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I would really like to hear everyone's opinions and thoughts on fasting.  In another thread the topic of fasting has come up and it prompted me to start this thread to understand what you might believe concerning this.  I have special interest in understanding the specifics of fasting when being involved in deliverance ministries.

 

Thank you in advance for taking the time to answer.

 

Yours in Christ Jesus,

Prair



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Study Isaiah 58



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Fasting is the basis or the foundation to having a good relationship with God. But fasting alone can't work without having the fruits of the spirit particularly love.

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My church wants to do a church wide fast. Since many medically cannot fast, there has been some discussion on what fasting means and can it apply to non food stuff too. 

 

As best as I can recall, one of the two words for fasting in the bible in Hebrew translates literally to afflicting the soul. Not afflicting the soul with a lack of food. So in that case, it would seem that fasting with other non food things would be permitted. Regardless, it has to be at a cost. Fasting from brussel sprouts (as the joke has been in church) doesnt count. 



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I have never fasted...  :noidea:



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I think I understand you, Jade, and my understanding says this is like certain practices during the Lenten season when someone "gives up something for Lent", as I have heard said.  I have not done this, but I have known others who would make some sort of sacrifice through this particular time.  It could be food, or an activity they enjoy, something that would be considered a sacrifice because of their enjoyment in eating, or doing a particular thing.

 

What was the motivating factor behind the decision your church has made?  Was it for a specific reason?  

 

You know, I happen to really like brussel sprouts!  Giving them up might be a sacrifice for me, as would be giving up any vegetable.  Now that I think of it, giving up FOOD is a great sacrifice!  I kind of like food in general. 

 

Because of the spiritual significance of a fast, I want to learn more.  I am particularly interested to understand why Jesus informed His disciples that certain kinds of spirits came out only by fasting and prayer.  This is why I wondered the reason your church was holding a fast, if it was something specific or not.

 

In one of the other threads I began on ancient practices and rituals that are not widely observed today, I am attempting to understand the purposes of such things and seeking information from others about their beliefs.  Seems to me that there is a sort of come back on these rituals.  Growing up I had not heard of modern day foot washings, prayer cloths being used, or too much on fasting.   I find it all quite interesting.

 

Thanks so much for your input, everyone.

 

Peace to you and God bless,

PrairWarur



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We recently had a change in leadership, with a new pastor. We just had a meeting where he told us what he would like to see as the direction our church takes, outreaches etc. So he wanted to start off with a fast. He wasnt demanding anyone partake or even in what way one partakes. It got me wondering about the ways someone who medically couldnt fast could participate.



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While I was praying intensely for my husbands salvation some 40 years ago, I was aware of a spiritual battle going on. But my prayers were so intense and constant that I had really wasn't hungry. This went on for several years, so it was not a total fast for long periods.
I know of some people who fast one day a week. The never told us till much later, but they were fasting and praying because of a wayward daughter. They would meet us for lunch but only have a beverage.

A man I knew in the Baptist church was tired of the way he treated his family, he retreated for a week of fasting and prayer in the mountains in dead winter because he so desperately wanted his life to change. Luckily he had survivalist training in the military.

We are told in the Bible it should be a private type of thing in which we humble ourselves before God. We shouldn't be a martyr about it and complain and go about with long faces.

I am sure that the people who fasted and prayed about deliverance did so to better hear and obey God in these circumstances. So one should attempt such a thing except by totally relying on God's direction and power. I personally believe that this is not a thing that women should pursue but occasionally a person may be forced to by circumstances. In most cases it is the church elders who do this in churches I have attended and it is done very quietly if possible. The people in question were escorted out and dealt with in another room. The leadership fasts and prays for the services on Saturday and Sunday..

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I am inclined to think that if God calls someone to fast, then no matter their medical condition He will take care of them.  Who knows?  They may even receive a much needed healing.   For those of you with medical concerns, there are partial fasts that can be done.  One could fast from things like candy with no ill affects, or certain foods, even fast by going on a liquid diet, or as Willamina said, just fast for one day a week, even certain hours a day.

 

 I am still not sure of your Pastor's intentions, Jade, but I think I might understand that the fasting will bring you all closer to God and give you the ability to "hear" Him better.  This action may also move your church into a fantastic revival that will make waves in all of your area.  Praise God!  That would be fantastic!

 

I like what you said, Willamina, and understand now that this would bring a person to more intense prayer, especially when interceding for someone.  I will research some of the things you have mentioned.  I do know Scripture backs up your words about doing this publicly.  God never wants us to make a show of our personal walk with Him and our prayer time.

 

I think I will also study Matthew 4 again.  I will read various commentaries, also.  I am continually amazed at The Living Word of God which speaks to me in a new way each day.  It doesn't matter how many times I have read certain Scriptures, God still reveals something new each time.  PTL

 

Thank you all again in your help to me as I explore this topic.  May God lead you today in His glorious ways and may He bless you very much!

 

Peace to you!

 

Yours in Christ Jesus,

PrairWarur



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Jade, would you please keep us posted on the progress of the fast?  I would like to be updated on how things go, and the results you see.

 

Thanks,

PrairWarur



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I would really like to hear everyone's opinions and thoughts on fasting.  In another thread the topic of fasting has come up and it prompted me to start this thread to understand what you might believe concerning this.  I have special interest in understanding the specifics of fasting when being involved in deliverance ministries.

 

Thank you in advance for taking the time to answer.

 

Yours in Christ Jesus,

Prair

In Mark's gospel, it is recorded that the disciples were unable to cast a devil out of a man.  When they asked Jesus why, he gave them this answer in Mark 9:29.

 

This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.

 

There is no question that in some instances, the person trying to cast out a devil must have been fasting and praying before hand to be successful.  As far as fasting itself goes, there are different kinds of fasts.  Sometimes it means no food and water, but you need to be very cautious there because you can't go long without water without doing serious harm.  Sometimes it means no food, but just liquid or in some cases, just water.  In the case of Daniel's fast, he stayed away from pleasant foods, so he did eat, but just something to keep up his strength.  He stayed away from foods he liked. 



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Thank you, Butero.  These are my thoughts, also.

 

Peace to you and God bless,

Prair






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