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Considering the prophecy of Matthew 24:29

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Pls what do you all think about Matthew chapter 24 verse 29. Does the prophecy imply being literal or symbolic? I have my own symbolic interpretation but I don't know your own opinions. I will gladly quote the passage. "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of space will be shaken" Concerning the part which says the moon will not shine, on my own opinion it means Islam will cease as a common religion or will cease to dominate the earth since the moon is a symbol of Islam. Islam will not give its light. I don't know the part about the sun but it should also be symbolic. The stars, in prophecy represents an angel. So the stars of heaven that will fall are perhaps fallen angels or spirits of the sky or gods that will lose their position in heavens. This may mean that worship of idols will cease. The powers of space or the heavens are perhaps the planets or stars or hosts. They will be shaken. The ancient Romans worshipped gods which had the name of planets for example Mercury the messenger of the gods and Jupiter the king. So the powers of heaven being shaken may mean that the planets which represent Roman gods will be shaken from their course. It may mean that Roman worship of gods or idolatry as a whole will cease to exist. Whereby God will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed. Islam and other pagan forms of worship will stop during or after the tribulation of those days. Pls I need your opinions.

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Mat 24:4  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 
Mat 24:5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 
Mat 24:6  And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 
Mat 24:7  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 
     The four horsemen have been unleashed. Revelation 6. We have seal 1 (NWO), Seal 2 WW3 in the middle east, war in America, seal 3 Inflation and seal 4 death. At seal 4 we have death which includes famine and pestilence.  Cross reference (Mark 13: 8; Rev 6:1-8). 2014
Mat 24:8  All these are the beginning of sorrows. 
Mat 24:9  Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.  Persecution of the Saints (CR Mark 13: 9-13; Rev 6:9-11). 2014
Mat 24:10  And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 
Mat 24:11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 
Mat 24:12  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 
Mat 24:13  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 
Mat 24:14  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 
Mat 24:15  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 2014
Mat 24:16  Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 
Mat 24:17  Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 
Mat 24:18  Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 
Mat 24:19  And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 
Mat 24:20  But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 
    Matthew 24:15-20 (cr Mark 13:14-22)  At the Abomination of Desolation begins the Great Tribulation which is three and a half years (1260 days) before the Day of the Trumpet prior to Armageddon during the Ten Days of Awe which is in September of 2017 if that is His return. Since the Ten Days of Awe is in September, then the Tribulation began during September 7 years earlier. Feast of Tabernacles September last week 2010
     Abomination of Desolation. (CR: Dan 11:31; 12:11; Jer 32:34; Dan 9:27; I Mac 1:54; 6:7).  This is before the Day of the Lord or the wrath of the Lamb found in Rev. 6:17 (CR. Isa 2:19,2:21). Most believe a statue will be placed in the temple area and the antichrist sits on it.
     In six different verses that period is referred to as either 3½ years, 42 months or 1260 days (Dan 9:27; Dan 7:25; Rev 12:14; Rev 11:2; Rev 13:5; Rev 11:3). (
    Rev 6:12-17 This occurs at a red-blood moon when the sun is darkened.
   Great Tribulation begins. This is also called the Day of the Lord, Time of Jacob's Trouble, Last Day (2-3 views).  Rev 6:17 lines up with Isa 2:12 which says Day of the Lord.
Mat 24:21  For then shall be great tribulation (Acts 1;6; Rev 3:10; Jer 30:7), such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 
    In six different verses this period is referred to as either 3½ years, 42 months or 1260 days (Dan 9:27; Dan 7:25; Rev 12:14; Rev 11:2; Rev 13:5; Rev 11:3). 
     The Great Tribulation covers over 400+++ scriptures.
    Folders covering such on CD: Tribulation; Propohecy; Prophecy Code (Prophecy Verses); The Coming Epiphany; Revelation; Daniel; Holidays: Day of the Trumpet, Days of Awe, Day of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles. If you combine all these folders, it covers over 1000 pages.
      The colossal scenes of the Revelation, beginning with Chapter 5 and the opening of the seven-sealed book, through Chapter 10 (Seals through Trumpets), form a prelude to worldwide commotion prior to the Great Tribulation itself described in Rev Chap 11-18.  The Great Tribulation is identical with the last three and one-half years of Daniel's seventieth week of years (Dan 9:24-27; Rev 11;2-3). Unger's Bible Dictionary.
     To date timeline start if 2017 is the Day of the Trumpet, then it would be in April of 2014. 
     Note: (If (above)) If He returns after 2017 has to be supported by the number of 50 (Jubilee) and 70 (total completion). The next possibilty is in 2067. Too long of a discussion for this article.
      Psalm 2 gives a good outline of this time period.  Nations raging (v.2),  derision of Jehovah (v. 4). It eventuates in the establishment of the rejected King in Zion 2:6) and the subjugation of the earth to the King's millennial rule (vv. 7-9), with a present appeal to Gentile world powers to be warned by the certainty of the establishment of Christ's kingdom (vv. 10-12). According to Rev 13-19, there will be the cruel reign of the "beast coming up out of the sea" (The Antichrist) (13:1) who, breaking his covenant with the Jews (2 Thess 2:4), will demand divine worship.  This earth ruler, the Beast, is empowered by Satan, and the entire terrific episode of fighting God is made possible by the unprecedented activity of demons (Rev 9:1-11; 16:13-16).
     The character of the period is clearly revealed in Scipture. It is a time of "wrath" (Zeph 1:15-18; I Thess 1:10; 5:9; Rev 6:16-17; 11:18; 14:10, 19; 15:1, 7; 19:2); indignation" (Isa 26:20-21; 34:1-3); "trial" (Rev 3:10); "trouble" (Jer 30:7; Zeph 1:14-15; Dan 12:1); "destruction" (Joel 1:15; I Thess 5:3); "darkness" (Joel 2:2; Amos 5:18; Zeph 1:14-18); "desolation" (Dan 9:27; Zeph 1:14-15); "overturning" (Isa 24:1-4, 19-21); "punishment" (Isa 24:20-21).
     God will pour out judgment upon believing men and nations (Rev 3:10; Jer 25:32-33; Isa 24:1; II Thess 2:10). These judgments will fall both directly from God and indirectly through men and armies.
     The nations proceeding out of the Roman Empire will be federated into a world power again (Dan 2 and &; Rev 17:12, 16-17). The head of the empire is known as the little horn (Dan 7:8), the Abomination of Desolation (Matt 24:15), the man of sin (II Thess 2:3), the Antichrist  (I Jn 2:18), and the beast (Rev 13:1-10). This political ruler will make a covenant with Israel (Dan 9:27). The King of the North, also known as Gog (Ezk 38), will oppose him (Dan 11:40) but will be destroyed by the Lord upon invading Palestine (Ezk 39). With that strong power removed, the Antichrist will be able to control world government. A great religious system, centering in the worship of this political figure, will be promoted by the false prophet (Rev 13:11-18) which will become worldwide. At the return of Christ this politico-religious system will be destroyed (Rev 19:20).
 
