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http://www.washingto...martin-reports/

Yeap.

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Good, that was an excellent case of intentially lousy reporting and made the chancws of him getting a fair trial slim

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Good, that was an excellent case of intentionally lousy reporting and made the chances of him getting a fair trial slim


I'll add that even if he's found innocent his life is pretty much wrecked anyway after what the media pulled. I hope he wins a huge enough award that it hits the network in the only place they care about: the wallet.

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I hope he doesnt win anything. While I do agree that the media did a terrible job, and wanted to make this into a race war, I still believe that it is due to his foolish acts that Martin is dead.

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I think the media needs to be held to account for deliberate false reporting. Who will do this aside from the court of litigation ?

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I hope he doesnt win anything. While I do agree that the media did a terrible job, and wanted to make this into a race war, I still believe that it is due to his foolish acts that Martin is dead.


It doesnt matter if he was guilty, two wrongs dont make a right. What the media did is wrong, and he is an american and garenteed a fair trial-which now is next to impossible to do. And what if your wrong-what if Zimmerman was in the right? now, even if found innocent-like walla said, his life will have that shadow brought over him. Even if Zimmerman was in the wrong, he is still supposed to have a fair trial, and the media twisting the facts like that is wrong. The media needs to be held in account, if zimmerman is guilty, so does he, but its not fair to judge a man from someone elses wrong actions-which is what a good portion of America, has been doing. Judgement based on a lie, which is what the media did-distorting the truth is a lie-is not a fair judgement, Zimmerman needs a fair trial, not one where the jury is made up of people who are going in already biased against the guy thanks to the media. If you were in his shoes, you wouldnt like it either.

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I hope he doesnt win anything. While I do agree that the media did a terrible job, and wanted to make this into a race war, I still believe that it is due to his foolish acts that Martin is dead.


It doesnt matter if he was guilty, two wrongs dont make a right. What the media did is wrong, and he is an american and garenteed a fair trial-which now is next to impossible to do. And what if your wrong-what if Zimmerman was in the right? now, even if found innocent-like walla said, his life will have that shadow brought over him. Even if Zimmerman was in the wrong, he is still supposed to have a fair trial, and the media twisting the facts like that is wrong. The media needs to be held in account, if zimmerman is guilty, so does he, but its not fair to judge a man from someone elses wrong actions-which is what a good portion of America, has been doing. Judgement based on a lie, which is what the media did-distorting the truth is a lie-is not a fair judgement, Zimmerman needs a fair trial, not one where the jury is made up of people who are going in already biased against the guy thanks to the media. If you were in his shoes, you wouldnt like it either.


Yep, many Americans deserve a fair trial but don't get it. So I don't feel sorry for him in that aspect.

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so, just because other americans dont get a fair trial, its ok not to give him one? thats pretty cold hearted. Im sorry, but just because other americans didnt get what they deserved doesnt make it right for him not to-if two wrongs dont make a right, neither do 3.

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so, just because other americans dont get a fair trial, its ok not to give him one? thats pretty cold hearted. Im sorry, but just because other americans didnt get what they deserved doesnt make it right for him not to-if two wrongs dont make a right, neither do 3.


Naah, I'm just using your terms. You said he is American, so he should get a fair trail. In that case I don't feel sorry for him. He should get a fair trial because that is what the law says and for no other reason. Like I said I don't feel sorry for him because he is and American. I don't feel sorry for him at all. Honestly how do we know he wont get a fair trial. He hasn't had a trial yet.

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because, because of that horrible media story, that left out half the facts, (like the fact that he did show signs of being attacked) and twisted the ones they did post. It created so much controversey, that by now, everyone, like you, is already biased for, or against Zimmerman, and it would be hard to find a jury that isnt biased one way or the other. A jury, preferably, is made up of people that have no prior knowledge of the person being accused-that way, it helps remove biases, because biases cloud judgement. In this case, finding a group of such people is next to impossible-if the jury is made up of people who already think hes guilty, then they will go in thinking hes guilty, and even if he is innocent, the jury view is going to be very biased against him, and could very well end up sending a innocent man to prison.

The reverse is also true, if the jury is all biased in thinking hes innocent, then again they will go in with a tainted view-and hes actually guilty, then theres the risk of letting a guilty man free.

The only way to really "ensure" a fair trial right now is to try and split it down the middle-find half the jury who is biased against, and half who is biased for. The problem with that is it could end in a deadlock and create a mess, so no matter the outcome, a biased jury isnt justice, I dont care which way its biased for. Even if the jury goes in biased that hes guilty, and he actually is guilty, its still not justice-because they will send him to jail not because of the evidence or what he actually did, but because they are biased, which isnt justice.

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The media slandared Zimmerman and purposesly tried to paint it has a race incident before any evidence was in, and one person tried to doctor the 911 recording to that end. NBC should have book thrown at them. What they did was essentially slander and libel. Martin wasn't some innocent black kid skipping down the street eating skittles and it was Martin who started the brawl.

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I would ask you, how do you know who started the fight?



With one of the two parties dead, we'll never know for sure. One has to judge simply on the credibility of Zimmerman's testimony.

