)
She is a hard worker (v. 13, 14, 19, 24-27)

She is protective (v. 27)

B. Her Achievements
She meets the needs of her home (v. 15)

She helps her husband become successful. (v. 23)

C. Her Attitudes
Delightful (v. 13)

Compassionate (v. 20)
Unselfish (v. 20)

D. Her Applause
From her family (v. 28)
From her husband (v. 28, 29)
From God's Word (v. 30)
From her works (v. 31)



But I have a problem with these parts:

A. Her Assets:

She is a planner (v. 21, 22)

B. Her Achievements

She invests for her household (v. 16)
She keeps herself in shape (v. 17)

C. Her Attitudes

Healthy (v. 18)

Public (v. 25)


I'm not skilled at planning.
I'm not a financial wizard
I'm not athletically inclined
I have health issues that can't be healed naturally
I'm introverted

:online2long:


Can any woman possibly be this super-woman described here?


Actually, I was thinking right away when I read the start of this thread that this woman doesn't exist today. Maybe she existed in the time it was written, but I really don't think so today. Does that sound too cynical?

Certainly a slap to my sisters here who are pressing to be thus :) ... perhaps violating the encouragement aspect of Scripture!
I have read some remarkable virtues of some who have written here... so perhaps yes to cynical ... Love, Steven

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None of these women were superwoman, but each was super and virtuous in her own way.


Great post proverbs35! :thumbsup:

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Can any woman possibly be this super-woman described here?


Actually, I was thinking right away when I read the start of this thread that this woman doesn't exist today. Maybe she existed in the time it was written, but I really don't think so today. Does that sound too cynical?

Certainly a slap to my sisters here who are pressing to be thus :) ... perhaps violating the encouragement aspect of Scripture!
I have read some remarkable virtues of some who have written here... so perhaps yes to cynical ... Love, Steven


Like I've said before perhaps this is just an ideal? Something to aspire to?

Is there a male type version of this in the Bible that anyone can think of? Perhaps the instructions to pastors/bishops/elders? Might be a good topic for a new thread.

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Can any woman possibly be this super-woman described here?


Actually, I was thinking right away when I read the start of this thread that this woman doesn't exist today. Maybe she existed in the time it was written, but I really don't think so today. Does that sound too cynical?

Certainly a slap to my sisters here who are pressing to be thus :) ... perhaps violating the encouragement aspect of Scripture!
I have read some remarkable virtues of some who have written here... so perhaps yes to cynical ... Love, Steven


Like I've said before perhaps this is just an ideal? Something to aspire to?

Is there a male type version of this in the Bible that anyone can think of? Perhaps the instructions to pastors/bishops/elders? Might be a good topic for a new thread.

Have ya ever noticed how when love is allowed in place of judgment that frailty's of wrongness is overlooked with hope of rightness both in others and self!
Heb 11:1-2
11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
NKJV

and as all being The Bride~ perhaps a sugestion of eternity and function of His Chruch... Love, Steven

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sorry, i just thought i'd repeat my answer to nebula. a woman doesn't have to be a superwoman to fit the biblical model of virtuousity.... and although i know i fall pretty short of the goal, i'm quite certain that there are a LOT of women who fit every aspect.

but not everybody reads the passage and understands it the same way. it doesn't make any of us wrong, and it's not changing scripture, it's simply a matter of how different women exemplifies the different assets according to her personal circumstances, strengths, skills, etc.


