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Being a Christian and being a worshiper.

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Is there an actual difference?  A man of God once told me there was.  I still don't see it, and he didn't explain it at all.

 

I respect this man, but has he got it wrong (which humans are prone to do)?



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Did he mean that some people worship the Lord and keep it to themselves and others are out there spreading the Word?

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Or rather applying His Word in their own lives. Maybe?

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Being a Christian means your words are going to offend people, GODs words are going to offend people and you shouldn't care one inch that you offend. If they listen and become saved Christians and follow Christ then you've done GODs will. If they curse you and hate you then you've done GODs will. And if you point out to a psudo Christian where they're wrong and they curse you...to bad for them for they'll die and go to hell for their foolishness in following lies.

 

Just keep in mind....the world hates Christ and it hates you and the apostate religions of man hate you.



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I really am not sure what he meant.  I see being a christian as being a follower of Christ, therefore submitting and devoting one's life to Him, which is worship.  Worship is not a song in itself, or the simple lifting of hands.  That is used in expression of worship, surely, but for me, worship is lived, not just done.  Maybe he was talking in terms of just expressing worship. 

 

Hmm.



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I see being a christian as being a follower of Christ, therefore submitting and devoting one's life to Him, which is worship.

 

As Christians we are commanded to follow Christ (GOD), set ourselves apart from this world, make deciples of men and defend the faith. Just sitting in worship alone is not the only thing we are called out for.



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Without an explanation, it is impossible to know exactly what he was thinking, but, if he was a man of God, it is very likely that a statement like that was meant to make you think.  

 

Are there people who say they are Christian, but are not worshippers? Sure. There are actually more people who say they are Christians then are actually worshipers.

 

Can a Christian fail to worship? Well, kind of. A Christian who is caught up in the cares of the world. Some Christians look at the world and become concerned about what they see going on around them or to them, and fail to recognize that God is not only in control but works out everything for His glory and our good.  

 

If I were to guess, which I obviously am doing, that line would lead me to wonder, when things go good, or bad, am I worshipping, or am I focused on what I can do to releave the bad, or patting myself on the back for the good, rather then faith, and glorying God.

I think it is a good question, and one worth asking in any given circumstance. Am I a Christian or am I a worshipper. One is outward, who I claim to be, or how I think I should act, and the other comes from inside, from the heart and by faith and should never cease.    



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I see being a christian as being a follower of Christ, therefore submitting and devoting one's life to Him, which is worship.

 

As Christians we are commanded to follow Christ (GOD), set ourselves apart from this world, make deciples of men and defend the faith. Just sitting in worship alone is not the only thing we are called out for.

 

 

What I'm saying is that our following Him is in fact worship.  Worship isn't just sitting down.  Read the rest of my post you just quoted please.



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Without an explanation, it is impossible to know exactly what he was thinking, but, if he was a man of God, it is very likely that a statement like that was meant to make you think.  

 

Are there people who say they are Christian, but are not worshippers? Sure. There are actually more people who say they are Christians then are actually worshipers.

 

Can a Christian fail to worship? Well, kind of. A Christian who is caught up in the cares of the world. Some Christians look at the world and become concerned about what they see going on around them or to them, and fail to recognize that God is not only in control but works out everything for His glory and our good.  

 

If I were to guess, which I obviously am doing, that line would lead me to wonder, when things go good, or bad, am I worshipping, or am I focused on what I can do to releave the bad, or patting myself on the back for the good, rather then faith, and glorying God.

I think it is a good question, and one worth asking in any given circumstance. Am I a Christian or am I a worshipper. One is outward, who I claim to be, or how I think I should act, and the other comes from inside, from the heart and by faith and should never cease.    

 

I think to be true followers of Christ one should be both and both are inextricable if they are genuine.



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Is there an actual difference?  A man of God once told me there was.  I still don't see it, and he didn't explain it at all.

 

I respect this man, but has he got it wrong (which humans are prone to do)?

Hey Zion!

I am fairly certain that what the Godly man meant was that worship is a focus, attitude, and lifestyle based upon the idea that God is WORTHY. To worship something is to place great value upon it, so much so that it determines your thoughts, words, and deeds. Those who worship God must worship Him in Spirit and in truth. I believe that scripture is the physical representation of absolute truth on earth. Spirit is, of course, the Holy Spirit, who dwells inside the true believer. Holy Spirit works in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure. Holy Spirit is the teacher and interpreter of the scripture to us. Holy Spirit sanctifies and purifies our thoughts, will, and emotions. He does this as we offer ourselves to God as a living sacrifice. Considering our Lord to be so wonderful and so great in our heart that we surrender all to him as an ongoing dedication is our reasonable service and act of worship to Him. Music is not the worship, but merely a tool, a gift God put in man which helps us express ourselves to Him and to each other the worship that comes from the inner man in dedication. 

All Christians worship God, as this is basically how you get saved, by offering your life to His service in faith and trust in who He is and what He has done for us. Not all Christians do well in continuing in the lifestyle of worship, which leads to maturity and a fruitful life in the Kingdom, which also results in greater heavenly reward, as well as a more blessed life here on earth (often with persecutions!).

Hope this helps and informs,

your brother Andy


Edited by ajchurney, 19 February 2014 - 08:27 PM.


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I totally agree, but if you stop worshiping God how can you still be a Christian? 



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I totally agree, but if you stop worshiping God how can you still be a Christian? 

If that happens it could either be a phase, as it happened to many of us, or could also mean that the person never really was saved in the first place but still use the title as being a Christian. Some don't realize that being a true Christian means to worship and especially apply the word of God in our lives. And then you have Sunday Christians who are worldly for the rest of the week, maybe that's who that man was pertaining to.



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I totally agree, but if you stop worshiping God how can you still be a Christian? 

Well, if you stop worshipping altogether, then NO, you are not a Christian. This would probably be like the ground in Jesus' parable which received the word with gladness, but then fell away when trials, trouble, and persecution came. A lull in the outward expression of worship would indicate a carnal or fleshly time for a true Christian, but the scripture is clear that Hod chastises His own, and that the Spirit yearns inside us jealously. A true Christian always gets over the hump, and overcomes eventually, unless their errors lead to physical death. In that case, there is little reward in heaven, yet they themselves will be saved. The important thing to remember is that walking in the Spirit consistently and submitting to God's maturing grace will yield the most blessed, productive, and steady Christian life. A purposefully worshipping believer is the one who will do these things, because they are being obedient to the greatest command, "Love the Lord your God with ALL your heart, soul, mind, and strength."

More Blessings, Andy

PS- I appreciate your posts on Lordship Salvation also 



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Is there an actual difference? 

 

A man of God once told me there was. 

 

I still don't see it, and he didn't explain it at all.

 

I respect this man, but has he got it wrong (which humans are prone to do)?

 

:thumbsup:

 

He

 

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:34

 

 

Maybe

 

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. 1 John 2:15-17

 

Right

 

And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. Luke 10:27

 

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Man's Seed

 

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:2-4

 

Or God's Kids Indeed

 

Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1 Peter 1:21-23

 

Only The LORD Knows Who Will Be Truly Freed

 

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. John 8:36






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