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What does the Bible say about judging atheists.

The Bible is strange about judgment...test the spirits vs Matt 7:1

Where does it say we have authority to test atheists,

because scripture says we can test false prophets.

Are atheists considered false prophets since they flat out deny the Word?

Can we judge their sin or judge their teachings?



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What does the Bible say about judging atheists.

The Bible is strange about judgment...test the spirits vs Matt 7:1

Where does it say we have authority to test atheists,

because scripture says we can test false prophets.

Are atheists considered false prophets since they flat out deny the Word?

As far as I am aware, most Atheists don't make future predictions, so I guess they don't count as false prophets.



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What does the Bible say about judging atheists.

The Bible is strange about judgment...test the spirits vs Matt 7:1

Where does it say we have authority to test atheists,

because scripture says we can test false prophets.

Are atheists considered false prophets since they flat out deny the Word?

As far as I am aware, most Atheists don't make future predictions, so I guess they don't count as false prophets.

 

 

If we see sin from an atheist, how do we approach them.



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What does the Bible say about judging atheists.
The Bible is strange about judgment...test the spirits vs Matt 7:1
Where does it say we have authority to test atheists,
because scripture says we can test false prophets.
Are atheists considered false prophets since they flat out deny the Word?

As far as I am aware, most Atheists don't make future predictions, so I guess they don't count as false prophets.




 
If we see sin from an atheist, how do we approach them.

John 3:16-18
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
KJV

1 John 5:1
5 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
KJV

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What does the Bible say about judging atheists.

The Bible is strange about judgment...test the spirits vs Matt 7:1

Where does it say we have authority to test atheists,

because scripture says we can test false prophets.

Are atheists considered false prophets since they flat out deny the Word?

Can we judge their sin or judge their teachings?

You can judge whoever you like, but be aware you will be judged by the standard you judge other by (Matt 7:2)



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What does the Bible say about judging atheists.

The Bible is strange about judgment...test the spirits vs Matt 7:1

Where does it say we have authority to test atheists,

because scripture says we can test false prophets.

Are atheists considered false prophets since they flat out deny the Word?

Can we judge their sin or judge their teachings?

 

When I talk to people about Jesus, I often ask them a question....

 

Who would you say Jesus is to you?

 

Based on the answer, I have an idea where they stand and I can enter the discussion based on their answer. For an atheist, it is highly likely that I will judge their answer and determine that they need to hear the gospel.



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It depends what you mean by judgment. I don't think it's wrong to weigh a man's character and decide whether he's the sort of person I want to be spending time with, be that person atheist or otherwise. Paul said in 1 Corinthians that bad company ruins good morals, and I don't think anyone can disagree with that. Most of my atheist friends are broken into two categories- those that don't give a monkeys about faith, and so don't challenge mine. But then there's the militant atheist, who is offended by the very idea of a deity who could judge him/her. Those are the kind that insult the Bible and God, and could get a newly saved Christian questioning there faith. So I wouldn't spend time with that kind of atheist. 

 

We absolutely cannot judge another man's sin, be him atheist, Sikh, Muslim or any other faith. I often some up salvation by mentioning the Trinity- God the Father sent God the Son to preach the Gospel and die for our sins. God the Son was raised and sent God the Spirit to dwell inside all believers. This enables man to testify about God coherently. See how it's all God, God, God. Man had nothing to do with salvation, so we can't boast of it and judge the unsaved. I'm only saved because Jesus called me to Salvation. How can I judge if I can't even say I saved myself? I know it sounds obvious, but the only difference between an atheist and us is God.



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What does the Bible say about judging atheists.

The Bible is strange about judgment...test the spirits vs Matt 7:1

Where does it say we have authority to test atheists,

because scripture says we can test false prophets.

Are atheists considered false prophets since they flat out deny the Word?

Can we judge their sin or judge their teachings?

 

If they are considered prophets, they would be the prophets of nought. Whats really to judge concerning athiests?

 

An athiest would be considered that which is without, even Paul speaks of those which are without,

 

1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

 

An athiest then is not one which calls himself a brother (or as one who is within). Theres not much to discern but unbelief. It says the fool says in his heart there is no God. But agreeing with that is not judging them but rather aproving the word of truth. Being justified in ones sayings according to the scripture of truth, and especially in those things where men are without excuse.

 

To judge those who are without of what really? Unbelief maybe?

 

I wouldnt know how someone would do that anyway.

 

At least Paul clarifies who he was speaking of and that applies to those within (not without) or that which calls himself a brother as he goes on to say.



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But if we know someone who is comitting fornication for example or drinking every day and nobody says anything, then is that the way of God.

Love the fornicator and the alcoholic until he/she impregnants someone or their liver goes bad.

That's ok though, I loved them in the end and didn't judge them. 



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Just share what will not enter the Kingdom of God.

 

Says dont be deceived concerning who will not enter the Kingdom of God, its not judging anyone decalring the truth of that.



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Just share what will not enter the Kingdom of God.

 

Says dont be deceived concerning who will not enter the Kingdom of God, its not judging anyone decalring the truth of that.

