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That is a touching story, but not sure what it has to do with the idea that one needs to be a right wing extremist to be a "good" Christian.

Since no one mentioned Right Wing Extremism I'm not certain at all what you are spouting off about.

What was mentioned was a Godly worldview.

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Perhaps another passage should be considered is:

Prov. 6:16-19

16 These six things the Lord hates,

Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:

17 A proud look,

A lying tongue,

Hands that shed innocent blood,

18 A heart that devises wicked plans,

Feet that are swift in running to evil,

19 A false witness who speaks lies,

And one who sows discord among brethren.

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And yet another thought that may sound familiar...

To all:

God’s Word says all things are lawful but not all things are helpful. All things are lawful but not all things edify.

1 Cor. 10:23

23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify.

1 Cor. 6:12

12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

Also God’s Word says the following… A reminder…

2 Tim. 2:14-17a

14 Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer.

To avoid…

2 Tim. 2:23-26

23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

Be Blessed Beloved Brothers and Sisters.

In Christ,

GE

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Amen golden, excellent verses, one that I think everyone here, right or left should take into mind before continuing this discussion.

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That is a touching story, but not sure what it has to do with the idea that one needs to be a right wing extremist to be a "good" Christian.

Since no one mentioned Right Wing Extremism I'm not certain at all what you are spouting off about.

What was mentioned was a Godly worldview.

A Godly worldview does not have a direction attached to it, it is neither left nor right.

Yet on this thread and this forum if you are not a far right extremist you are not Godly and a Christian in name only

I haven't heard that expressed. What I have heard expressed is that anyone who supports and promotes Homosexual Marriage, Abortion on demand at anytime in gestation to include immediately after birth, and Social Justice as expressed in the popular movement of the day wherein we take, by force, from some and give to others in a Redistributive fashion, is most likely not aligned with Godly values.

Unless you want to defend those practices I'm still not sure what you are spouting off about.

The thread is about why certain folks who are Christian hold the Worldview that they do.

Why do Christians see things the way that they do and align their lives in such a fashion? Care to explain why Abortion is abhorrent to us? How about Homosexual Marriage? How about legalized theft?

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If you are a professing Christian, you have an obligation to think out your worldview. You are pledged by your covenant with the God of the Bible to learn His ways and to follow Him (John 10:27). If you are going to follow Christ, then you need to be aware of how God wants you to view the world, and you need to learn to live by His worldview.

Historically, the Christian Worldview has been determined by the answers to two questions: What is Truth? Why are we alive? These are the two most basic questions that can be asked about human existence. Of course, for us to even ask these questions flies in the face of the common modern worldviews, which deny the existence of Truth, Purpose, and Direction in the universe. For us to say, “these questions make sense,” presupposes the Christian Worldview.

(Bible.org)

Of course there is a Christian worldview...the Bible spells it out very clearly.....that is where Christians should be getting their worldview

and it isn't political

I cannot imagine thinking there is no Biblical worldview .....that would be a contradiction in terms

If the Bible does not indicate how we should live in this world, than we are lost...then, we might ask ourselves "Just what DO we believe and

does what we believe even matter?

Actually, Thou shalt not begins a definition that is impossible to refute and continues right through to the end of the NT

with right and wrong in every single book.....I fail to see why someone would align this with extreme right leanings unless

they had their own agenda.....

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If you are a professing Christian, you have an obligation to think out your worldview. You are pledged by your covenant with the God of the Bible to learn His ways and to follow Him (John 10:27). If you are going to follow Christ, then you need to be aware of how God wants you to view the world, and you need to learn to live by His worldview.

Historically, the Christian Worldview has been determined by the answers to two questions: What is Truth? Why are we alive? These are the two most basic questions that can be asked about human existence. Of course, for us to even ask these questions flies in the face of the common modern worldviews, which deny the existence of Truth, Purpose, and Direction in the universe. For us to say, “these questions make sense,” presupposes the Christian Worldview.

