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Science Disproves Evolution


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I'm asking you to just tell me what the scientists say evolution is (I can tell you what creationists believe – can you grant me the courtesy of understanding the other side?

 

I already did, SEE Kerkut's "Documented/Cited" Definition I posted.  And who cares what they say, it's what "scientists" can support/validate via the Scientific Method.

 

 

In all my interactions with you and other creationists I have never been provided that. 

 

Baloney.  Since you are the one "believing" it, why don't "You"-------Support It?

 

 

I only see a bunch of straw men – your last post being the latest - that get beat down by those that offer them.

 

Unsupported Assertion (Fallacy) x 2.  Show this so-called "beat down"?

 

I'm looking for a creationist to be intellectually honest.

 

Baseless Generalized Assertion (Fallacy)

 

Are you gonna support your baseless assertions @ some point?

 

I say again....

 

DNA/RNA/"Functional Proteins" NEVER spontaneously form "naturally", outside already existing cells, from nucleotides and aminos, respectively.
It's Physically and Chemically IMPOSSIBLE.
That's just the Hardware!

 

DNA "CODE"/Software------------------Design(Intelligence)--------------------Designer!

 

To refute:

 

1. Prove that the Genetic CODE is not....."CODE"/Software. OR....
2. Prove that Atoms/Molecules have Sentience and Intelligence.

 

 

These are Strawman to evolution as Hydrogen is Strawman to H2O

 

Thanks for your input.

 

 

 

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No Problem, glad to be of assistance.


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Handedness: Left and Right 2

 

No known natural process can isolate either the left-handed or right-handed variety. The mathematical probability that chance processes could produce merely one tiny protein molecule with only left-handed amino acids is virtually zero (d).

 

A similar observation can be made for a special class of organic compounds called sugars. In living systems, sugars are all right-handed. Based on our present understanding, natural processes produce an equal number of left-handed and right-handed sugars. Because sugars in living things are right-handed, random natural processes apparently did not produce life.

 

If any living thing took in (or ate) amino acids or sugars with the wrong handedness, the organism’s body could not process it. Such food would be useless, if not harmful. Because evolution favors slight variations that enhance survivability and reproduction, consider how beneficial a mutation might be that switched (or inverted) a plant’s handedness. “Inverted” (or wrong-handed) trees would proliferate rapidly, because they would no longer provide nourishment to bacteria, mold, or termites. “Inverted” forests would fill continents. Other “inverted” plants and animals would also benefit and would overwhelm the balance of nature. Why do we not see such species with right-handed amino acids and left-handed sugars? Similarly, why are there not more poisonous plants? Why don’t beneficial mutations enable most carriers to defeat their predators? Beneficial mutations are rarer than most evolutionists believe. [See “Mutations” on page 9.]

 

d. “Many researchers have attempted to find plausible natural conditions under which [left-handed] L-amino acids would preferentially accumulate over their [right-handed] D-counterparts, but all such attempts have failed. Until this crucial problem is solved, no one can say that we have found a naturalistic explanation for the origin of life. Instead, these isomer preferences point to biochemical creation.”  Kenyon, p. A-23.

 

Evolutionists who work in this field are continually seeking a solution. Occasionally, someone claims that it has been solved, but only after checking the details does one find that the problem remains. In Germany, in 1994, a doctoral candidate, Guido Zadel, claimed he had solved the problem. Supposedly, a strong magnetic field will bias a reaction toward either the left-handed or right-handed form. Origin-of-life researchers were excited. Zadel’s doctorate was awarded. At least 20 groups then tried to duplicate his results, always unsuccessfully. Later, Zadel admitted that he had dishonestly manipulated his data. [See Daniel Clery and David Bradley, “Underhanded ‘Breakthrough’ Revealed,” Science, Vol. 265, 1 July 1994, p. 21.]

 

James F. Coppedge, Evolution: Possible or Impossible? (Grand Rapids: Zondervan Publishing House, 1973), pp. 71–79.

 

A. E. Wilder-Smith, The Natural Sciences Know Nothing of Evolution (San Diego: Master Book Publishers, 1981), pp. 15–32, 154–160.

Dickerson, p. 76.

 


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wow! I just wrote a huge response to Jerry, and when I was done, I clicked `post` and I was somehow signed out, and lost the entire post!

That`s enough to put me off from ever posting another word here.

Late cats and kittens.

Oh, Jerry, you are so wrong! The end is near, get right with Jesus brother.

 

John


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wow! I just wrote a huge response to Jerry, and when I was done, I clicked `post` and I was somehow signed out, and lost the entire post!
That`s enough to put me off from ever posting another word here.
Late cats and kittens.
Oh, Jerry, you are so wrong! The end is near, get right with Jesus brother.

John


Sorry about the lost post. Thanks for your concern...

Edited by jerryR34, 05 September 2014 - 08:42 PM.

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Just my two cents: Unless you were brought up to believe YEC, chances are you cannot accept YEC anymore than you can accept that the Earth is flat or that 1+1=3; they all have about the same probability for most non-YECers. I agree with Bary and Neb, YEC and the non-acceptance of evolution is a great stumbling block for the vast majority of non-believers. I have friends that have stated that they cannot take a Christian seriously if they don't accept evolution.

I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but the rest of the world really does look at YEC and laugh. To outsiders it is viewed as pseudoscience or worse.

 

 

So, are you saying that, if I don't believe in evolution, I must believe in YEC?

Since when did the two become one and the same?

I didn't get the memo....


Edited by Angelquill, 06 September 2014 - 09:33 AM.

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There's a huge problem where Christians believe in evolution.

Read Genesis 1 and see with your own eyes. There is no figurative language used, there is no parable there is no allegory. So how can anyone see millions or billions of years here?

Could plants live for million or billions of years without sun?

 

God goes out of His way to be certain that we understand exactly how He created.

God creates - then describes what He created, then God is clear there was evening, and there was morning - the first day

and there was evening and there was morning - the second day

and there was evening and there was morning - the third day

and there was evening and there was morning - the forth day

and there was evening and there was morning - the fifth day

and there was evening and there was morning - the sixth day

 

Christians, don't let atheists and their beliefs cause us to doubt God. That very same tactic was used by the serpent, remember that? "did God really say?" 

 

Christians, stand up straight. We fell behind and allowed false doctrines and doubts about what God did, or did not say, or do. To cause us to doubt God "Did God really say He created everything in six days?"

We have His Word! They have fallible science, they have  a weak, rotting sick and dying theory.

There are faithful men of God who are archaeologists, we have geologists, we have paleontologists! These strong, and faithful men and women are tearing down Darwin's plastic castle. The hypothesis is melting down around Darwin's feet!.

 

How many times have these scientist proudly held up the "missing link"! with great fan-fare, and back patting all around. Then, a short while later, after other scientists have had a look at the bones, very quietly, and as private a showing as they can muster...yes, this latest of a long line before him, turns out not to be a missing link at all,,,so, in reality, there are no missing links - the entire chain is missing!

 

God created everything in six days, and I could care less if anyone thinks less of me!

 

John


Edited by Bronzesnake, 06 September 2014 - 04:04 PM.

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God created everything in six days, and I could care less if anyone thinks less of me!

 

Evolution continues everyday regardless of whether any human believes in it or not.


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