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i've been confused by this since i was about 7. (Im 20 now!)

 

There is ONE God.

From my understanding, God created Jesus. which is a human, but himself. Makes sense, God & Jesus are the same person. So why do people say that Jesus sits in Heaven at Gods side? and why to we sometimes pray to God and other times to Jesus? and what does "In Jesus name we pray" mean? 

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Jesus is the mediator between us and the Father, so we pray to Jesus.

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Seems you are asking about the Trinity. God is a title that belongs to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. All three are exactly the same in every way, as we find in 1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one."

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Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Hebrews 12:2

 

LORD

 

Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God. Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am. And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth. Luke 22:69-71

 

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i've been confused by this since i was about 7. (I'm 20 now!)

 

There is ONE God.

From my understanding, God created Jesus. which is a human, but himself. Makes sense, God & Jesus are the same person. So why do people say that Jesus sits in Heaven at Gods side? and why to we sometimes pray to God and other times to Jesus? and what does "In Jesus name we pray" mean? 

 

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Jesus

 

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Ephesians 3:9

 

Is LORD

 

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 1 Corinthians 12:3

 

Jesus Is

 

Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:27-28

 

Ascended

 

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. John 20:17

 

Jesus Is Returning

 

And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:9-11

 

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Thank You

 

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Galatians 4:6

 

LORD Jesus


Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 1 John 2:22-23

 

For Giving To Me

 

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. Joel 2:32

 

Your Father

 

And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. John 16:23-24

 

I Love You LORD

I Love You

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i've been confused by this since i was about 7. (Im 20 now!)

 

There is ONE God.

From my understanding, God created Jesus. which is a human, but himself. Makes sense, God & Jesus are the same person. So why do people say that Jesus sits in Heaven at Gods side? and why to we sometimes pray to God and other times to Jesus? and what does "In Jesus name we pray" mean? 

You are correct, there is one God, the Father. I used to wonder about this same thing and have concluded that it is the Father to whom we should pray. Jesus said to His disciple when you pray, pray saying, "Our Father who art in Heaven." The Scriptures do say that Jesus is the mediator between God and man. The Scriptures also has places where Jesus was worshiped, however, I'm not aware of any place where we're told to pray to Jesus and Jesus Himself said to pray to the Father.

 

On another point, Jesus was not created, He is the word of God who became flesh. While not the same person as the Father He is of the same substance and is deity.

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I'm not sure if I'm correct about this, but I see the 'father son' thing as indication of God's omnipotence.

If I have a conversation with someone, I can only really talk to once person at a time because my brain power has limits. If I do manage to listen to two people talking at once, it's only because I am actually quickly flicking between one and the other - I cannot physically listen to two different conversations at the same time. The more people that are talking at the same time, the more confusing it gets.

Even when we are carrying out more than one activity at the same time (such as driving a car), most of the actions are subconscious. Our conscious brain can only be occupied with one thing at a time.

God has no such constraints. He can simultaneously listen to a prayer from somebody in New Zealand, a prayer from somebody in France, keep an eye on the wicked, and protect Israel from physical disaster. I don't know if his occupations are infinite but they are simultaneously each and everywhere.

That is how it was possible for God to enter human flesh, live on Earth and experience life as a human, but nevertheless the Universe still carried on ticking over.

Even when God dies on the cross, he is not dead because he is still alive everywhere else.

That to me explains how the Son and the Father are different personalities - yet one and the same!

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From my understanding, God created Jesus. which is a human, but himself. Makes sense, God & Jesus are the same person.

 

I find this an odd understanding.

 

Jesus was never created. He was One with the Father from eternity beginning. He became incarnate in flesh, but He was never created.

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In St. John 14:13-14    Jesus said:  - And whatsover you shall ask in my name(in the name of Jesus), that will I(Jesus) do, that the "Father" may be "glorified" in the "Son."  If you shall ask anything in my name, (Jesus) I "will" do it.   

 

St. John 16:23-24   And in that day you shall ask me nothing.  Verily, verily, I say to you, "whatsoever" you shall ask the Father in "my name,"(Jesus) He(Our Father) will give it to you.  Until now you have asked nothing in my name: ask, and you shall receive, that  your "joy" may be full. 

 

So that "our" joy may be "full"  from our "living and reigning" God of all heaven and all earth in whom all authority is over all things.  Jesus is our reigning heavenly King, all things do bow before Him, now even.  The great "I AM" does reign, and in Him is "joy in the fullest"  =]]]

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John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, v. 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only BEGOTTEN the Father, full of grace and truth.NKJV

So let me define the Word who took on human flesh as Jesus, known as Emmanuel, which means God with us.

In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God His Father, and Jesus was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him. Notice in v. 14 that Jesus was begotten of the Father. He was not made or created.

Philippians 2:5-6 Let this mind be in your that was in Christ Jesus, who, BEING IN THE FORM OF GOD, did not consider it robbery to be EQUAL TO GOD. Read the rest of this passage.

