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I agree!! :thumbsup:

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If he's unhappy with the tax situation, perhaps he should move to somewhere with a different tax level; or campaign for a party that would lower the tax rate where he lives, anyway remember who prints the the money in his wallet.

Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? 15Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it. 16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. 17And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

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I agree!! :thumbsup:

what does the majority have the right to do just because they voted for it?

They elected Obama and cronies to penalize the rich for being rich because as everyone knows all rich people are evil.

But what the unwashed masses who voted for Obama don't know is that forcing the rich to pay more on account of being rich doesn't mean more money in the pockets of the little guy. It means more revenue for the cronies in DC to waste on stupid liberal/socialist programs.

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I agree!! :thumbsup:

what does the majority have the right to do just because they voted for it?

They elected Obama and cronies to penalize the rich for being rich because as everyone knows all rich people are evil.

But what the unwashed masses who voted for Obama don't know is that forcing the rich to pay more on account of being rich doesn't mean more money in the pockets of the little guy. It means more revenue for the cronies in DC to waste on stupid liberal/socialist programs.

What programs do you think they will continue to waste thier money on?

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If he's unhappy with the tax situation, perhaps he should move to somewhere with a different tax level; or campaign for a party that would lower the tax rate where he lives, anyway remember who prints the the money in his wallet.

If liberals and socialist cronies want to pay more in taxes, then they are free to send the gov't more of their own money. They do not have the right to tell the rest of us how much of our money we are allowed to keep.

If socialism is grand, then they should move to socialist nations and live where people see things as they do instead of imposing socialistic nonsense on decent people who enjoy freedom and not the ball and chain of gov't controlling every aspect of our lives.

Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? 15Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it. 16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. 17And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

That is a perversion of Scripture,amor. Jesus was exposing their hypocrisy. They were trying to catch Jesus in a trap. They asked Jesus if it was lawful to pay taxes to Caesar. But what they were referring to was the poll or imperial tax that went to fund the festivals that were used in worship of Caesar as a god. If Jesus said, "yes" He could be stoned for blasphemy. If He said no, He could be crucifed as an enemy of the state.

Jesus had them bring out a Denarius that had Caesar's image on it. But graven images were forbidden in the Temple. That they were able to produce the image of what amounts to a pagan god in the temple precincts shows to whom their loyalty was. It shows to whom they they were paying taxes and thus exposed their hypocrisy.

Jesus said, "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." The point was, It's all God's. Everything belongs to God.

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Let's be frank here. Votes are being bought, albeit with government money. If you vote for a politician who literally promises you a government check, or an increase in your government check, your vote is being brought. The only difference in this and a politician writing them a check out of their own bank account is that the politician gets this service for free. I never saw the reasoning behind allowing people who are receiving literal cash or individual benefits in lieu of cash from the government to vote. Their reasoning is most obviously going to be clouded and their judgement is going to be based on a bribe, not on a belief in maintaining a strong republic.

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Government is their God and their belly's are their conscience.

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If he's unhappy with the tax situation, perhaps he should move to somewhere with a different tax level;

He answered this in the link:

"SCHIFF: You know what the wealthy are going to do? They're going to invest more abroad, they're not going to work as hard, they're not going to pay as much in taxes, they're not going to employ as many people. Their employees are going to pay all the taxes."

Encouraging the rich to do this as the solution to their complaining is going to make life worse for the poor, the low income, the middle class, and the nation's economy as a whole.

or campaign for a party that would lower the tax rate where he lives,

What makes you think he did not already do this?

anyway remember who prints the the money in his wallet.

Printed money isn't how wealth is stored. You should know this.

Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? 15Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it. 16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. 17And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

Any dictator can throw that Scripture out as manipulative tactic to control the population - the same way abusive husbands throw out the "wives submit to your husbands" verse to justify their abusive behavior and control their wives to take the beatings without complaint.

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Government is their God and their belly's are their conscience.

Yes, this is the trouble with the direction things are heading. Government is being set up as "god", but so many are blind to this. :(

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If he's unhappy with the tax situation, perhaps he should move to somewhere with a different tax level; or campaign for a party that would lower the tax rate where he lives, anyway remember who prints the the money in his wallet.

If liberals and socialist cronies want to pay more in taxes, then they are free to send the gov't more of their own money. They do not have the right to tell the rest of us how much of our money we are allowed to keep.

If socialism is grand, then they should move to socialist nations and live where people see things as they do instead of imposing socialistic nonsense on decent people who enjoy freedom and not the ball and chain of gov't controlling every aspect of our lives.

isnt that sort of how our system works...people vote and the thing/person with the most vote wins?

not saying that I want socalism, just asking about the voting aspect of if that the OP brought up.

Liberals used activist judges to throw out measures that were passed by people who wanted marriage to remain between a man and a woman. But when liberals get their garbage passed, we are supposed to submit 'cause that's how the system works?? Yeah, right.

If liberals don't think they pay enough taxes, they are free to pull out their check book and write out a check and send it to the government so that they can feel that they are paying the right amount of taxes.

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Whether in paper or electronic form this man's wealth is measured in US$'S a creation of the American government.

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As to the "great unwashed" comment is this not an unpleasant and insulting way to speak of other people, your fellow citizens. It shows a lack of respect for people who have the temerity to disagree with you politically.

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Whether in paper or electronic form this man's wealth is measured in US$'S a creation of the American government.