 

I'm not judging them by telling them they are sinners? All this time I thought I've been doing something wrong and feeling guilty. :(



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Why?

 

Good and upright is the LORD and he shall teach sinners in the way.

 

You can do a keyword search on sinners, its not a sin to admit the truth about who Christ died for.  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.



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Why?

 

Good and upright is the LORD and he shall teach sinners in the way.

 

You can do a keyword search on sinners, its not a sin to admit the truth about who Christ died for.  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

 

I dunno, I feel that someone is going to get hurt either way if we admit their sins to them. Hurting or upsetting people is part of the deal I guess, no matter how gently you tell them.



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Weeping and gnashing a bit later on being cast outside would hurt worse I believe.

 

But yeah, folks might reproach you, but if you are speaking His words to them they are really reproaching Him but its just falling on you.



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Weeping and gnashing a bit later on being cast outside would hurt worse I believe.

 

But yeah, folks might reproach you, but if you are speaking His words to them they are really reproaching Him but its just falling on you.

 

True, well Jesus did say persecution would come.



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Weeping and gnashing a bit later on being cast outside would hurt worse I believe.

 

But yeah, folks might reproach you, but if you are speaking His words to them they are really reproaching Him but its just falling on you.

 

True, well Jesus did say persecution would come.

 

Yeah, and for the word's sake.



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Weeping and gnashing a bit later on being cast outside would hurt worse I believe.

 

But yeah, folks might reproach you, but if you are speaking His words to them they are really reproaching Him but its just falling on you.

 

True, well Jesus did say persecution would come.

 

Yeah, and for the word's sake.

 

 

I can't imagine how Jesus felt dying on the cross like that, dying for people's sin. The pain must of been wrenching.



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Weeping and gnashing a bit later on being cast outside would hurt worse I believe.

 

But yeah, folks might reproach you, but if you are speaking His words to them they are really reproaching Him but its just falling on you.

 

I agree with this statement. Its better to warn the person of the impending future doom than to send them there by not saying anything at all.



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But if we know someone who is comitting fornication for example or drinking every day and nobody says anything, then is that the way of God.

Love the fornicator and the alcoholic until he/she impregnants someone or their liver goes bad.

That's ok though, I loved them in the end and didn't judge them. 

I think we have to differentiate between correction and judgement. One, you can't correct a non-believer. A non-believer isn't saved, they're trapped in the sin and flee from the Light that's Jesus.So if someone turns their back on the Light, how can they be expected to live by it if all they know is darkness?

That's what Jesus meant when 'He said I am the Light of the world,' I've often thought about this verse and its meanings. Jesus’ life and sacrifice brought life to the world that’s for sure. By dying for man’s sin, Jesus opened to gate to Heaven (the gate that He Himself claimed to be), and this most defiantly brought light to mankind.

 

Yet we must remember that Jesus was hardly in His thirties when He died for us, and before that there was only sin and darkness. Jesus is claiming to be the contrast. He is saying that before Him, we had only known darkness and therefore we were ignorant of the darkness that we were in. But when Jesus entered the world, we identified Him as the light, and now we had a contrast. Since Jesus was utterly sinless, now we can perceive just how far sin had penetrated our very being. We now have a definition of righteousness in Christ Himself.

What’s almost scary about this is that Jesus is taking away our naivety. He’s saying that before Him we knew no light- we were like children who didn't know better. Now that Jesus had entered the world, there would be no more excuses. I've often thought about this verse and its meanings. Jesus’ life and sacrifice brought life to the world that’s for sure. By dying for man’s sin, Jesus opened to gate to Heaven (the gate that He Himself claimed to be), and this most defiantly brought light to mankind.

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Before Jesus, knew no light- we were like children who didn’t know better, but now we've accepted Him as Lord, we're expected to conform to Him. While God wants all man to find Salvation, He can't, and doesn't expect man to be more than he is in his sinful state. If God expected this of sinners, we'd be able to save ourselves. It's only those that are saved that are expected to conform to Jesus. God doesn't care about atheists bettering themselves, only Jesus can do that. So He cares only for a man's faith. Think of Jesus as the Doctor that cures sin. You don't try to cure yourself of an illness before you go to the doctor, just to be presentable. You go to the doctor while you're still sick, as we go to Jesus while we're still sinners. Jesus doesn't expect man to clean Himself up before he is saved, and neither should we. As Dr Andrew J. Willis says 'sinners do what sinners do.'


Edited by AlanLamb0986, 20 January 2014 - 06:15 PM.


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What does the Bible say about judging atheists.

The Bible is strange about judgment...test the spirits vs Matt 7:1

Where does it say we have authority to test atheists,

because scripture says we can test false prophets.

Are atheists considered false prophets since they flat out deny the Word?

As far as I am aware, most Atheists don't make future predictions, so I guess they don't count as false prophets.

 

They are false teachers with a false doctrine.  They have some explanation for how we got here, and since God is left out, it is false.  I don't think we have to judge them.  We know there is only one way to be saved, and that is faith in Christ, so unless they somehow come around to believing, they are doomed. 






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