 
Mat 24:22  (Mk 13:20) And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened (Lev 23:24; Day of the Trumpet); Amos 8:9 (Day of the Lord (400 + verses); Rev 8:12 Fourth Trumpet--1/3 light darkened. 
   In essence, this refers to the time period between Abomination of Desolation and the Day of the Trumpet.
     The end of the days being shortened is caused by the return of Christ at Trumpets cutting off the Great Tribulation at the worst part of the Great Tribulation.
    If this went on and on without an intervention of Christ and thus a shortening of the days of this period of Antichrist, false christs and false prophets, "no flesh should be saved." And that shortening does not have to negate any of 1260 days of Daniel's 70th week as the Great Tribulation period. 
Mat 24:23  Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 
Mat 24:24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 
Mat 24:25  Behold, I have told you before. 
Mat 24:26  Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 
Mat 24:27  For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 
Mat 24:28  For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 
     The tribulation will be terminated by the second advent of the Lord Jesus Christ to the earth (Matt 24:22, 29-30; Rev 19:11-16; Zech 14:1-7). 
Mat 24:29  Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:  (Mark 13:24-27. 
    Darkened: Rev:6:12; Amos 8:9 (Day of the Lord); Isa 13:10; Joel 3:15--Armageddon; Rev 8:12 4th Trumpet 1/3 darkened.
   The only light at this time is Christ. Take 29 literally. It is just like the four blood moons. A solar eclipse can be up to two weeks before a lunar eclipse. The stars are asteroids and meteors. The powers of heaven can possibly refer to an earthquake on earth. We won't know because most of us won't be here.
    If this verse refers to Revelation 6:12-17 then this begins the Day of the Lord after the trumpet judgments which may occur after September of 2014, 2015, 2016.
    This is the prewrath view.
    Starting in April 2014 begins the Great Tribulation.


