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Newtown, CT: AR-15 left in the car (?)

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According to this report, 4 handguns were recovered in the school, and the AR-15 "assault" rifle was left in the car.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

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theyre yelling to ban assault rifles because of this shooting, and the funny thing was it was left in the car. And lets not forget the fact that an AR-15 is technically not a assault rifle to begin with. . .

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There are several things that don't add up about the whole thing(similar to other mass shootings). The rifle, the other person/people(heard there were 2 others) possibly involved-- nothing on that after first reports, guess they were figments of imagination(?), news medias ever changing tales & putting the focus on banning guns.

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some things are understandable, in a shooting like that its easy for some details to get confused-like number of shooters, etc. easy to do in the confusion, it really is. But, after a day or so, the stories should become consistent because the facts are out there. But when theyre constantly changing after that short time, and then theyre trying to shift the focus entirely onto guns, then yes there is a problem.

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But there was a man arrested who was in the woods behind the school. What happened to him?

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maybe he just happened to be in the woods? and not connected just a coincidence maybe? or maybe the medias covering something up. Who knows.

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yeah..you are right ..Patriot.

They do need to give out the correct information at this time...

If he had no assult weapon as he did the shootings as the news is now saying , then he must have had others gumen with him to do the shootings.

Most all those who were shot, each had multiple gun shot wounds.

Adam couldn't do all that alone in such a short period of time...with a hand gun.

Only if he used an assult weapon.

The bullets they removed from the bodies should have indicated what type of gun that was use .

That was solved ...now its a different story .. ? humm

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actually what they are saying is two semi-automatic handguns, which can actually fire faster then a single semi-automatic rifle (notice I said semi-auto rifle as an AR-15 is not an assault rifle) and can actually, with practice, put multiple rounds through each victim quickly and efficiency, and allow him to move on to the next. Add spare mags into that, and ya, its very believable, if not more so then a single semi-auto rifle.

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But, the bullets they took out of the people indicated it was from the rifle.

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maybe he just happened to be in the woods? and not connected just a coincidence maybe? or maybe the medias covering something up. Who knows.

That's the thing - usually, reports would follow up on the story. Was he found to be innocent, for instance?

Why was there no follow-up?

And why is it hard to find the initial reports that mentioned him?

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So, I searched to find information on this, and I found out there's a video of a student mentioning seeing a man on the ground in handcuffs.

(This could not have been the man taken from the woods who was seen walking out of the woods handcuffed.)

I also came across another message board where someone posted a program that played the actual police communication at the time - a officer reported a teacher having seen "two shadows" pass the window. Later the officer says, "They are coming at me." Followed by, "We got 'em."

I don't like chasing conspiracies, but this situation is staring me in the face too much.

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But, the bullets they took out of the people indicated it was from the rifle.

Where are you finding this information? from what Im seeing they havent released that information yet, and whats out there are conflicting reports. I read one article that said it was pistols and there was a AR-15 in the trunk, another said he used the AR-15 and it was a saiga in the trunk.

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Can you spell A-G-E-N-D-A?

Don't forget that this Government is the one that was funneling assault weapons and guns across the border into Mexico in a clear A-G-E-N-D-A driven policy in order to cause a panic and to instill a popular sentiment for more gun control.

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But, the bullets they took out of the people indicated it was from the rifle.

Where are you finding this information? from what Im seeing they havent released that information yet, and whats out there are conflicting reports. I read one article that said it was pistols and there was a AR-15 in the trunk, another said he used the AR-15 and it was a saiga in the trunk.

Maybe you can google it...the interview of the doctor that removed the bullets out of the victims.

It was on t.v. news.

He said he took several bullets 4-5 out of each person. That the bullets were from an assult weapon.

I will try to get the interview. That was about a week ago...on t.v.

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So, I searched to find information on this, and I found out there's a video of a student mentioning seeing a man on the ground in handcuffs.

(This could not have been the man taken from the woods who was seen walking out of the woods handcuffed.)

I also came across another message board where someone posted a program that played the actual police communication at the time - a officer reported a teacher having seen "two shadows" pass the window. Later the officer says, "They are coming at me." Followed by, "We got 'em."

I don't like chasing conspiracies, but this situation is staring me in the face too much.

You are right ..neb...

I heard it myself when it all happened on t.v. that there were 2 gunmen.

They interviewed a young boy with his father..at the scene...the boy said there were 2 men with guns.

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But, the bullets they took out of the people indicated it was from the rifle.