Colossians 1:14-17 In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. He is the image of the invisible God, the first BORN over all creation. For by HIM all things are created that are in heaven and that are in earth--. All things were created THROUGH Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. NKJV

Jesus is presiding OVER creation and all things are held together by Him. The Father and Jesus both took part in creating the heavens and the earth and all things in it. We find in Genesis 1:2b that the Holy Spirit also took part in creation. So the plural pronoun WE is used of God in Genesis 1 when speaking of Himself because He is one God in three persons. So we pray to God the Father and we can also pray to Jesus His only Son Who was not created but was instead the Creator. THEY ARE ONE GOD. Jesus is now at the right hand of the Father interceding or praying for us. Romans 8:34 The Holy Spirit is also called God in Acts 5:3-4.

No man can fully comprehend God, or how He can be one God in 3 persons. But He IS. Jesus even called Himself the I AM who spoke to Moses out of the burning bush. John 8:58 In Revelation 1:8 He calls Himself that Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, meaning the eternal One. This is what I AM means.

Jesus taught us to pray the the Father. He came to reveal and glorify the Father, and the Holy Spirit came to glorify Jesus and recall all things to the rememberance to the apostles so that they could spread the Gospel. He is our Comforter, Teacher, Convictor, Sealer and Advocate. It is through Him that the Bible was written, and by His residing in us that we are born again.

I hope this has helped.

Blessings,

Willa

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"god" what does that word mean???

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The Trinity.God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.They are one.

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But the word "Trinity" is not in the bible itself. Trinity word is not mentioning in the whole Bible! What you have to say about that @ bopeep1909

 

It is quiet amazing that foundation of faith, foundation of Christianity the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible! Please Explain!

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The word cat is not in the bible either. The word bible isnt in the bible. 

 

The word Trinity may not be in the bible but the concept is there.

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ok the concept is there than who generates this word "Trinity" and with who's authority!

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Blessings True_Faith

     Welcome to Worthy.....Praise & Glory to God!

   It is by God's Authority as His Word comes by no interpretation of any prophet but by His own breath......although the word"trinity" is not used the concept is made clear as told to us in 1 John 5:7 as One Light has referred to

 

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one."

The Word of God was given to man by Divine inspiration,it is God Breathed,the Living Word,,,,,,,,,,His Timeless Truth!

                                                                                                             With love-in Christ-Kwik

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"god" what does that word mean???

have I not called you gods.

BigG is in control of all little g's.

 

I pray to God the Father, (I acknowledge God you are in control of ALL things)

In the name of Jesus, (I acknowledge to God the Father I have accepted Jesus is my Lord and Savior and I believe you Father God have raised him from the dead)

 

God bless

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ok the concept is there than who generates this word "Trinity" and with who's authority!

The word Trinity is three enities made one.

The word Trinity is a new word (by some man of God in history and Trinity has carried on through many generations) and was given to him by the inspiration of God.

The word Trinity bares witness with the Word; as it says that 3 in heaven bare witness of one another.

Tri (3) nity (enity); hence Trinity, also called the Holy Trinity

 

All scripture is given by the inspiration of God. It continues to be written today. A little of the old with a little of the new. Even thou it be a new word or parrable it will bare witness with the already established Word.

 

God bless

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My LORD

 

Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

 

And My God

 

And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:26-28

 

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ok the concept is there than who generates this word "Trinity" and with who's authority!

 

:emot-heartbeat:

 

The

 

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Matthew 3:16-17

 

Triune God

 

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 44:6

 

And My

 

For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. Isaiah 54:5

 

LORD

 

But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name. Isaiah 51:15

 

Is

 

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5

 

Greater

 

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Ephesians 3:9

 

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Believe

 

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

 

He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: John 1:10-12

 

And Be Blessed Beloved

 

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

 

Be Very Blessed

 

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24

 

Love, Joe

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ok the concept is there than who generates this word "Trinity" and with who's authority!

Trinity would just be a word expressing a three part or three entity god......       The Father is one Jesus is the second and the Holy Spirit is the third.....      They all have the same goals and are working as a single unit to accomplish their goals so we consider them as one.

 

If you look at them individually, we really have no access to the Father (because of the Sin of Adam) without the actions of Jesus to atone for our sins, and we would not have access to Jesus without the Holy Spirit coming to guide us.

 

It really does take all three to bring us to them......   it is one thing of three that we consider our god.

 

Trinity is just an easy way to express what they are.

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God gave us His son he didn't create him. Jesus was there from the beginning.

For God so loved the world he gave his one and only Son...John 3:16

He was with God from the beginning. Through him all things were made: Without him nothing was made. In him was life, and that life was the light of man... John 1:2-3

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i've been confused by this since i was about 7. (Im 20 now!)

 

There is ONE God.

