I had a thread that moved onto this topic. I said that Christ did not die for our sins, and the thread was moved to closed, and I was assigned the status of unbeliever in pretty short order. I now see, on consideration, that I need to retract my position, somewhat. I would like to discuss, on this thread, the forgiveness of sins as it affects these areas:
1. The effect our sins have on everyone else. The world's a connected place!
2. The effect our sins have on our own soul.
3. The effect our sins have on our possibility of redemption.
4. The effect our sins have on the redemption process.
5. The effect our sins have on our afterlife.
1. Seems to me that there are obviously sinful acts, like rape, that affect others badly. And less obviously sinful acts, like careless consumerism, that nevertheless cause hardship in other parts of the world, such as child-labour, and even slavery.
2. Seems to me that our sins harden our soul. Take avarice. The more we meanly accumulate, the more we want to meanly accumulate. And this goes for all sorts of sins, such as lust, sloth, envy, and so on.
3. Seems to me, that the deeper we are sunk in sin, the more we need redemption, but the less likely we are to seek it.
4. Seems to me, that as we are redeemed, we find it necessary to face our sinfulness, and repent of it. Repentance is no easy process; it hurts to face the truth about yourself.
5. Seems to me, that the quality of our souls affects the quality of the afterlife we can expect. Mass-murderers, such as Hitler, Stalin, Amin, Pol Pot, etc, are just going to hate being in the presence of God. Other, lesser, criminals, aren't going to like it much, either. Those of us who have lead more or less moral lives, might like it somewhat more. Saints, it goes without saying, will find themselves vindicated, adored, and adoring. Nice work, if you can get it.
So my question to the forum, is this. Assuming the above sketch of the effects of sin is more or less correct, in what area does Jesus' sacrifice make a difference?
Best wishes to everyone, eco.
Edited by ecoTramp, 27 February 2013 - 08:26 AM.