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WN: Pot smokers celebrate in streets as Wash. State legalizes marijua

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The crowds of happy people lighting joints under Seattle's Space Needle early Thursday morning with nary a police officer in sight bespoke the new reality: Marijuana is legal under Washington state law.

http://www.worthynew...arijuana-print/

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Denny's Stock Will Go Up~!

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The Denny's in my town is the local hangout for skin heads, pot smokers, gang bangers and some other pretty rough folks like bikers and such. I thought it was just a local thing. Is this true of other Denny's as well?

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It was on the early news on t.v. about this.
People were parting.

An ounce they can have on them ? huh...where is the rest stashed ? :P


America has gone to pots anyway . With all the law changes, etc.
But, at least I still have my freedom of... choice.

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It was on the early news on t.v. about this.
People were parting.

An ounce they can have on them ? huh...where is the rest stashed ? :P


America has gone to pots anyway . With all the law changes, etc.
But, at least I still have my freedom of... choice.


But don't you know, you are being "intolerant" if you don't agree with them and their choices!

And yes, dennys here in wa is the local pot head hangout too.

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Those who defend the legalizatin of pot argue that it is really no different than the risks that alcohol poses. They have sought to draw all kinds of parallels under the premise that one cannot approve of legalization of alcohol, but be against the legalization MJ without being hypocrictical and internally inconsisitent.

But let's assume for a moment that argument holds true. You can't drive any better under the influence of pot anymore than under the influence of alcohol. So how much do the odds of being killed by someone driving with impaired judgment increase against us?? I mean it will soon be twice as much of a threat now that we are evidently on a path to legalization of MJ. And as if it isn't already bad enough that we have minors who know how to get access to booze, how much worse will it get now that they will be able to get their hands on both?

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It was on the early news on t.v. about this.
People were parting.

An ounce they can have on them ? huh...where is the rest stashed ? :P


America has gone to pots anyway . With all the law changes, etc.
But, at least I still have my freedom of... choice.


But don't you know, you are being "intolerant" if you don't agree with them and their choices!

And yes, dennys here in wa is the local pot head hangout too.

Just as long as they don't blow their smoke in my face.
I know what you mean...
and now we have to put up with the pot heads on the streets...like grocery stores , etc.
What else ?

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Those who defend the legalizatin of pot argue that it is really no different than the risks that alcohol poses. They have sought to draw all kinds of parallels under the premise that one cannot approve of legalization of alcohol, but be against the legalization MJ without being hypocrictical and internally inconsisitent.

But let's assume for a moment that argument holds true. You can't drive any better under the influence of pot anymore than under the influence of alcohol. So how much do the odds of being killed by someone driving with impaired judgment increase against us?? I mean it will soon be twice as much of a threat now that we are evidently on a path to legalization of MJ. And as if it isn't already bad enough that we have minors who know how to get access to booze, how much worse will it get now that they will be able to get their hands on both?


This is assuming people were not driving while high already. It being legal doesnt change much at all. The major thing that changes are arrests, and people getting prison time for weed. The other aspects are not proven. I can tell you from first hand experience that alcohol and weed are two different things when it comes to being under the influence.

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Those who defend the legalizatin of pot argue that it is really no different than the risks that alcohol poses. They have sought to draw all kinds of parallels under the premise that one cannot approve of legalization of alcohol, but be against the legalization MJ without being hypocrictical and internally inconsisitent.

But let's assume for a moment that argument holds true. You can't drive any better under the influence of pot anymore than under the influence of alcohol. So how much do the odds of being killed by someone driving with impaired judgment increase against us?? I mean it will soon be twice as much of a threat now that we are evidently on a path to legalization of MJ. And as if it isn't already bad enough that we have minors who know how to get access to booze, how much worse will it get now that they will be able to get their hands on both?


This is assuming people were not driving while high already. It being legal doesnt change much at all. The major thing that changes are arrests, and people getting prison time for weed. The other aspects are not proven. I can tell you from first hand experience that alcohol and weed are two different things when it comes to being under the influence.


In what way does MJ impair your driving ability, reaction time, etc. compared to alcohol?

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In what way does MJ impair your driving ability, reaction time, etc. compared to alcohol?


Well, let me say that I have never driven drunk. Was too scared, because I knew my vision was totally different,and my functions were not great. When I used to smoke I would drive. My reactions and driving ability were not hindered the slightest. That is my experience though.

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I am not really for pot being legalized, but I have not really heard a good argument not to do so. If it is possible to be neutral on such a topic that is me, I would not vote for it but I would not fight against it either.

There are those that would be more than happy to take away my right to have a nice cold beer with my dinner or while reading at night. Are they any different than those fighting against pot?


I think the difference is that you can drink without getting drunk. People drink in moderation and never get drunk all of the time. Wine with dinner, and so on.

But people don't smoke pot for nothing to happen. No one engages in it just to have a smoke in the evening. They are smoking to get the high. There is no point to it if you don't get the mind altering effects. My question is how those mind altering effects impair judgement and reaction time on the road.