(Bible.org)

Of course there is a Christian worldview...the Bible spells it out very clearly.....that is where Christians should be getting their worldview

and it isn't political

I cannot imagine thinking there is no Biblical worldview .....that would be a contradiction in terms

If the Bible does not indicate how we should live in this world, than we are lost...then, we might ask ourselves "Just what DO we believe and

does what we believe even matter?

Actually, Thou shalt not begins a definition that is impossible to refute and continues right through to the end of the NT

with right and wrong in every single book.....I fail to see why someone would align this with extreme right leanings unless

they had their own agenda.....

Actually, those on the Right, in the U.S. as we define it, would be more closely aligned with Godly values, albeit not perfectly aligned.

It is the Left that sought to toss God out of its platform and to resign Israel to the ash heap of history.

I'm saddened to see so many in the Body align themselves with anti-christ ideals. It means that we are alot closer than we thought.

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If you are a professing Christian, you have an obligation to think out your worldview. You are pledged by your covenant with the God of the Bible to learn His ways and to follow Him (John 10:27). If you are going to follow Christ, then you need to be aware of how God wants you to view the world, and you need to learn to live by His worldview.

Historically, the Christian Worldview has been determined by the answers to two questions: What is Truth? Why are we alive? These are the two most basic questions that can be asked about human existence. Of course, for us to even ask these questions flies in the face of the common modern worldviews, which deny the existence of Truth, Purpose, and Direction in the universe. For us to say, “these questions make sense,” presupposes the Christian Worldview.

(Bible.org)

Of course there is a Christian worldview...the Bible spells it out very clearly.....that is where Christians should be getting their worldview

and it isn't political

I cannot imagine thinking there is no Biblical worldview .....that would be a contradiction in terms

If the Bible does not indicate how we should live in this world, than we are lost...then, we might ask ourselves "Just what DO we believe and

does what we believe even matter?

Actually, Thou shalt not begins a definition that is impossible to refute and continues right through to the end of the NT

with right and wrong in every single book.....I fail to see why someone would align this with extreme right leanings unless

they had their own agenda.....

You make a good point, I was mistaken to say it has no direction, just that it is not a left or right direction. It is an up towards God and an in towards the Holy Spirit direction

God is not a Repub or a Conservative

I don't think anyone has ever said that here.

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I don't think anyone has ever said that here.

it is implied by many

Please support your assertions. Please give an example of someone stating that God is a Republican.

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I don't think anyone has ever said that here.

it is implied by many

Please support your assertions.

That is a touching story, but not sure what it has to do with the idea that one needs to be a right wing extremist to be a "good" Christian.

Since no one mentioned Right Wing Extremism I'm not certain at all what you are spouting off about.

What was mentioned was a Godly worldview.

A Godly worldview does not have a direction attached to it, it is neither left nor right.

Yet on this thread and this forum if you are not a far right extremist you are not Godly and a Christian in name only

I haven't heard that expressed. What I have heard expressed is that anyone who supports and promotes Homosexual Marriage, Abortion on demand at anytime in gestation to include immediately after birth, and Social Justice as expressed in the popular movement of the day wherein we take, by force, from some and give to others in a Redistributive fashion, is most likely not aligned with Godly values.

Unless you want to defend those practices I'm still not sure what you are spouting off about.

The thread is about why certain folks who are Christian hold the Worldview that they do.

Why do Christians see things the way that they do and align their lives in such a fashion? Care to explain why Abortion is abhorrent to us? How about Homosexual Marriage? How about legalized theft?

And I have never seen anyone do any of the above, and yet there are still those on here that have their very salvation questioned, their devotion go God questioned by another human for no reason other than they think differently.

I've actually seen folks defend Redistribution of Wealth here. They believe an abhorrent heresy called Liberation Theology.

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I don't think anyone has ever said that here.

it is implied by many

Please support your assertions.

Read this thread, I is obvious to anyone with an objective point of view

I see, so your opinion is "the objective view" then?

