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Since God said first in Genesis 2:24 that a man shall leave his mother and father and be joined

to his wife and they shall be one flesh. This makes me believe is that one man and one woman

is holy and united under God into the Holy Matrimony.

So if this is the case then why did the men and that especially in the Old Testament were allowed in the

eyes of God to marry more then one woman?

When did this start? When did it end?

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The first one to marry more than one wife at a time was Lamech, a descendent of Cain. Lamech was also a murderer. God may have permitted it but He did not approve of it.

Genesis 4

17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.

18 And Irad was born to Enoch. And Irad fathered Mehujael. And Mehujael fathered Methusael. And Methusael fathered Lamech.

19 ¶ And Lamech took two wives to himself. The name of the first one was Adah, and the name of the other was Zillah.

20 And Adah bore Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents, and with cattle.

21 And his brother's name was Jubal; he was the father of all those playing the harp and the organ.

22 And Zillah also bore Tubalcain, the hammerer of every engraving tool of bronze and iron. And the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

23 ¶ And Lamech said to his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice, wives of Lamech, listen to my speech. For I have killed a man because of my wound, and a young man because of my hurt.

24 For Cain is avenged seven times, and Lamech seventy-seven times.

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Sigh. I have no idea why that one sentence has a different font than any other one. Sometimes this software is screwy.

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Here is a good article I have in my bookmarks on the subject, it should satisfy your curiosity. You can read it in 5 min:

http://www.gotquestions.org/polygamy.html (Lots of other good articles on this site as well.)

God bless.

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Since God said first in Genesis 2:24 that a man shall leave his mother and father and be joined

to his wife and they shall be one flesh. This makes me believe is that one man and one woman

is holy and united under God into the Holy Matrimony.

So if this is the case then why did the men and that especially in the Old Testament were allowed in the

eyes of God to marry more then one woman?

When did this start? When did it end?

Mark 10:6-8

New International Version (NIV)

6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a]7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b]8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh.

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Since God said first in Genesis 2:24 that a man shall leave his mother and father and be joined

to his wife and they shall be one flesh. This makes me believe is that one man and one woman

is holy and united under God into the Holy Matrimony.

So if this is the case then why did the men and that especially in the Old Testament were allowed in the

eyes of God to marry more then one woman?

When did this start? When did it end?

Is it Gods plan and intention that a man have only one wife?

I believe the answer is yes based upon what I have understand the scriptures to reveal.

Is it ever OK to have more than one wife?

I believe that there are circumstances that can warrant it.

Polygamy is a very controversial topic. I have no interest in partaking in it myself but a pretty strong argument can be put together to support the possibility of righteously partaking in polygamy using scripture. The strongest arguments point to Gods plan being one man and one woman for life but does not discount polygamy as an unrighteous act.

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Who would survive more than one wife? God loves us, He would never want us to have two.

Jesus Is Lord.

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God uses a lot of images to express His word to us. Among them is marriage. He set the pattern for what is good and right with Adam and Eve. It is the picture, the type, of relationship between Christ and the Church. The church is often described as the bride and Jesus as the bridegroom.

God set the pattern. Polygamous marriage is not part of that pattern.

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Who was the first godly and righteous man in the O.T. to have more than one wife?

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Who was the first godly and righteous man in the O.T. to have more than one wife?

Abraham
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1 Tim 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach;

" v12 Let deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

Mark 10:4-9 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce, and to dismiss her.”

5 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Because of the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 6 But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Just like the issue of divorce, Jesus said it was not that way from the beginning and quotes from Genesis, and notice the be joined to his wife, not his wives. And the other two references mention the office of the bishop and the deacons and they were to be blameless and the husband of one wife. No church that I know of would consider a preacher or any lay person to be faithful who came in with two wives, one on each arm and allow either to be even members of their church much less leaders. Just like all doctrine, his servant you are to whom you obey. And just like Abraham who was righteous by faith, not by his actions, he obeyed the flesh and Ishmael was of the flesh, but Abraham was thankful that his righteousness was by grace in Christ. We are to do as Paul said, the things you see me do in Christ, these you are to do. Follow the good, reject the deeds of the flesh.

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This will seem romanticized but try not that direction rather spiritual intent!

We were born in a world and body of wrong... it is all we have ever known till the asking of Jesus to save us. We are now instructed

to renew our minds and so doing through Spirit and Word ever waring against the body and world influence that we stemmed from!

In the beginning in the innocence we cannot know by obvious realities... however God The Holy Spirit can rebuild that heart and we

can be reformed to proper thought but not without the letting go of the present wrong. It is in this way I am now speaking of Holiness

in marriage:

The beautiful intimacy we share with God by His Grace and Mercy teaches us a lot

for what marriage is all about... The uniqueness of the individual and limitlessness of the

qualities that they can become is truly a worthy of one's self invested into another and

surprise of surprises this enrichment returns as (true value) which is greatened by your self

which was poured into (mate)... a building of riches that cannot receive rust, moth or end but

is living and eternal... so that when you look deeply into her eyes you will see how the Lord

has designed the selfless to be the self improving and how the bond of love can actually have

newness everyday of increase without effect of this present place of sin and bodies influence

toward such... It will be the greatest and most difficult work a man can do but with wisdom and

total investment of self (so Christ and His Church) so man and his wife...

