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About the Sabbath 7th. Day Gen. 2:2

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Can we get out of context when we overlook about the Sabbath 7th.Day from the begining Genesis 2:2 ? but was that day set apart for man to fellowship with his maker for a particular reason? and was that day santified on a certain day of the week like Mon. -Sun. or was it from its origin on that 7th day like it says from Gen. 2:2 ? It is our belief that The Sabbath Day was and still is the 7th. day of GOD's creation of this universe on earth. Eventhough we are among different sequence of calendars for different nations. How would one discover how to keep the 7th. day Sabbath holy from all the rest of the days like it says in Exodus 20:8, Luke 4:16, Acts 17:2. surely Moses, Jesus, and the apostle Paul did not break the context of the holy scriptures. but are we suppose to do likewise or go about doing our own way shape, form, or fasion? Because some of us use to keep Sunday or on any day of the week or still do count from Sun. to Sun. (like we use to) until we had stuided through the different times of sequences to get to the full knowledge of the love of the truth by doing so inorder to come under certain scriptures rightly dividing the words of the truth II Tim. 2:15. Would there be a difference in the way that you would remember to keep the Sabbath Day Holy? or do you keep any or all days the same?

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You will find solid scripture for both ways. Those who want ot keep the Sabbath on one particular day stand mostly on the OT. Those who believe that as long as you give one day to the Lord find their backing in the NT. One thing for sure is that no man should judge you according to Sabbaths.

Colossians 2:16-17
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

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Did the seventh day of Gen 2:2 ever end?

days 1-6 had an "evening" and a "morning", yet day 7 did not.

why is this?

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Could be that when we do finally enter into His rest, it will be forever!

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Amen OneLight - Jesus Christ is our rest 24/7 and all days belong to Him.

Romans 14:5-6 NASB One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.

Colossians 2:13-17 NASB 13 When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, 14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him. 16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.


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You will find solid scripture for both ways. Those who want ot keep the Sabbath on one particular day stand mostly on the OT. Those who believe that as long as you give one day to the Lord find their backing in the NT. One thing for sure is that no man should judge you according to Sabbaths.

Colossians 2:16-17
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.


Amen. Another verse to consider is:

One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Romans 14:5


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Could be that when we do finally enter into His rest, it will be forever!


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And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
Revelation 22:3-5

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Could be that when we do finally enter into His rest, it will be forever!


That very well could be. Thanks for that suggestion.

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nChrist,

re: "Romans 14:5-6..."


With regard to Romans 14:5-6, the subject of the chapter from start to finish has to do with what people eat. Paul is writing about asceticism. Some in the church at Rome believed Christians should eat only vegetables. Paul calls these people "weak in the faith" (verses 1-2). The stronger in faith know they could also eat meat. Nothing in God's law prescribes vegetarianism. The stronger in faith knew they were free from non-biblical asceticism. A part of the controversy that had sprung up between the weak and the strong Christians was the esteeming of days. In Rome some people had the pagan idea that on certain days certain foods should or should not be eaten. In this whole chapter Paul was just showing that others should not be offended, particularly weak members who have not yet learned the truth about the proper Christian diet and that they should not be judged by the stronger in the faith. This passage has nothing to do with the Sabbath.

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Can we get out of context when we overlook about the Sabbath 7th.Day from the begining Genesis 2:2 ? but was that day set apart for man to fellowship with his maker for a particular reason? and was that day santified on a certain day of the week like Mon. -Sun. or was it from its origin on that 7th day like it says from Gen. 2:2 ? It is our belief that The Sabbath Day was and still is the 7th. day of GOD's creation of this universe on earth. Eventhough we are among different sequence of calendars for different nations. How would one discover how to keep the 7th. day Sabbath holy from all the rest of the days like it says in Exodus 20:8, Luke 4:16, Acts 17:2. surely Moses, Jesus, and the apostle Paul did not break the context of the holy scriptures. but are we suppose to do likewise or go about doing our own way shape, form, or fasion? Because some of us use to keep Sunday or on any day of the week or still do count from Sun. to Sun. (like we use to) until we had stuided through the different times of sequences to get to the full knowledge of the love of the truth by doing so inorder to come under certain scriptures rightly dividing the words of the truth II Tim. 2:15. Would there be a difference in the way that you would remember to keep the Sabbath Day Holy? or do you keep any or all days the same?