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I heard that Martin was just jogging through a Gated Community for exercise just like alot of folks do. I mean sure, he was wearing a dark colored hoodie, there had been previous break-ins in the community, and he was acting suspiciously. What's that supposed to mean anyway? Of course Zimmerman is guilty and a racist. I mean, it wasn't like he was hired as a Security Officer for the community or anything like that. Afterall, he did make a big deal out of Martins race when he reported the incident, :44: as was required by law. He deserves not only a broken nose, a huge gash to his head, and a threat to his life, but also to lose his livelyhood and reputration for the rest of his life, as well as, to be summarily jailed. :duh: :doh: :crosseyed:


In fact, forget the law! We need Social Justice and we need it now! I am my brothers Savior!

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I would ask you, how do you know who started the fight?



With one of the two parties dead, we'll never know for sure. One has to judge simply on the credibility of Zimmerman's testimony.


This is very true. When judging the credibility of Zimmerman's testimony, does that mean that one must also judge the credibility of Zimmerman?



Could you be a bit more specific?

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I would ask you, how do you know who started the fight?



With one of the two parties dead, we'll never know for sure. One has to judge simply on the credibility of Zimmerman's testimony.


This is very true. When judging the credibility of Zimmerman's testimony, does that mean that one must also judge the credibility of Zimmerman?



Could you be a bit more specific?


In your opinion, are Zimmerman's actions both before and after the event but not tied directly to that night fair game in determining his credibility



How much before? That's like saying if he told a lie when he was 10 years old, it means he's lying now.

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The media slandared Zimmerman and purposesly tried to paint it has a race incident before any evidence was in, and one person tried to doctor the 911 recording to that end. NBC should have book thrown at them. What they did was essentially slander and libel. Martin wasn't some innocent black kid skipping down the street eating skittles and it was Martin who started the brawl.


You just did the exact same you blame the media for with lines like your last sentence. What Martin was or wasn't has no bearing on anything. And it is your assumption that Martin started anything. But lets keep it on track. You are correct that the media tried to make it into a racial killing when it wasn't one. That was the biggest issue, and what made the story swell. It should have never been a race issue.

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I heard that Martin was just jogging through a Gated Community for exercise just like alot of folks do. I mean sure, he was wearing a dark colored hoodie, there had been previous break-ins in the community, and he was acting suspiciously. What's that supposed to mean anyway? Of course Zimmerman is guilty and a racist. I mean, it wasn't like he was hired as a Security Officer for the community or anything like that. Afterall, he did make a big deal out of Martins race when he reported the incident, :44: as was required by law. He deserves not only a broken nose, a huge gash to his head, and a threat to his life, but also to lose his livelyhood and reputration for the rest of his life, as well as, to be summarily jailed. :duh: :doh: :crosseyed:


In fact, forget the law! We need Social Justice and we need it now! I am my brothers Savior!


Eh...what is this about. You do realize that Martin had every right to be there because his fathers girlfriend lived there right? Or have you overlooked that fact?

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no im not making the same assumption, nor am I saying who was in the right. Im saying, the media took it, left off half the facts, and twisted the ones left to make Zimmerman to look like this big, racial murderer who killed martin just because he was black. Add into that the lousy police investigation, and it turns into a mess. Im saying, regardless of whether or not zimmerman was guilty or not, the media has turned it into such a fiasco it would be difficult for Zimmerman to get a fair trial, regardless, and that thats not right-the media, in all their stupidity, has pretty much trampled over Zimmermans rights, which are he is innocent until proven guilty, and he has a right to a fair trial by a jury of his peers.

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I heard that Martin was just jogging through a Gated Community for exercise just like alot of folks do. I mean sure, he was wearing a dark colored hoodie, there had been previous break-ins in the community, and he was acting suspiciously. What's that supposed to mean anyway? Of course Zimmerman is guilty and a racist. I mean, it wasn't like he was hired as a Security Officer for the community or anything like that. Afterall, he did make a big deal out of Martins race when he reported the incident, :44: as was required by law. He deserves not only a broken nose, a huge gash to his head, and a threat to his life, but also to lose his livelyhood and reputration for the rest of his life, as well as, to be summarily jailed. :duh: :doh: :crosseyed:


In fact, forget the law! We need Social Justice and we need it now! I am my brothers Savior!


Eh...what is this about. You do realize that Martin had every right to be there because his fathers girlfriend lived there right? Or have you overlooked that fact?


I personally think Zimmerman should hang. He's obviously a racist pig. :whistling:

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I heard that Martin was just jogging through a Gated Community for exercise just like alot of folks do. I mean sure, he was wearing a dark colored hoodie, there had been previous break-ins in the community, and he was acting suspiciously. What's that supposed to mean anyway? Of course Zimmerman is guilty and a racist. I mean, it wasn't like he was hired as a Security Officer for the community or anything like that. Afterall, he did make a big deal out of Martins race when he reported the incident, :44: as was required by law. He deserves not only a broken nose, a huge gash to his head, and a threat to his life, but also to lose his livelyhood and reputration for the rest of his life, as well as, to be summarily jailed. :duh: :doh: :crosseyed:


In fact, forget the law! We need Social Justice and we need it now! I am my brothers Savior!


Eh...what is this about. You do realize that Martin had every right to be there because his fathers girlfriend lived there right? Or have you overlooked that fact?


I personally think Zimmerman should hang. He's obviously a racist pig. :whistling:


Wow Dave very mature of you. Hope we actually discuss this without the outlandish sarcasm, or am I expecting too much. Once again. You do realize that Martin had every right to be there because his Father's girlfriend lived there right?




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