Eph 5:25-33

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and

cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having

spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own

wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and

cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 "For

this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." 32 This

is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

NKJV

Because of lust and stupidity- I destroyed this experience from my life here and because of God's great mercy

He has shown me the great cost of sin by allowing me to see this... mercy you say~To see and not have? yes

for in my healing He has placed my heart to be of woman to my Lord and the excellencies of this engagement

with Him in work here..., in this place, my all that I am growing into in understanding of His endless love for us

all! Love, Steven

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I think we should differentiate between wive and concubine, not the same.

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Polygamous marriage is not part of that pattern.

So which one of us will end up being Jesus' one wife then, since he will only have one? Of a truth the word 'bride' is used in a singular sense when used to apply to the church but that does not negate the very fact that we are many who are all espoused to Christ. That said, it would not be a righteous thing for me personally to have more than one wife. I don't have what it takes. Most times I doubt seriously that I have what it takes to righteously keep one. God bless.

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I think we should differentiate between wive and concubine, not the same.

You need to define them for us then as there is at least one who is called both a concubine and a wife to the same man. She is in judges and ends up dying a vicious death. David was righteous and had multiple wives. Jacob is stated to be a 'plain' man who lived in tents and the word 'plain' there is the same word God used when saying Job was a 'perfect' man who loved God and hated evil. He had 2 wives as well. Lots of interesting fodder back in the OT to meditate on. Guess that is why the scripture says that the righteous man delights in the law of God and meditates in it day and night! Peace to you Ronnie.

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I think we should differentiate between wive and concubine, not the same.

You need to define them for us then as there is at least one who is called both a concubine and a wife to the same man. She is in judges and ends up dying a vicious death. David was righteous and had multiple wives. Jacob is stated to be a 'plain' man who lived in tents and the word 'plain' there is the same word God used when saying Job was a 'perfect' man who loved God and hated evil. He had 2 wives as well. Lots of interesting fodder back in the OT to meditate on. Guess that is why the scripture says that the righteous man delights in the law of God and meditates in it day and night! Peace to you Ronnie.

Peace? Peace? How can I have peace when you rag me out like this. Just kidding. :rofl: Just making fun! I was expecting a reaction to my statement. It's cool.
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In Scripture only Christian Bishops are forbidden to have more than one wife. HOWEVER: In every polygamous household in the Bible, we see a lot of dysfunction. I have heard that the Chinese symbol for 'trouble' is a house with two women in it; THAT'S A BIT OF WISDOM SOME FOLKS NEED TO LEARN!!!

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Who was the first godly and righteous man in the O.T. to have more than one wife?

Abraham

Did anything good come from abraham taking a second woman while married to sarah? No.

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Who was the first godly and righteous man in the O.T. to have more than one wife?

Abraham

Did anything good come from abraham taking a second woman while married to sarah? No.

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I believe it is best for marriage to be between one man and one woman, but polygamy was never forbidden. It was regulated in the law of Moses. I believe there are certain instances where polygamy is necessary, such as in a society where the majority of men are killed off because of war. The way I know it is not a sin is because it is regulated in the law of Moses. If God considered it sinful, it wouldn't have ever been allowed by a Holy God in his law. There is also a passage that speaks of a day where 7 women will cling to 1 man in marriage because of a shortage of men. What I have found strange is the push for acceptance of homosexual marriage, which was never acceptable in the eyes of God, and the continued attack on polygamy. Polygamy is far less offensive than homosexual marriage.

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Polygamy is far less offensive than homosexual marriage.

To who?

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I believe it is best for marriage to be between one man and one woman, but polygamy was never forbidden. It was regulated in the law of Moses. I believe there are certain instances where polygamy is necessary, such as in a society where the majority of men are killed off because of war. The way I know it is not a sin is because it is regulated in the law of Moses. If God considered it sinful, it wouldn't have ever been allowed by a Holy God in his law. There is also a passage that speaks of a day where 7 women will cling to 1 man in marriage because of a shortage of men. What I have found strange is the push for acceptance of homosexual marriage, which was never acceptable in the eyes of God, and the continued attack on polygamy. Polygamy is far less offensive than homosexual marriage.

Point.

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Perhaps the question would be better asked if God allowed it, as He 'allowed' divorce, or, did He say "Oh...good idea....should be entertaining."

Polygamy, the practice of one man having multiple wives, was common in antiquity. Though practiced in the Old Testament, polygamy was never God’s perfect plan.

First, the ideal pattern of monogamous marriage of one woman and one man was established early in Genesis: “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh” (2:24). Moreover this very passage was quoted by both Jesus and Paul in defense of the sacredness and exclusivity of monogamous marriage (Matthew 19:3–9; 1 Corinthians 6:15–17; cf. 1 Corinthians 7:2).