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In what way does MJ impair your driving ability, reaction time, etc. compared to alcohol?


Well, let me say that I have never driven drunk. Was too scared, because I knew my vision was totally different,and my functions were not great. When I used to smoke I would drive. My reactions and driving ability were not hindered the slightest. That is my experience though.


Yeah, but when you are under the influence you don't know how impaired you are. Its the people who look at you that can tell you are high or drunk. So you may have not gotten caught, but that doesn't mean your reactions were not impaired. Some people do manage to beat the odds...

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In what way does MJ impair your driving ability, reaction time, etc. compared to alcohol?


Well, let me say that I have never driven drunk. Was too scared, because I knew my vision was totally different,and my functions were not great. When I used to smoke I would drive. My reactions and driving ability were not hindered the slightest. That is my experience though.


Yeah, but when you are under the influence you don't know how impaired you are. Its the people who look at you that can tell you are high or drunk. So you may have not gotten caught, but that doesn't mean your reactions were not impaired. Some people do manage to beat the odds...


I think that is a pretty subjective arguement. I know exactly how impaired I was when I smoked or drank. Also, people didn't know if I was high or drunk, been there done that, and in some really sticky situations. Its not about beating the odds, but knowing the limits. Smoking also has limits.

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Well, let me say that I have never driven drunk. Was too scared, because I knew my vision was totally different,and my functions were not great. When I used to smoke I would drive. My reactions and driving ability were not hindered the slightest. That is my experience though.


You don't know that and are unable to make that judgment call. Ask anyone who is drunk and trying to drive if their abilities are impaired and they will tell you no, but they obviously are. Being in an altered state of consciousness is going to negatively affect you in some way. That is a fact, not conjecture. Perhaps not in the same way as alcohol, but it impaired you in some way.

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In what way does MJ impair your driving ability, reaction time, etc. compared to alcohol?


Well, let me say that I have never driven drunk. Was too scared, because I knew my vision was totally different,and my functions were not great. When I used to smoke I would drive. My reactions and driving ability were not hindered the slightest. That is my experience though.


Yeah, but when you are under the influence you don't know how impaired you are. Its the people who look at you that can tell you are high or drunk. So you may have not gotten caught, but that doesn't mean your reactions were not impaired. Some people do manage to beat the odds...


I think that is a pretty subjective arguement. I know exactly how impaired I was when I smoked or drank. Also, people didn't know if I was high or drunk, been there done that, and in some really sticky situations. Its not about beating the odds, but knowing the limits. Smoking also has limits.


I have seen guys who were falling down drunk yet swear they are just a little buzzed. Impaired judgment means just that. You think everything is fine, but because your judgment is impaired, you are unable to distinguish when you have crossed the limit. Drunks think they are walking straight and talking without slurring. They don't realize how bad they really are.

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Well, let me say that I have never driven drunk. Was too scared, because I knew my vision was totally different,and my functions were not great. When I used to smoke I would drive. My reactions and driving ability were not hindered the slightest. That is my experience though.


You don't know that and are unable to make that judgment call. Ask anyone who is drunk and trying to drive if their abilities are impaired and they will tell you no, but they obviously are. Being in an altered state of consciousness is going to negatively affect you in some way. That is a fact, not conjecture. Perhaps not in the same way as alcohol, but it impaired you in some way.


I'm speaking facts. I understand what both did to my body, I'm speaking from experience. I knew exacty why I should not and would not drink and drive. I'm just saying my experience with smoking.

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I have seen guys who were falling down drunk yet swear they are just a little buzzed. Impaired judgment means just that. You think everything is fine, but because your judgment is impaired, you are unable to distinguish when you have crossed the limit. Drunks think they are walking straight and talking without slurring. They don't realize how bad they really are.


Notice your argument, is concerning drinking and not smoking. But all in all no need to go on, I'm just stating my experience.

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Notice your argument, is concerning drinking and not smoking. But all in all no need to go on, I'm just stating my experience.


just wondering, why do you think you are capable of making a good judgment call on this knowing that pot affects the mind?


What effects. You mean the reefer madness propaganda. Like I said, been there done that, I'm talking from experience, not from what I have heard or assume.

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The Denny's in my town is the local hangout for skin heads, pot smokers, gang bangers and some other pretty rough folks like bikers and such. I thought it was just a local thing. Is this true of other Denny's as well?


our Denny's is the hang out of the AARP crowd.


Same here in the Portland area doing the days and early evening, the kids drop in after last call, about 2:00 AM....

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What effects. You mean the reefer madness propaganda. Like I said, been there done that, I'm talking from experience, not from what I have heard or assume.


I am speaking from experience also, a small amount of pot had a much larger effect on me than a small amount of booze.

and it is not propaganda, it is scientific fact the effect that pot has on both the brain and the body.


I'm sure could both dredge up some info, but no need. The word fact is used rather loosely concerning the effects of MJ. But as I said I'm speaking of my own personal experience.




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