From my understanding, God created Jesus. which is a human, but himself. Makes sense, God & Jesus are the same person. So why do people say that Jesus sits in Heaven at Gods side? and why to we sometimes pray to God and other times to Jesus? and what does "In Jesus name we pray" mean? 

The ONLY way you will truly understand this is to thoroughly study the scriptures! If you get a concordance and look up every verse in the New testament that mentions "Father", "Holy Spirit", and "Jesus" or "The Son", especially those that mention 2 or all of them together in the same verse, you will quickly begin to see the relationship between them, that each is God, and all are God together as one. This is not that amazing, since God is greater than man, that He can exist in three distinct beings, and yet be entirely united as one at the same time. He is GOD after all!

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Ok let's analyze this! Gospel of John Chapter 10:30 which does say I and my Father are one but if we goes to the context in which sense did he say that. Lets analyze this.

 

Gospel of John chapter 10:23

Jesus walk into the temple of Solomon Porch and the Jews came around him and asked him, how long does thou make us doubt, if thou be the Christ tell us plainly, Verse 25 says: I told you but believe me not the work that I do in my Father's name they bear witness of me. Verse 26 says: you believe not because you are not my sheep as I said unto you.

 

The Jews they were asking Jesus Christ that why don't you speak plainly, so he tells them that I'm the Christ I have told you clearly but you're not my sheep you don't believe in me. Verse 27 continues Jesus say: my sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me. Verse 28 says: I give them eternal life no man can pluck them out of my hand and they shall not perish. Verse 29 says: my Father who's give it to me, He's greater than all no man can pluck them out of my Father's hand and verse 30 says: I and my Father are one.

 

Any person who are little bit tense can make out I and my Father are one doesn't mean that One as One person. It means One in purpose verse 28 says: Jesus Christ say, no man can pluck them out of my hand. Verse 29 says, no man can pluck out of my Father's hand. Verse 30 says, I and my Father are one. In purpose both Jesus and Almighty God, they are one in purpose. If I say that my father is a doctor and I'm a doctor and if I say I and my father are one. What does it mean? It means one in purpose as medical profession my father is a doctor and I'm a doctor, it doesn't mean that I and my father are one. It means my father is a medical doctor and I'm a medical doctor.

 

If we say ONE in actual unity. If we go ahead in Gospel of John Chapter 17:21

 

Jesus Christ says: Ye all of them are one, my Father in me and I in thy we all are one. Does it means that God Almighty is in Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ in his all 12 disciples, so there will be 14 Gods! Jesus Christ, God Almighty and 12 disciples. The same ONE is use here and there.

 

No! all of them God Almighty, Jesus Christ and apostles are one in purpose, again if we go two verse ahead John 17:23 says: that I am in thy and you are in me says the disciples. Does it makes all of them God? No. It means one in purpose.

 

Lets go ahead little bit more John 10:31 says: and Jews picked up stones against to stone at Jesus verse 32 says: for which of the good works of my father do you stone me verse 33 says: we don't stone you for any good work but because you blasphemy: being a man call yourself God that's why we stone you. Verse 34 Jesus answer: is it not mention in your scriptures that ye are gods and if the person to whom the word of God came, if he says God the scriptures are not broken.

 

Checkup in the Bible in Psalms 82:6 just says that: ye are gods

 

So Jesus Christ gave the answer to whom the word of God came, if you called him God it is not blasphemy, it is meaning that they are one in purpose.

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Who do you say Jesus is truefaith? 

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We should not test God! Here we test "Human Being" weather you believe it or not because I know that God is always right!

 

Water can be in 3 states

 

- Solid

- Liquid

- Gas

 

Similarly God can be in 3 Forms (suppose)

 

- Father

- Son

- Holy Ghost

 

Scientifically I do agree water can be in 3 forms Solid, Liquid and Gas. But scientifically we also know that the component of the water still remain the same H2o. Two items of hydrogen and one item of oxygen. The components remain the same the forms keep on changing. There is no problem!

 

Now the concept of "Trinity"

Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Forms changes, for the sake of argument I agree but did the component changes?

 

God and Holy Ghost is made of spirit, Human Being are made of flesh and bones, they aren't the same human being requires to eat and spirit doesn't require to eat. God doesn't require eat to survive and this is testify by Jesus Christ himself in the Gospel of Luke 24:36-39

 

He says: Behold my hands and feet, handed me and see for a spirit has no flesh and bones, this proves that even scientifically not possible.

 

Concept of trinity doesn't exist in the Bible. The only verse which is closes to the concept of "Trinity" is the 1 Epistle of John 5:7 which says: For there are 3 that bear upon in heaven Father, The word and the Holy Ghost and these 3 are 1.

 

But if you read the RSV (Revise Standard Version) revised by 30 Scholars of the highest eminent they say this verse of the Bible is an interpolation. it was thrown out of the bible.

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Who do you say Jesus is truefaith? 

 

 

Hey true faith, who do you say Jesus is?

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