That isn't how "money" works at the investment level - the place where true wealth is generated.

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...And stealing is exactly what it is. I have given no consent for the removal of my wealth, therefore I am being robbed.

Shiloh@

Jesus was exposing their hypocrisy. They were trying to catch Jesus in a trap. They asked Jesus if it was lawful to pay taxes to Caesar. But what they were referring to was the poll or imperial tax that went to fund the festivals that were used in worship of Caesar as a god. If Jesus said, "yes" He could be stoned for blasphemy. If He said no, He could be crucifed as an enemy of the state.

Jesus had them bring out a Denarius that had Caesar's image on it. But graven images were forbidden in the Temple. That they were able to produce the image of what amounts to a pagan god in the temple precincts shows to whom their loyalty was. It shows to whom they they were paying taxes and thus exposed their hypocrisy.

Jesus said, "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." The point was, It's all God's. Everything belongs to God.

This says it all. I'm sick, and tired of this passage being used as justification to rob me. The government is no different from the gangster who demands tribute in the neighborhood for my "safety". Both use the same threats to extort. Gangsters, governments..no difference.

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Whether in paper or electronic form this man's wealth is measured in US$'S a creation of the American government.

The problem here is that you don't create wealth by printing money, amor. When there is nothing to back up the currency it is just a worthless piece of paper. There has to be enough gold behind the currency you print. If you print more than can be supported you are on your way to a really bad economy.

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As to the "great unwashed" comment is this not an unpleasant and insulting way to speak of other people, your fellow citizens. It shows a lack of respect for people who have the temerity to disagree with you politically.

It is completely true and accurate when you consider what they want. They want a different America and there are those of us who are not going to sit by and let them have it. We are not gong to let a bunch of rubes wreck our country and turn it into a socialist nation. I don't respect socialism and I don't respect those who want to make America into a socialist/communist nation.

They should move over and live in your neighborhood amor. Your such a fan of socialism and paying for worthless lazy people who want to live on the government dime, we will send them over to you and let YOU pay for their food, houses, cars, medical care. You take care of them and the rest of us will do just fine.

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I'll tell you what is contemptable. Some would breed galleys full of slaves rather than halls full of Liberated men.

What's contemptable is to stand by and watch lies repeated to the shame of a Nation.

What's contemptable is to breed men for hell under the lie that Government is their God and their person stands for nothing more than a full belly at the cost of the labor of another man. We will all reap poverty for the contemptable lies being sown.

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Only 27% of the elegible voters voted for Obama...... The trouble with this country isn't greed or laziness, it's apathy. The majority of the people really just didn't give a tinkers dam one way or the other. Maybe when "the man" comes to take their things away people will get involved...... in the mean time keep in mind that the Conservative party couldn't get ony of that 48% of the voters, who didn't vote, attention to even go vote........... and that's the problem with this country......

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How many Christians (millions by the way) did not want to vote for the Mormon stayed home...and let the Muslim/Marxist slid on in...

You're not going to change the politicians..they know which side of the bread their butter is on...the (47% and growing) parasites will continue to vote for those who will feed them....with the changing demographics in America this was your last chance.

All the times I was in Europe I always missed going to Greece...now I'll be able to drive there :biggrin2::horse:

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As Margaret Thatcher once said, "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

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The whole trouble is spending. WE all could work and give 100% of our money to the Government, and if they spent 101%, we would still be in trouble.

The Government is no different then any of us who have to learn to live within our means. The Government needs to look at where our money is going and decide if it is a need or just a want. Get rid of the wants and support just the needs and we will do fine. The only problem I see with this resolve is that we need to have mature people in Government, mature enough to know the difference between a need and a want.

I think the spending problem could be resolved if those holding the purse strings had to be financially responsible for their spending. If there was financial consequences for being wasteful, spending would be far more conservative and only necessary programs and organizations would be paid for. Earmarks, for the most part, would go down the tubes. If you want $120,000 to spend for teaching monkeys how to drive a car, get a job or find a private donor.

The reason we can't get a balanced budget is that liberals are only concerned with the revenue side of a budget and refuse to do anything serious about the spending side. For liberals, it's not about balancing the budget; it's about having more money to spend.

Another way to deter spending more than was we have is to make a law stating no riders on any bills.They would have to vote for each request separately.

I guess requiring them to fork over their own money for bad money management is certainly a deter to doing so. They also would not be allowed to file bankruptcy.

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I would really like someone to answer the premise of the OP rather than derail it.

Is Mr. Schiff right? Does the majority have the right to steal over half of his money just because they voted in favor of it?

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I would really like someone to answer the premise of the OP rather than derail it.

Is Mr. Schiff right? Does the majority have the right to steal over half of his money just because they voted in favor of it?

I have split this topic into a new thread here:

Sorry about that Matthitjah.

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I would really like someone to answer the premise of the OP rather than derail it.

Is Mr. Schiff right? Does the majority have the right to steal over half of his money just because they voted in favor of it?

As long as the house votes for it and the senate and president approves, yes they do have the right to do so according to our constitution

should it be so.... well that's a different question. If we don't like it we'll have to change the constitution, and to do that you'll have to get a large part of that 48% that doesn't vote into the voting booth..... and to do that, you have to make it worth their while... and to do that you'll have to make them all pay taxes..... which going over the cliff will help by making many of them pay some tax.

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