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Feast Days and God 
 
Why are Feast Days important to God?
 
Can't God do other things on other days. Yes He can as long as it lines up on His agenda but He let's man line it up by choice or their wills
   As for 10/28-29/2010, that date would have to be done by man.
 
Here's the list of God's doings and they all connect to Sabbaths (Lev 23, 25) God's Biblical Calendar as you know is what God follows. So His Sabbaths are important to Him
 Gen 2:1-3 And He rested on the 7th day --Sabbath (Saturday) We say Shabbat Shalom. (Have a restful sabbath)
 
4 BC Kislev 22 Approximately  One Saturday during Chanukkah. On that Sabbath, Yeshua was conceived on a Feast of Dedication, Festival of Light.
3 BC September Annual Sabbath Yeshua was born Regular Sabbath, Yeshua was circumcised.
Feast of Tabernacles
Virgo Event. tccsa.tc/articles/star_dates.html
wnd.com/2013/08/was-jesus-born-sept-11-3-b-c/
feastsofthelord.net/id156.html
Also Noah's Ark landed on Mount Ararat.
 
March 
Abib First Month Ab Head  1 God
10. Selection of the Lamb   Moon Apogee
      The selection of the Passover lamb. (Ex 12:3). Fast for Miriam (Num 20:1) and in memory of the scarcity of water (Num 20:2). Crossing the Jordan (Joshua 4).
12. Tzav Shabbat Hagadel  Lev 6:1-8:36; Mal 3:4-24
13. Search for Chametz After Nightfall
14. Passover Eve (Pesach Eve)  15  (15 in Diaspora)
      Commemorates the Exodus of the Jewish people from ancient Egypt. 
15. Feast of Unleavened Bread   
Full Moon  Red Blood At 3 PM, the moon birthed at Virgo.
16. or 18. Feast of First Fruits
Week Pesach  Passover  Death, Burial, Resurrection of Christ
 Leo July 23 - Aug. 22
 
Leo the Lion is a Winter constellation, and can be best viewed in the night during the month of March.
 Virgo Aug. 23 - Sept. 22
Virgo the Virgin is a Spring constellation, and can be best viewed during the month of April.
bethlehemstar.net/day/day.htm
Lunar Eclipse  33 AD April 3    
 
Sivan
Pentecost Marriage, Holy Spirit 
Libra Sept. 23 - Oct. 23
 
Libra the Scales is a Spring constellation, and can be best viewed in the night sky during the month of May.
 
2.  "Feast of Pentecost," or "Feast of Weeks," because it came seven weeks after Passover (Lev 23:15-21). Be-Midbar; Num 1:1-4:20; Hos 2:1-22
5. Shavuot Eve; 49 Omer
6. Shavuot; Ten Commandments are read
6. Sivan - Israel (6 & 7 In Diaspora)    Moses Receives The Torah (Pentecost) - Celebrating Elohim's giving of the Torah and Ten Commandments to the Jews at Mt. Sinai. Memorial (Yizkor) services said (on 2nd day in diaspora). Work Restrictions: Sabbath-like work restrictions one day in Israel - two days in diaspora. Work Restrictions: No restrictions on work.
     King David died on this day.
 
Israel became a nation on Pentecost 1948
Main text: Ezekiel 36-40
 
Summarized:
From the date when Ezekiel measured the visionary temple in Ezekiel 40 unto 1948 when Israel became a nation again are 1260 plus 1260 years. 
It happens that 1260 plus 1260 days is an important seven-year period in the bible, spoken of in Rev. 11-13 and elsewhere. (360 x 7 days.)
573 BC Nisan 10, plus 1260 years plus 1260 years 
= AD 1948 Pentecost
     Note: It can be shown that even the Jewish calendar of Iyar 6 could have been Sivan 6th {i.e., Pentecost} that year since the month began very late that year. Sivan 5th is Pentecost on the 360 calendar while Sivan 6th is Pentecost on the regular Jewish calendar. This is because the month of Iyar only has 29 days in it on the regular Jewish calendar, whereas the 360 calendar always has 30 days.
     Ezekiel 40:1 (ASV) In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after that the city was smitten, in the selfsame day, the hand of Jehovah was upon me, and he brought me thither. ( Nisan 10, 573 BC.)
1260-1290-days-bible-prophecy.org/bible_prophecy-Israel-nation-1260-years-2x.htm
 
Israel became a nation on Sivan 5th on the 360 calendar, but which was May 14 evening to May 15 evening in 1948. 
 