Where are you finding this information? from what Im seeing they havent released that information yet, and whats out there are conflicting reports. I read one article that said it was pistols and there was a AR-15 in the trunk, another said he used the AR-15 and it was a saiga in the trunk.

Here you go ... the doctor did say the gun used was from a long rifle.

http://newtown.patch...school-shooting <----- in the article of the interview with the Doctor... he says the bullets came from a rifle.

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Doctors' interview that was on t.v.

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The police should know what kind of gun was used from the type of bullets taken out of those killed.

Why would they want to change their story... ?

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Can you spell A-G-E-N-D-A?

Don't forget that this Government is the one that was funneling assault weapons and guns across the border into Mexico in a clear A-G-E-N-D-A driven policy in order to cause a panic and to instill a popular sentiment for more gun control.

exactly! & don't forget the Benghazi fiasco

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Can you spell A-G-E-N-D-A?

Don't forget that this Government is the one that was funneling assault weapons and guns across the border into Mexico in a clear A-G-E-N-D-A driven policy in order to cause a panic and to instill a popular sentiment for more gun control.

exactly! & don't forget the Benghazi fiasco

Benghazi was about weapons being funneled into Syria to support an Islamic uprising.

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they dont even know what an assault rifle is, how would you expect the media to be able to tell whether it was used or not? thats my quesiton.

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they dont even know what an assault rifle is, how would you expect the media to be able to tell whether it was used or not? thats my quesiton.

isn't an assult rifle like a machine gun..firing several bullets then reload.

But, they said as of first ..it was a rifle that holds many bullets .

Thoses cops know exactly.... what type of gun those type of bullets came from. It doesn't take them a month to figure that out.

Now they saying it was now a rifle ... why did they change their story.

Something wrong there.

oh and by the way ....some kids saw Adam with a long gun as they were interviewed.

The cops said he was found dead and had the rifle.

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the Bushmaster AR-15 that they are calling an assault rifle, is not actually an assault rifle, but a mid length semi-automatic rifle. An assault rifle, must use an intermediate cartridge, must have a detachable magazine, and must have a selectable rate of fire. As in you have to be able to switch between semi-automatic fire (the gun fires every time you pull the trigger) and automatic fire (the gun will continue to fire when holding the trigger down, at least be able to fire a 3 round burst)

Now, lets look at the M-16, the US militarys assault rifle. It uses an intermediate cartridge, the .223. It has a detachable magazine, and it has a selectable rate of fire, semi-automatic, and 3 round burst (each time you pull the trigger it fires 3 rounds)

Now, lets look at the m-4. Again, it uses the .223 and has a detachable magazine. It has a selectable rate of fire, between semi-auto, and full auto (no burst, it will fire as long as you hold the trigger down, until the magazine is empty) Both the M-16 and the M-4 are true assault rifles.

Now, lets look at the Bushmaster AR-15 used in the new town shooting. It uses the same frame as the m4 and the m16. It uses the same round-the .223. It also has a detachable magazine. However, it does not have the selectable rate of fire, it only has semi automatic fire, which means each time you pull the trigger, you fire only a single round. to fire again, you have to release the trigger, and pull it again. You can only fire as fast as you can work that trigger-which is actually pretty fast, the .223 round doesnt kick that bad, so it does fire rapidly. It is an assault style weapon-but it is not a true assault rifle.

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I just googled it...

the assault rifle is prohibited to the public.

there is the semi-automatic and a full- automatic rifle.. holds a cartridge ( bullets)

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semi auto and full auto are not the same, full auto it will fire until you let go of the trigger, semi-auto will only fire once. and you are correct, the assault rifle and other fully automatic weapons are illegal to the general public. There is a process you can go through to own one, but its difficult enough only the enthusiasts can get them, and theyre not the ones you have to worry about shooting up schools, theyre the ones who do competition shooting and re-enactments, and the like.

Semi-automatic weapons, such as the AR-15, are fully legal and can be purchased at your local cabelas or even wal-mart.

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semi auto and full auto are not the same, full auto it will fire until you let go of the trigger, semi-auto will only fire once. and you are correct, the assault rifle and other fully automatic weapons are illegal to the general public. There is a process you can go through to own one, but its difficult enough only the enthusiasts can get them, and theyre not the ones you have to worry about shooting up schools, theyre the ones who do competition shooting and re-enactments, and the like.

Semi-automatic weapons, such as the AR-15, are fully legal and can be purchased at your local cabelas or even wal-mart.

Yeah you are right ... I went and corrected it.

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