If the fourth commandment is still valid to all of us then you are totally lost and we're all going to hell, for Jesus not only worked on the Sabbath, he told the Jews that questioned him about it that he was working...... and for that matter the Father had been working also. Didn't explain to them that you can do some things on the Sabbath and some things you can't........ just said I'm working.... so if it's still the law then he sinned and your lost.

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Can we get out of context when we overlook about the Sabbath 7th.Day from the begining Genesis 2:2 ? but was that day set apart for man to fellowship with his maker for a particular reason? and was that day santified on a certain day of the week like Mon. -Sun. or was it from its origin on that 7th day like it says from Gen. 2:2 ? It is our belief that The Sabbath Day was and still is the 7th. day of GOD's creation of this universe on earth. Eventhough we are among different sequence of calendars for different nations. How would one discover how to keep the 7th. day Sabbath holy from all the rest of the days like it says in Exodus 20:8, Luke 4:16, Acts 17:2. surely Moses, Jesus, and the apostle Paul did not break the context of the holy scriptures. but are we suppose to do likewise or go about doing our own way shape, form, or fasion? Because some of us use to keep Sunday or on any day of the week or still do count from Sun. to Sun. (like we use to) until we had stuided through the different times of sequences to get to the full knowledge of the love of the truth by doing so inorder to come under certain scriptures rightly dividing the words of the truth II Tim. 2:15. Would there be a difference in the way that you would remember to keep the Sabbath Day Holy? or do you keep any or all days the same?


If the fourth commandment is still valid to all of us then you are totally lost and we're all going to hell, for Jesus not only worked on the Sabbath, he told the Jews that questioned him about it that he was working...... and for that matter the Father had been working also. Didn't explain to them that you can do some things on the Sabbath and some things you can't........ just said I'm working.... so if it's still the law then he sinned and your lost.


i feel the same way other one..
now trust me, i don't want to live under the law..grace is much better of an upgrade..

i must wonder though.. if the 10 moral laws are written on our heart..then why is the 4th written off?

are the 10 moral laws not separate from the 613 Jewish ceremonial laws?

just some thoughts..


EDIT:

and wasn't Christ referring to good works and the Gospel as far as "working" here, as opposed to laying brick for example?

Edited by BlessedByTheBest, 10 February 2013 - 11:44 AM.


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we wouldn't go and commit murder and say..that's ok, because Jesus nailed that to the cross... would we?

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Can we get out of context when we overlook about the Sabbath 7th.Day from the begining Genesis 2:2 ? but was that day set apart for man to fellowship with his maker for a particular reason? and was that day santified on a certain day of the week like Mon. -Sun. or was it from its origin on that 7th day like it says from Gen. 2:2 ? It is our belief that The Sabbath Day was and still is the 7th. day of GOD's creation of this universe on earth. Eventhough we are among different sequence of calendars for different nations. How would one discover how to keep the 7th. day Sabbath holy from all the rest of the days like it says in Exodus 20:8, Luke 4:16, Acts 17:2. surely Moses, Jesus, and the apostle Paul did not break the context of the holy scriptures. but are we suppose to do likewise or go about doing our own way shape, form, or fasion? Because some of us use to keep Sunday or on any day of the week or still do count from Sun. to Sun. (like we use to) until we had stuided through the different times of sequences to get to the full knowledge of the love of the truth by doing so inorder to come under certain scriptures rightly dividing the words of the truth II Tim. 2:15. Would there be a difference in the way that you would remember to keep the Sabbath Day Holy? or do you keep any or all days the same?