Tishrei
1-2 Tishrei On Rosh Hashanah, man is judged regarding his fulfillment of the purpose of the world's existence. 
     The sixth day of Creation was on the first of Tishrei. The Day of judgement for Adam as well as for all generations is alluded to by the Sixth Day: On the sixth day of Creation, man must account for his fulfillment of the Five Books of the Torah.
10. Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement)
15-21 Sukkot (Feast of Booths) 
17. Noah’s Ark rested on Mount Ararat.
21. Hoshanah Rabah
22. Shimhat Torah Last Day of Feast of Tabernacles. Feast for law being finished; dedication of Solomon's Temple.
Leo July 23 - Aug. 22
 
Leo the Lion is a Winter constellation, and can be best viewed in the night during the month of March.
 Virgo Aug. 23 - Sept. 22
Virgo the Virgin is a Spring constellation, and can be best viewed during the month of April.
 
2010
Feast of Tabernacles  September 5 Planets lined up
Uranus, Earth, Sun, Saturn, and one other in the sign of Virgo. September 30 2010
 
Lunar  Solar Eclipses
   A tetrad of lunar eclipses on feast days has only occurred two times in the last 500 years; 1949/50, and 1967/68. During each of those tetrads of total eclipses Israel was at war. 
   Though Israel was declared an independent state sixty years ago in 1948, the war with its neighbors began after its first day and lasted for a year. Therefore, the first lunar eclipse of 1949 occurred during this war for the establishment of Israel. The next tetrad began on Passover 1967, which was just six weeks before the Six-Day-War. Therefore, these two significant wars of Israel were covered by each tetrad period.
    The time before those tetrads of eclipses on feast days was in 1493/4. In 1492 the Jews were kicked out of Spain. Another interesting fact is that all of these tetrads occurred in Hebrew “pregnant years” or years with 13 months. 
 
Virgo and 2011
On Rosh Hashana (Day of the Trumpet), September 29/30, 2011, Virgo formed into a specific mode.  
 
“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars”.  (Rev 12:1).
 
The constellation had the moon at the feet while the sun shone, and comet Elenin had broken apart giving the 12 stars at her head.  “And she, being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered” (Rev 12:2).  Found in the womb of Virgo was the planet Venus (the Jesus star).  
 
“And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads”. (Rev 12:3).  There was also in the womb with Venus, Saturn, the dragon star (Satan) and both occupied the womb together.
“And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them down to the earth:  and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born”.  (Rev 12:4)  About the time of Hanukkah, Christmas time 2011, Venus had exited the womb of Virgo.  
    Satan exited Virgo on 11/11/11 which is a bad omen for occultists.
 
2014/2015 Lunar and Solar Eclipses 
In 2014 and 2015 there will be 4 blood moon total lunar eclipses all falling on feast days.
1. Passover, April 15, 2014   Abomination of Desolation approximately.
2. Tabernacles October 8, 2014
3. Passover, April 4, 2015
4. Tabernacles, September 28, 2015
 
There are two solar eclipses that align on significant dates.
1. Adar 29/Nisan 1 (Beginning of the religious calendar): March 20-21, 2015 Total eclipse
2. Rosh Hashanah: September 14, 2015 | September 13, 2015 Partial eclipse
You have the religious year beginning with the total solar eclipse, two weeks later a total lunar eclipse on Passover, and then the civil year beginning with the solar eclipse followed two weeks later by another total blood red moon on the Feast of Succoth all in 2015.
The Coming Epiphany.com
 
2017
6th Day War in Israel 1967+Jubilee=2018
Israel became a nation 1948+70=2017  Pentecost
Judah ben Samuel Prophecy
   Jubilees 1-8 (1517 to 1917): Turks will rule. 
Jubilee 9 (1917 to 1967): Jerusalem a “no man’s land.” 
Jubilee 10 (1967 to 2017): Jerusalem under Jewish control, Messianic end times will begin. 
Jubilee 11: Begins at Yom Kippur 9/30/17.
 
