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Are we born with a moral code?

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Do you think God gives this to us when we are born?

 

http://www.cnn.com/2...html?hpt=hp_bn1

 

New Haven, Connecticut (CNN) -- It is one of life's biggest questions: Are we born knowing the difference between good and evil? Or are we taught our moral beliefs by parents and society?

Philosophers and psychologists have long believed that babies are born "blank slates," and that it is the role of parents and society to teach babies the difference between right and wrong; good and bad; mean and nice.

But a growing number of researchers now believe differently. They believe babies are in fact born with an innate sense of morality, and while parents and society can help develop a belief system in babies, they don't create one. A team of researchers at Yale University's Infant Cognition Center, known as The Baby Lab, showed us just how they came to that conclusion.

Dr. Karen Wynn runs the Baby Lab, and she and her team have been studying the minds and behaviors of babies for decades. About eight years ago they began running a series of studies on babies under 24 months to see how much these babies understand about good and bad behavior.

The first test is the simplest. Show a baby an example of good behavior, and then an example of bad behavior, then let the baby decide what she likes.



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Well, personally I think there is a difference in knowing the difference between right and wrong and being moral.

 

Most 2 year olds I have been exposed to are selfish little beasts until they are taught to be different.....   but they know the difference between right and wrong or they wouldn't lie to your face when they do wrong.

 

So I personally would say that we are born knowing good and evil, but have to learn morality.

 

Some people just never learn.



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I wonder if God has given everyone the moral code to know of God?That way no one can say that they were not saved because they did not know of a God.



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I wonder if God has given everyone the moral code to know of God?That way no one can say that they were not saved because they did not know of a God.

I believe the Bible says that



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Blessings Everyone

     LOL,I am laughing at what other one said,so true,,,,,I have a 2r old grand daughter,she spent the weekend with me & I just bought her a cute little shirt & after she was playing there was tear in it......I said,"What happened to your little shirt?".........She said,"Oh ,Mommy did it,she ripped it"...Lol    (Mommy was not there)

                                                                                         With love-in Christ,Kwik



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something we have to learn, morals come from ourselves.



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something we have to learn, morals come from ourselves.

:39: Do morals really come from ourselves?



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I think morals come from us. The golden rule has been dated back in egypt 300yrs before Christ. Its a good feeling to want to do good, even atheist would agree with that.

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I think morals come from us. The golden rule has been dated back in egypt 300yrs before Christ. Its a good feeling to want to do good, even atheist would agree with that.

 

By and large they do come from ourselves, but only because we were made in God's image. Because we are all fallen, without proper guidance we can lose these morals very quickly. That is why we need God's help. Small children are more or less 'moral' but they can quickly learn to lie, steal and cheat as they discover what it is like to live life in the imperfect world that we all live in.

That is why when Atheists smugly claim that they don't need God to teach them a moral code they are mistaken. 'Good' Atheists are only 'good' people because they still possess the inherent golden rule that they were born with, but they can still slide into other forms of immorality such as adultery, sexual perversions and so on.

We need God's guidance to keep us on the straight and narrow. Satan can never completely remove morals from people, but he can cause so much confusion that he twists these morals beyond recognition. In the case of truly evil people, love can be twisted into hate.



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God wrote his laws on the house of Israel hearts Jer 31:33

Gentils having the law written on their hearts
Rom 2:15

We are all given a conscience and that conscience should recognize Jesus Christ when we meet him.

Edited by SandyU, 17 February 2014 - 03:35 PM.


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It is a complex answer as I understand it.

Nurture versus nature further complicated by spiritual rebirth forming higher levels of good and evil men.

When two come together they reproduce after their own image. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Different things both spiritual and natural take place and further form the person.

Rinse and repeat.

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Philosophers and psychologists

 

 

And there's the blasphemy right there; never believe what these "warlocks of the mind" say...all psychologists are evil minded fools.



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Philosophers and psychologists

 

And there's the blasphemy right there; never believe what these "warlocks of the mind" say...all psychologists are evil minded fools.

 

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So Some Seem To Think God Was Somehow Terribly Mistaken

 

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12

 

When He Died For Psychologists And Such

 

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

 

And Why

 

Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; Hebrews 12:14-15

 

The Root Of Bitterness

 

Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 2 Corinthians 5:20

 

Beloved?

 

Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. Romans 12:14

 

Love, Joe



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Philosophers and psychologists

 

 

And there's the blasphemy right there; never believe what these "warlocks of the mind" say...all psychologists are evil minded fools.

 

I could say the same about people who lump whole groups of people into one set...



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I think morals come from us. The golden rule has been dated back in egypt 300yrs before Christ. Its a good feeling to want to do good, even atheist would agree with that.

 

By and large they do come from ourselves, but only because we were made in God's image. Because we are all fallen, without proper guidance we can lose these morals very quickly. That is why we need God's help. Small children are more or less 'moral' but they can quickly learn to lie, steal and cheat as they discover what it is like to live life in the imperfect world that we all live in.

That is why when Atheists smugly claim that they don't need God to teach them a moral code they are mistaken. 'Good' Atheists are only 'good' people because they still possess the inherent golden rule that they were born with, but they can still slide into other forms of immorality such as adultery, sexual perversions and so on.

We need God's guidance to keep us on the straight and narrow. Satan can never completely remove morals from people, but he can cause so much confusion that he twists these morals beyond recognition. In the case of truly evil people, love can be twisted into hate.

 

I agree.God gives us a conscience.If that conscience becomes numb we are in real trouble.



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I think little children have God's holy spirit in them....and as they become older, it wanes if they don't have Jesus in their lives. According to the bible, when Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the 'knowledge of good and evil' tree , all mankind there after became aware of Good and Evil. Now, I think when the bible refers to 'Knowledge of Good and Evil' in genesis, it's referring to a tree that reveals the knowledge about an evil realm (i.e. the world of the devil and his demons) and the good realm (i.e. the world of God, Jesus and the angels). I don't think that children know about the evil realm, but they surely know about the good realm because we can see an amazing innocence that comes from God in them...and also, children can tell evil people from good people...for instance when an evil person comes in to the room, they start crying or become uneasy...and when a good person comes into the room, they become friendly, playful and happy...I guess they are that close to God, that they can tell the difference between evil spirits and 'holy' spirits.



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I think morals can also come from our genes, some grow up to have more, others to have less. Our up bringing definitely plays a big part on the outcome of our morals. We are born with the mechanism to construct morals according to the way life and society shapes our minds. And when we are born again in Christ, the new self takes over with a whole new set of morals. In my opinion..    



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Philosophers and psychologists

 
And there's the blasphemy right there; never believe what these "warlocks of the mind" say...all psychologists are evil minded fools.
My associate pastor in a very conservative church taught Christian counseling. His day job was as a psychologist and admininstrator in the local mental health facility. He taught most of our classes on marriage and parenting, and the BIBLE was his source. He was a godly man who raised 3 sons that also serve the Lord. He and his wife have always been very dear to my heart for helping us to build a strong marriage that has lasted 50+ years and to also raise sons who love the Lord, as they are now doing as well.

My prayer for all of us is that we should be

Heb 12:15 looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled.
2 Peter 3:17-18 But grow in the GRACE and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen

Blessings,
Willa

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I'm 67 years old, and I've seen a lot of 2 year old kids in my life.......   without fail they were all completely self centered and rebelled at the term "NO".       I know they have a sense of morality for when caught in things they lie their little hinny's  off.

 

By the time they are about six years old they will either have been taught differently by good parents, or they will be a terror in their teenage years.......    beyond the teenage years they are taught to conform or they are nearly hopeless without the direct hand of God.






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