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Is it possible to walk away from every temptation

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True, we are sanctified only through the grace of our precious Lord Jesus, but..(1.) Can we honestly walk away from every temptation thrown at us so that we do not sin.  (2.) Do we have ultimate strength through the Holy Spirit to turn from every temptation. The reason I'm asking is because some do not believe in once saved always saved (OSAS). Some might say, "well we have free will to walk away from temptation."  (3.) Is it our free will or God's convictions that help us to walk away from temptation. I would like to turn the tables and think outside the box here. God demands us to live a holy life inside our bodies. (4.) So how perfect and holy can we really get inside our bodies. (James 2:17) (5.) Is it at all possible to avoid being dragged away into our own evil desires through prayer? (6) Are we suppose to be praying every day for sanctification inside our bodies. (7.) Is temptation and testing from different spiritual forces. (Yes it is). So with thread I would like to focus on four main ingredients...

 

(1.) holiness  (2.) body (3.) temptation/testing (4.) perfection...wherever there is a christian walking away from temptation and sin, there is indeed persecution at every corner, either from peers or the devil. Consider yourself blessed when persecution arises. So......are we ready to fight.........for our BODIES?! Blessings. - DRS81

 

Romans 12:1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual act of worship.

 

1 Cor 6:19-20 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

 

James 1:2-18 Trials and Temptations - 2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3 because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. 4 Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. 5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. 6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord; 8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does. 9 The brother in humble circumstances ought to take pride in his high position. 10 But the one who is rich should take pride in his low position, because he will pass away like a wild flower. 11 For the sun rises with scorching heat and withers the plant; its blossom falls and its beauty is destroyed. In the same way, the rich man will fade away even while he goes about his business. 12 Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him. 13 When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. 15 Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death. 16 Don't be deceived, my dear brothers. 17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. 18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of first-fruits of all he created.



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Does that include sinful "thoughts"? I think it's possible to turn away from every temptation physically (even though it might take a life time to come to that point) but not mentally. In my opinion...



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Is it possible to walk away from every temptation

 

 

1 Corinthians 10

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.



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Is it possible to walk away from every temptation

 

 

1 Corinthians 10

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

 

 

The Greek word used for "temptation" in this verse is peirasmos and refers to trials and adversity, not temptation to sin.



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(1.) Can we honestly walk away from every temptation thrown at us so that we do not sin.  (2.) Do we have ultimate strength through the Holy Spirit to turn from every temptation.

 

Yes it is possibe so long as one is walking in the Spirit to not fall to any temptation.   It is only by His power that we can avoid successfully defeat temptation to sin.   No one falls into sin.  You fall into tempation, but you choose to sin.

 

The problem that we have an ongoing inward war and the best of us fall from time to time, that is why we have grace.  Grace isn't for the folks that get it right all of the time.  Grace is for the rest of us who stumble in a sincere attempt at serving the Lord.



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Is it possible to walk away from every temptation

 

 

1 Corinthians 10

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

 

 

The Greek word used for "temptation" in this verse is peirasmos and refers to trials and adversity, not temptation to sin.

 

 

1 Corinthians 10

Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.

And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play."

Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;

nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents;

10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.



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Is it possible to walk away from every temptation

 

 

1 Corinthians 10

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

 

 

The Greek word used for "temptation" in this verse is peirasmos and refers to trials and adversity, not temptation to sin.

 

 

1 Corinthians 10

Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.

And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play."

Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;

nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents;

10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

 

What's your point???



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What's your point???

 

 

"Trials and adversity" comes when we give in to temptation. So even if the verse read as follows, it still means temptation.

 

 

No "trial" or "adversity" has overtaken you except such as is common to man.....

 

 

 

Everything prior to verse 13 speaks of the consequences of falling into temptation. 



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What's your point???

 

 

"Trials and adversity" comes when we give in to temptation. So even if the verse read as follows, it still means temptation.

 

 

No "trial" or "adversity" has overtaken you except such as is common to man.....

 

 

 

Everything prior to verse 13 speaks of the consequences of falling into temptation. 

 

Yes trials  and adversity are what is overtaking a person and God has set a limit on the duration and intensity of those trials.   This passage is not talking about falling into a temptation to sin.  If anything it is revelation of God's sovereignty in our affairs that even in our trials, He is governing and keeping us being destroyed by those trials.  They cannot overtake us to the point that we can not bear them and are crushed by them. 

 

This is same word used the same way in Matthew  when Jesus prayed, "lead us not into temptation."  The word is not referring to a solicitation to do evil.  It refers to hardship and adversity, hence the antithetical parallelism, "lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."   In modern English, lead us not into trials but deliver us from the evil schemes of the enemy."   Thus the trials spoken of are those that are sent by  the enemy.

 

The point in I Cor.10:13 is that there is nothing the enemy can do to us that God is not faithfully helping us to overcome.



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This is same word used the same way in Matthew  when Jesus prayed, "lead us not into temptation."  The word is not referring to a solicitation to do evil.  It refers to hardship and adversity, hence the antithetical parallelism, "lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."   In modern English, lead us not into trials but deliver us from the evil schemes of the enemy."   Thus the trials spoken of are those that are sent by  the enemy.

 

The point in I Cor.10:13 is that there is nothing the enemy can do to us that God is not faithfully helping us to overcome.

 

 

Yeah, that verse is pretty much self explanatory. That's why I used it.



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Yes trials  and adversity are what is overtaking a person and God has set a limit on the duration and intensity of those trials.