Furthermore, the Bible explicitly condemns the polygamy of Old Testament kings (Deuteronomy 17:17). Likewise, New Testament elders and deacons are called to be “the husband of but one wife” (1 Timothy 3:2, 12; Titus 1:6). Just as the requirements for church leaders set the standards of morality and spiritual maturity for all believers, so too the admonition against polygamy for the kings of Israel demonstrates the danger of this practice for all.

Solomon is the quintessential example of one whose legacy of faithfulness was compromised because of his polygamous behavior.

Finally, God’s disdain for polygamy is seen in its consequences. The Old Testament clearly reveals the familial strife and temptations that accompany the practice. Solomon’s peaceful and prosperous rule ended in idolatrous scandal and civil strife, for “his wives turned his heart after other gods” (1 Kings 11:4).

For further study, see Gleason Archer, Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1982).

MATTHEW 19:4–6

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh?’ So they are no longer two, but one.”

I copy pasted. It was so convenient; also, based on scripture and I found myself in agreement

There was the discussion on slavery in another thread. Slaves were not disallowed either. But did God give everyone one or two or did mankind,

through the practice of war, bring home those they had defeated, captive, to be used as convenient domestics and even, on occasion, entertainment

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I believe it is best for marriage to be between one man and one woman, but polygamy was never forbidden. It was regulated in the law of Moses. I believe there are certain instances where polygamy is necessary, such as in a society where the majority of men are killed off because of war. The way I know it is not a sin is because it is regulated in the law of Moses. If God considered it sinful, it wouldn't have ever been allowed by a Holy God in his law. There is also a passage that speaks of a day where 7 women will cling to 1 man in marriage because of a shortage of men. What I have found strange is the push for acceptance of homosexual marriage, which was never acceptable in the eyes of God, and the continued attack on polygamy. Polygamy is far less offensive than homosexual marriage.

Point.

We have this huge push for gay marriage, and we are all supposed to be tolerant of it, yet we have a large number of Mormon polygamists still being persecuted. God not only allowed for polygamy, but he regulated it in the law of Moses. The patriarchs came about through polygamy. I see two guys calling themselves a married couple, and am repulsed by it, as it is clearly against nature and God's order, but I see Mormon households where someone has 3 or 4 wives, and it is no big deal to me. That is my only point.

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Perhaps the question would be better asked if God allowed it, as He 'allowed' divorce, or, did He say "Oh...good idea....should be entertaining."

Polygamy, the practice of one man having multiple wives, was common in antiquity. Though practiced in the Old Testament, polygamy was never God’s perfect plan.

First, the ideal pattern of monogamous marriage of one woman and one man was established early in Genesis: “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh” (2:24). Moreover this very passage was quoted by both Jesus and Paul in defense of the sacredness and exclusivity of monogamous marriage (Matthew 19:3–9; 1 Corinthians 6:15–17; cf. 1 Corinthians 7:2).

Furthermore, the Bible explicitly condemns the polygamy of Old Testament kings (Deuteronomy 17:17). Likewise, New Testament elders and deacons are called to be “the husband of but one wife” (1 Timothy 3:2, 12; Titus 1:6). Just as the requirements for church leaders set the standards of morality and spiritual maturity for all believers, so too the admonition against polygamy for the kings of Israel demonstrates the danger of this practice for all.

Solomon is the quintessential example of one whose legacy of faithfulness was compromised because of his polygamous behavior.

Finally, God’s disdain for polygamy is seen in its consequences. The Old Testament clearly reveals the familial strife and temptations that accompany the practice. Solomon’s peaceful and prosperous rule ended in idolatrous scandal and civil strife, for “his wives turned his heart after other gods” (1 Kings 11:4).

For further study, see Gleason Archer, Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1982).

MATTHEW 19:4–6

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh?’ So they are no longer two, but one.”

I copy pasted. It was so convenient; also, based on scripture and I found myself in agreement

There was the discussion on slavery in another thread. Slaves were not disallowed either. But did God give everyone one or two or did mankind,

through the practice of war, bring home those they had defeated, captive, to be used as convenient domestics and even, on occasion, entertainment

I don't think there is any question a marriage between one man and one woman is better than polygamy, but the Bible never forbids polygamy. There will be cases where it is necessary, especially in the example given where 7 women will cling to 1 man because of a shortage of potential husbands. Solomon's problem was that he married heathen women who were idolaters, and in an attempt to please them, he joined them in their idol worship. The fact there were problems in polygamist marriages doesn't show "God's disdain" for it, anymore than the fact that 1 in 2 marriages ends in divorce would show God's disdain for the institution of marriage.

As for slavery, you are right in that it is not forbidden, but regulated. I have brought that up in the past. Divorce was abused. It was supposed to be as a result of some "uncleaness," but a bill of divorcement was given for any cause.

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