I don't mind these parts


A. Her Assets:

She is trustworthy (v. 11)
She is a positive influence (v. 12)
She is a hard worker (v. 13, 14, 19, 24-27)

She is protective (v. 27)

B. Her Achievements
She meets the needs of her home (v. 15)

She helps her husband become successful. (v. 23)

C. Her Attitudes
Delightful (v. 13)

Compassionate (v. 20)
Unselfish (v. 20)

D. Her Applause
From her family (v. 28)
From her husband (v. 28, 29)
From God's Word (v. 30)
From her works (v. 31)



But I have a problem with these parts:

A. Her Assets:

She is a planner (v. 21, 22)


i'm sure God knows we all 'plan' differently. i plan more by the seat of my pants than in any organized manner. the actual text of the scripture reads that she has no fear of winter because her household is clothed in scarlet (NKJV) or with warm clothes (NLT). i think the nkjv is more accurate, and has nothing to do with clothes. i think it is referring to her dedication to covering the family with the blood (of sacrifice and burnt offerings back then, but with the blood of Jesus now.)

B. Her Achievements

She invests for her household (v. 16)


the scripture reads she considers a field and buys it. not every wife is going to want or need to buy a field. the issue is really about good stewardship with the household finances. whether you're investing in the ingredients for a meal or an acre of land, God expects us to do so wisely.

She keeps herself in shape (v. 17)


LOL, Golden Eagle's male perspective is shining through, isn't it? ;) i really am not intending to nullify anything he said... when he reads the scripture, how he worded the qualities is what he envisioned when he read them. the same thing can mean different things. in verse 17, it doesn't say she goes to the gym to work out, it says she gird herself with strength, and a hard worker. you strengthening of arms can be metaphorical too, as in nurturing and comforting. while it's easy to think of those as physical qualities, it can also mean mental or emotional abilities as well. i know that your brain is never idle. you're a smart woman, and you use your abilities.

C. Her Attitudes

Healthy (v. 18)

verse 18 says she perceives her merchandise as good and her lamp burns bright even at night. to me that doesn't scream "healthy", at least not in the sense that immediately comes to mind. but taking pride in one's work and making sure it's of high quality IS a healthy attitude, no matter what kind of work you do.

Public (v. 25)

i'm not sure why public is the quality attributed to this verse. it actually says "Strength and honor areher clothing;
She shall rejoice in time to come."

I'm not skilled at planning.
I'm not a financial wizard
I'm not athletically inclined
I have health issues that can't be healed naturally
I'm introverted

:online2long:


Can any woman possibly be this super-woman described here?


P.S. When does she have time to relax, pamper herself, play with the children, play with her husband?


ahhhh.... that happens after the kids are grown and gone, i'm afraid!



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I don't mind these parts


A. Her Assets:

She is trustworthy (v. 11)
She is a positive influence (v. 12)
She is a hard worker (v. 13, 14, 19, 24-27)

She is protective (v. 27)

B. Her Achievements
She meets the needs of her home (v. 15)

She helps her husband become successful. (v. 23)

C. Her Attitudes
Delightful (v. 13)

Compassionate (v. 20)
Unselfish (v. 20)

D. Her Applause
From her family (v. 28)
From her husband (v. 28, 29)
From God's Word (v. 30)
From her works (v. 31)



But I have a problem with these parts:

A. Her Assets:

She is a planner (v. 21, 22)

B. Her Achievements

She invests for her household (v. 16)
She keeps herself in shape (v. 17)

C. Her Attitudes

Healthy (v. 18)

Public (v. 25)


I'm not skilled at planning.
I'm not a financial wizard
I'm not athletically inclined
I have health issues that can't be healed naturally
I'm introverted

:online2long:


Can any woman possibly be this super-woman described here?


Actually, I was thinking right away when I read the start of this thread that this woman doesn't exist today. Maybe she existed in the time it was written, but I really don't think so today. Does that sound too cynical?

Certainly a slap to my sisters here who are pressing to be thus :) ... perhaps violating the encouragement aspect of Scripture!
I have read some remarkable virtues of some who have written here... so perhaps yes to cynical ... Love, Steven


No slap intended! :red_smile: And more power to all our sisters that are pressing toward that mark! My comment was simply that I haven't seen such a woman yet, that can be described in all of the above terms. That's not to say I don't think there are exceptional Christian women, because there are. But based on what I, personally, have seen all my life, I am admittedly slightly cynical/skeptical, about it. God bless!




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