Lineup of Virgo and Leo (Lion-King)  (Rev 12:1-6)
Completion of Jubilees 120 Year Jubilee ends.
Giza Pyramids of 2017
 
September  Tishrei 7th Month  Return of Christ
Day of the Trumpet Rosh Codesh First sliver of the new moon.
Rev 14:14-20 at Armageddon (Rev 16:16ff; 19:?). Wheat-Tares cut by a scaythe (Leo's Tail)
Day of Atonment  Judgment of the Nations (Matt 25  Sheep and Goats
 
Feast of Tabernacles  MIllennium
Rev 19:6-8 Marriage of the Lamb (Trumpet through Millennium)
 
These are the times important to God. He follows the Sabbaths and we follow mankind dates.
 
Resouces Pillar of Enoch.com Timeline
The Coming Epiphany.com, The Coming Epiphany
CD/Holidays/Passover/Jewish Calendar, Astronomy/Chanukkah 2011-2017. 


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What does all this feast have to do with the signs given by our Lord? Pls I need more enlightenment.

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Kingdom,

Christ fulfilled the first spring feasts exactly to the day, one can only assume that the rest of the Fall Feasts, He will also fulfill, Exactly.

With the Red moon Tetrad coming on the feast days, being such a rare occasion, there is much speculation, without date setting of course, that the remaining Feasts could be fulfilled in this time period.

Look into the Jewish Feasts (practice rehearsals) and how Christ fulfilled the first four(?).

Here's one random website http://www.waitingfo...tsprophecy.html



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Hi kingdomwitness

 

I notice you are in Nigeria. I used to work with a guy from Nigeria named Femi. Did you know him ?

(just kidding)

In Corrie ten Boom's letter she says Christians in Africa are having a hard time. This would be good for everyone to read before The Tribulation begins.

 

http://www.fellowshi...orrie-ten-boom-

 

I searched "Christians in Nigeria" and found things like this:

 

http://news.yahoo.co...-160632023.html

 

I hope you are in a safe location over there. Over here in North America Christians like me grew up spoiled. The Earth helped The Women over here.

 

Pls what do you all think about Matthew chapter 24 verse 29. Does the prophecy imply being literal or symbolic? I have my own symbolic interpretation but I don't know your own opinions. I will gladly quote the passage. "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of space will be shaken" Concerning the part which says the moon will not shine, on my own opinion it means Islam will cease as a common religion or will cease to dominate the earth since the moon is a symbol of Islam. Islam will not give its light. I don't know the part about the sun but it should also be symbolic. The stars, in prophecy represents an angel. So the stars of heaven that will fall are perhaps fallen angels or spirits of the sky or gods that will lose their position in heavens. 

 

I am positive that Matthew chapter 24 verse 29 is talking about a literal Sun being darkened and a literal Moon not giving it's light. I'm sure this is the same event as Rev. 6:12. As for the stars falling from Heaven I'm not sure. Could be all the Holy Angels coming down to gather us up from the four corners of the earth.

 

31 "And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

 

This might look strange to the bad guys. I wonder what billions of Holy Angels would look like zooming down from the sky to pick us up.

I don't think Islam is going to have anything to do with this. 

 

Stay safe

 

David



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I thought I answered this before. I guess not. Hmmmm

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of space will be shaken"

Ok, here is my two cents-

After the trib of those days means exactly that-after the trib. I'd say it is 3.5 years from the abomination of desolation.

Sun will be darkened and moon not give light means exactly that to me.

Stars falling can mean meteors falling (shooting stars)

Powers of space shaken- not sure about this except I'm pretty sure whatever shaking means is going on it's up in outer space.

I hope this helps.

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... Does the prophecy imply being literal or symbolic? I have my own symbolic interpretation but I don't know your own opinions. I will gladly quote the passage. "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of space will be shaken"

Hello Kingdomwitness,

 

Matthew 24:9 is a good verse to question, and a scary one.

 

First, let me try to gently warn you that the Holy Bible talks about two things and two things only- God and His people.

 

All the verses in Matthew 24 are parables, which means they could have both a literal and Spiritual (symbolic) interpretation; which is what verse 29 has.

 

- The literal interpretation is just what it says, on the Last Day, just before the Son of man returns our sun goes dark.

 

- The Spiritual interpretation describes a Spiritual desolation that occurrs upon the earth before the return of the Son of man on the Last Day.

 

The sun would be God or Jesus Christ because He is the Spiritual Life for man upon the earth. The moon could be several things but mostly it would represent the corporate Church. The earth would represent unsaved man, or God's field for harvest. The Light of the Sun would then be the Holy Spirit.