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... there are still those on here that have their very salvation questioned, their devotion go God questioned by another human for no reason other than they think differently.

Gator, this is not true. As was stated previously, the questioning of where one is with the Lord has been based on the one defending such abominations as abortion and homosexuality, not an arbitrary "thinks differently."

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yet another case of "if you dont think like me you are wrong".

how do people get your heads through the doors at your churches? :mellow:

Well, I was raised in an unashamedly Marxist household. So I know whereof I speak. You confuse rectitude with arrogance. And seem capable of doing so with an overweaning arrogance based on nothing more than proud ignorance of the topic.

I could be wrong; but let me guess: Not much of a student of Marxist Philosophy? You just swallow it sans critical investigation? Don't feel bad; you are in the company lf all the millions and millions who DO end up swallowing from that putrid fountain, who do so because they also have failed in their critical investigation.

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... there are still those on here that have their very salvation questioned, their devotion go God questioned by another human for no reason other than they think differently.

Gator, this is not true. As was stated previously, the questioning of where one is with the Lord has been based on the one defending such abominations as abortion and homosexuality, not an arbitrary "thinks differently."

I have never defended either and yet have more than once had my salvation questioned...because I think differently than the majority on here

I haven't seen anyone ever question your salvation. What has been said is that if you adhere to certain perspectives that there is no possible way you could be following Christ. This should bother you if it were true, if it isn't, I'm not sure what's getting your goat.

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... there are still those on here that have their very salvation questioned, their devotion go God questioned by another human for no reason other than they think differently.

Gator, this is not true. As was stated previously, the questioning of where one is with the Lord has been based on the one defending such abominations as abortion and homosexuality, not an arbitrary "thinks differently."

I have never defended either and yet have more than once had my salvation questioned...because I think differently than the majority on here

I haven't seen anyone ever question your salvation. What has been said is that if you adhere to certain perspectives that there is no possible way you could be following Christ. This should bother you if it were true, if it isn't, I'm not sure what's getting your goat.

It's not me I don't like goats :happyhappy:
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Well, here's another quote from our friend, Running Gator, which shows how thoroughly some people can misunderstand a topic, and still willingly opine on it, to wit:

"A Godly worldview does not have a direction attached to it, it is neither left nor right.

Yet on this thread and this forum if you are not a far right extremist you are not Godly and a Christian in name only"

The scope and depth of misunderstandings here are both very great, so one hardly knows where to begin. Well, let's start at the start: "A Godly (sic) worldview does not have a direction attached to it...." WRONG! "He will hear a voice behind him when he turns to the right hand or to the left, saying: 'This is the way; walk ye in it."

Care to try for Double Jeopardy, where the stakes are even higher?

"Yet on this thread and this forum if you are not a far right extremist you are not Godly and a Christian in name only" STEEEEEERIKE TWO! "Left" AND "Right" properly refer to how disciples of Hegel interpreted Hegelian teaching. The early Communists (and most still today) made much of Hegel. Some people were big on interpreting Hegel's spiritual thought as well. Those who took the secular route were called "Left Wing" and those who saw Hegel's spiritual side were known as 'Right Wing.' These were titles used in shorthand in academia, especially in France, Austria, and Germany. So BOTH Left and Right refer to how people used Hegelian Dialectic. Stalin ca. 1935 put out to all loyal Communists that henceforth, those who believed in INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISM HEADED FROM MOSCOW would be known as 'Left wing' while those who believed in NATIONAL SOCIALISM for each independent nation would be referred to as 'Right wing.' Of course COMINTERN's willing stenographers--better known as the mainstream press--immediatly began following Stalin's orders.

So the truth is, that here at Worthy Boards, few of us could be called either Left or Right wingers, because most of us here reject Hegelian dialectics altogether.

Please learn a tad more before trying to take me on! Arrogant ranting will NOT get you past the facts of history, philosophy, and Bible, here at Worthy!

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I have nothing more to say to one so supremely self-assured. Fare well. You may well learn smething some day.

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