If the fourth commandment is still valid to all of us then you are totally lost and we're all going to hell, for Jesus not only worked on the Sabbath, he told the Jews that questioned him about it that he was working...... and for that matter the Father had been working also. Didn't explain to them that you can do some things on the Sabbath and some things you can't........ just said I'm working.... so if it's still the law then he sinned and your lost.


i feel the same way other one..
now trust me, i don't want to live under the law..grace is much better of an upgrade..

i must wonder though.. if the 10 moral laws are written on our heart..then why is the 4th written off?

are the 10 moral laws not separate from the 613 Jewish ceremonial laws?

just some thoughts..


EDIT:

and wasn't Christ referring to good works and the Gospel as far as "working" here, as opposed to laying brick for example?


It's not written off any more than the other ten are. We are to Love God with all our heart mind and soul, and our neighbour as ourselves........ 7 days a week 365 1/4 days a year.. Keep in mind that keeping the ten commandments never saved a single soul, and still can't. We are told to meet (or actually not to stop meeting) but we're not told to do it on any one day. BTW if anyone wants to keep the Sabbath, there isn't a thing wrong with doing so....... however it's not part of the salvation process and along with circumcision is no longer a requirement..... to be saved. Actually the entire old covenant never saved a single soul that I'm aware of..... but it did keep the Israelites in Gods blessings as a country......... but those promises of the old covenant were never promised to anyone outside of Israel that I am aware of.

So, Keep the Sabbath, or not keep the Sabbath, is OK from what I read You can focus on keeping the ten commandments and not break a single one your whole life and still go to hell

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we wouldn't go and commit murder and say..that's ok, because Jesus nailed that to the cross... would we?


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thank you brothers.. love to you.

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nChrist,

re: "Romans 14:5-6..."


With regard to Romans 14:5-6, the subject of the chapter from start to finish has to do with what people eat. Paul is writing about asceticism. Some in the church at Rome believed Christians should eat only vegetables. Paul calls these people "weak in the faith" (verses 1-2). The stronger in faith know they could also eat meat. Nothing in God's law prescribes vegetarianism. The stronger in faith knew they were free from non-biblical asceticism. A part of the controversy that had sprung up between the weak and the strong Christians was the esteeming of days. In Rome some people had the pagan idea that on certain days certain foods should or should not be eaten. In this whole chapter Paul was just showing that others should not be offended, particularly weak members who have not yet learned the truth about the proper Christian diet and that they should not be judged by the stronger in the faith. This passage has nothing to do with the Sabbath.



We can agree to disagree.

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we wouldn't go and commit murder and say..that's ok, because Jesus nailed that to the cross... would we?


No we wouldn't go and murder because we're to love people that we might murder...... and we wouldn't mess with his wife or his car or anything else that is his...... and more important if we're doing what Jesus told us by really loving them, we won't even want to hurt them or take their stuff or their spouses. And even more, though the ten commandments don't tell us to, we are supposed to help them when they have needs and can't help themselves...... and that's quoted by the Lord as causing some to go to hell. You'll find that in the book of Matthew chapter 25 around verse 30 or so.

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of course..that would be an extreme, and i just wanted to create the contrast.
thank you for solidifying my position in Christ, other one.

the moral law written on our hearts is not to be a burden, but a blessing.
perhaps my questions will close the gap concerning the law in someone's faith, but rest assured, the doubts were not mine. just some thoughts..

i love you as if you were me. isn't our Lord and Saviour beautiful?

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Can anyone find where the 10 commandments are listed in the New Testament, and is the 4th commandment among them? Jesus does not mention the 4th in Matthew 19:18-19, for instance.

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Willamina,

re: "Jesus does not mention the 4th in Matthew 19:18-19, for instance."

He also doesn't mention the first three in those verses.




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