 

Knowing all of this, we can say that before the second appearance of the Lord Jesus Christ the Holy Spirit shall be withheld from the corporate Church (God's wrath), which means the Church becomes Spiritually darkened. And this would have implications seen within the corporate Church as it would become even more rebellious and estranged from God, and it would also be seen in the world of men as Godless fear.



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The bible also contains prophecies of future false religions and may not be centered on God's people alone. It can also predict the coming of false prophets and religions.

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Hi kingdomwitness

I notice you are in Nigeria. I used to work with a guy from Nigeria named Femi. Did you know him ?
(just kidding)
In Corrie ten Boom's letter she says Christians in Africa are having a hard time. This would be good for everyone to read before The Tribulation begins.

http://www.fellowshi...orrie-ten-boom-

I searched "Christians in Nigeria" and found things like this:

http://news.yahoo.co...-160632023.html

I hope you are in a safe location over there. Over here in North America Christians like me grew up spoiled. The Earth helped The Women over here.

Pls what do you all think about Matthew chapter 24 verse 29. Does the prophecy imply being literal or symbolic? I have my own symbolic interpretation but I don't know your own opinions. I will gladly quote the passage. "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of space will be shaken" Concerning the part which says the moon will not shine, on my own opinion it means Islam will cease as a common religion or will cease to dominate the earth since the moon is a symbol of Islam. Islam will not give its light. I don't know the part about the sun but it should also be symbolic. The stars, in prophecy represents an angel. So the stars of heaven that will fall are perhaps fallen angels or spirits of the sky or gods that will lose their position in heavens.


I am positive that Matthew chapter 24 verse 29 is talking about a literal Sun being darkened and a literal Moon not giving it's light. I'm sure this is the same event as Rev. 6:12. As for the stars falling from Heaven I'm not sure. Could be all the Holy Angels coming down to gather us up from the four corners of the earth.

31 "And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

This might look strange to the bad guys. I wonder what billions of Holy Angels would look like zooming down from the sky to pick us up.
I don't think Islam is going to have anything to do with this.

Stay safe

David
. Well am good over here in Nigeria even with a radical Islamic sect known as Boko Haram terrorising the northern part of Nigeria and killing the Christians. We in the southern part are okay.

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Matthew 24:29 is in regard to the second coming.



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Blessings kingdomwitness

       Glory to God,,,I take it literally...........the sun being darkened can be due to many things cloud of dust from a nuclear explosion,eclipse,or something supernatural & the moon of course will not give its light as it reflects the light from the sun,so if the sun is darkened(however that be)the moon will also be

      The stars may be falling could be meteor showers,or supernatural phenomenon   Powers of space shaken....wow,maybe our atmosphere from nuclear aftershock,demonic activities in upper atmosphere,could be anything but i know one thing...."gonna be a whole lotta shakin goin on"                       Praise Jesus

                                                                                                                           With love-in Christ,Kwik



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Halleluyah kwik. Well to put it clear, Islam could be seen as either the moon or the second lamb-like beast of Revelation. The two horns of the lamb could be the Shia and the Sunni, the two main branches of Islam. Religious Rome could also play the role as the 2nd beast.

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Halleluyah kwik. Well to put it clear, Islam could be seen as either the moon or the second lamb-like beast of Revelation. The two horns of the lamb could be the Shia and the Sunni, the two main branches of Islam. Religious Rome could also play the role as the 2nd beast.


Hey witness,

I haven't noticed you answering or commenting on any of the posts I have made in your threads. Now, if I were a sensitive Vulcan which I'm not, I might take this omission to mean you don't like guys with pointed ears or maybe what I say is so eloquently stated that they require no further elaboration. Which one is it?

Anyhow, I just wanted you to know, I am a huge fan of yours. You inspire me. Thanks for that.

Spock out

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Thanks Spock my brother for the nice words. Anyway there is this issue of a project 666 going on. Check the link http://the666.com

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I thought I answered this before. I guess not. Hmmmm

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of space will be shaken"

Ok, here is my two cents-

After the trib of those days means exactly that-after the trib. I'd say it is 3.5 years from the abomination of desolation.

Sun will be darkened and moon not give light means exactly that to me.

Stars falling can mean meteors falling (shooting stars)

Powers of space shaken- not sure about this except I'm pretty sure whatever shaking means is going on it's up in outer space.

I hope this helps.

Stars falling are angels descending on the earth  :lightbulb2:



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Angels descending on earth in what way?




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