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Boy Scouts Ending Gay Ban

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I don't think I can call myself an evangelical Christian if I am not able to bring to the Lord and save the most challenging cases. Bringing illiterate or defenseless people to the Lord is easy; try to win an academic European atheist if you can. I already brought two of them to the Lord, and my success was due to the deployment of reason and logic. And you can win them using reason, of course! It would be self-defeating to admit that our faith cannot be defended by reason and logic, wouldn't?

I think the problem here is thinking we have anything to do with who accepts the Gospel and who rejects it. We're called to preach the Gospel (how the Holy Spirit leads you to do it). However we have no control over what people who hear it are going to do with it.

John 6:44

No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

I would reiterate this sentiment when it comes to witnessing to illiterate versus academic people.Since it's the Holy Spirit who does the work in a sinner's heart to lead them to repentance, the only credit we can take for ourselves is that of simply being willing and obedient enough to be God's mouthpiece,

It isn't our success, but the Holy Spirit's. Now it's completely possible the Holy Spirit led you to use reason and logic to witness to these people, and that's great. I fully believe the Holy Spirit knows how we should approach each person and will tell us how if we listen. Sometimes it is using Scripture. Sometimes it is reason and logic. Sometimes it's simply love and compassion and friendship. However it's done we have to remember the Holy Spirit does the real, inside work. All we are is God's mouthpiece.

I think I agree with you. Ever since I was a child I was speaking with the voice of the Holy Spirit: my parents always told me that I was much more inspired than what could be expected from someone my age. Our Lord's goal is motivated by infinite Love, so I think He gives different tongues for different needs. My tongue is reason and logic because He knows I live in a time and place where this is needed most.In Christ Stu

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I dont think all gays are pedofiles, and to suggest such morninglory, isnt an accurate representation.

Morninglory specifically referred to militant gays, not all gays.

I have had a few friends over the years, who were gay, but would never hurt a child-in fact they were more likely to beat a pedofile to a pulp, then to ever harm a child. There are I think, 2 classes of homosexuals who want into the BSA-the ones who simply want to force others to accept them, and those who, yes, are interested in the boyscouts-perhaps they have an "adopted" child they want to be in the scouts. now thats a whole different topic, but just because they want their kid in the boyscouts, or want to help teach a merit badge, does not mean they have less then wholesome purposes for being there. Dont get me wrong, im against BSA allowing gays in, but I dont hold that just because theyre gay they must be after the kids. That would be a completly untrue, and uneducated, statement.

I have known gays who were good people and not pedofiles but they are not the ones trying to get close to young boys by infiltrating every organization where they can find young boys.

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I dont think all gays are pedofiles, and to suggest such morninglory, isnt an accurate representation

Dont get me wrong, im against BSA allowing gays in, but I dont hold that just because theyre gay they must be after the kids. That would be a completly untrue, and uneducated, statement.

You need to back up and read my post again. I did NOT say all gays are pedofiles.

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morningglory- I agree with patriot here, and I don't have anything to add to his analysis. I'd just add that's true of gay people I know as well.

You're free to agree with anyone you please but my statement was misread.

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