 

Blessings shiloh357. What does God expect of us AFTER the intensity is over and that specific trial is accomplished in us.



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Yes trials  and adversity are what is overtaking a person and God has set a limit on the duration and intensity of those trials.

 

Blessings shiloh357. What does God expect of us AFTER the intensity is over and that specific trial is accomplished in us.

 

What I said is that God doesn't allow us to be overtaken by the trial. I didn't say that the trial is accomplished in us.   I dont' even know what you mean by that last phrase.



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What I said is that God doesn't allow us to be overtaken by the trial. I didn't say that the trial is accomplished in us.   I dont' even know what you mean by that last phrase.

 

Sorry I meant accomplished as in "lesson learned in repentance and conviction". :)



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Does that include sinful "thoughts"? I think it's possible to turn away from every temptation physically (even though it might take a life time to come to that point) but not mentally. In my opinion...

yes I do think we can sin with our thoughts and words. And temptation can be in both.



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Much love In Him,

I know the Bible gives us how "perfection" is...and we look at it and say-there is no way...But there is a way...He is The Way...

 

Also the Indwelling Holy Spirit has come to lead and guide us into all truth...but not only that...If the Same Who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you...Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, He Who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you...

 

so we also have empowered help for these dilemma's...

 

Hall, about our thoughts...The Bible says we can bring our thoughts into captivity to the obedience of Christ...2 Cor 10:5...I know that my sin almost led me to death-and I know that everything I do starts with a thought...and my particular thoughts got me in a lot of trouble...so I had to have help with them and I found that The Bible has every answer to every question...

 

Doing a word search: "thought" in The Bible...Biblegateway .com...Amazing and very enlightening!!!

 

Love you so much In Him...



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Much love In Him,

I know the Bible gives us how "perfection" is...and we look at it and say-there is no way...But there is a way...He is The Way...

 

Also the Indwelling Holy Spirit has come to lead and guide us into all truth...but not only that...If the Same Who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you...Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, He Who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you...

 

so we also have empowered help for these dilemma's...

 

Hall, about our thoughts...The Bible says we can bring our thoughts into captivity to the obedience of Christ...2 Cor 10:5...I know that my sin almost led me to death-and I know that everything I do starts with a thought...and my particular thoughts got me in a lot of trouble...so I had to have help with them and I found that The Bible has every answer to every question...

 

Doing a word search: "thought" in The Bible...Biblegateway .com...Amazing and very enlightening!!!

 

Love you so much In Him...

:thumbsup:  :thumbsup: ...a real delight in reading your encouragement there NeedYouLord.



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What I said is that God doesn't allow us to be overtaken by the trial. I didn't say that the trial is accomplished in us.   I dont' even know what you mean by that last phrase.

 

Sorry I meant accomplished as in "lesson learned in repentance and conviction". :)

 

 

1 Corinthians 10

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

 

 

That verse isn't about God testing us. It's simply stating that God won't leave us to our own devices. He watches over us and when temptations do arise, He will provide a way for us to flee those temptations, should we choose to do so. He won't leave us hanging.

 

That's all that verse is saying. It has nothing to do with testing us through adversity.

 

Not everything with God is a test.



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Thank you Man for the verse you quoted, it put me in mind of the following.

 

Words of encouragement.

 

Rom 8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.
 
Rom 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be [fn] against us?
Rom 8:32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things?
Rom 8:33 Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.
Rom 8:34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died--more than that, who was raised--who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. [fn]
Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written, "For your sake we are being killed all the day long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered."
Rom 8:37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers,
Rom 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
ESV Footnotes:
(8:31) Or who is
(8:34) Or Is it Christ Jesus who died . . . for us?
 
1Cr 2:9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
1Cr 2:10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
1Cr 2:11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
1Cr 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
1Cr 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Cr 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Cr 2:15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
1Cr 2:16 For "who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
 
Eph 3:20 Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
Eph 3:21 to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.

 

1Cr 10:13 No temptation [fn] has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted [fn] beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, [fn] he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it. 

 

NIV Footnotes:
(10:13) The Greek for temptation and tempted can also mean testing and tested.

 

Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. [fn] 

 

ESV Footnotes:
(6:13) Or the evil one; some manuscripts add For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever. Amen

 

Every blessing.

 

Edwin.

 


Edited by paredwin, 05 January 2014 - 07:40 AM.


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 (2.) Do we have ultimate strength through the Holy Spirit to turn from every temptation. The reason I'm asking is because some do not believe in once saved always saved (OSAS). Some might say, "well we have free will to walk away from temptation."  

 

 

We do have the free will to walk away from temptation.

 

I don't understand what the belief of OSAS has to do with it. Please explain.

 



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 (2.) Do we have ultimate strength through the Holy Spirit to turn from every temptation. The reason I'm asking is because some do not believe in once saved always saved (OSAS). Some might say, "well we have free will to walk away from temptation."  

 

 

We do have the free will to walk away from temptation.

 

I don't understand what the belief of OSAS has to do with it. Please explain.

 

 

 

Those who do not believe in OSAS thinks that our works get us into heaven, but in reality it's the grace of the Lord and his works that saves us. Salvation is a one time event, and after you're saved you are sealed forever. Repenting for a nonbeliever and a believer is completely different. When a nonbeliever repents he is coming to salvation. When a believer repents he is bringing himself closer and closer into the will of God. But if a believer dies suddenly without repenting he still goes to heaven because he is covered in the blood of Christ, thus the imperfection of humanity.






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