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  1. 1. Should Christian women cover their heads ?

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1 Corinthians 11:5

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But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

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In today's culture,we no longer view a woman's wearing of a head covering as a sign of submission.It is only a personal choice.It has nothing to do with spirituality.God is way more concerned with the attitude of submission.It is more important to God that women wear modest clothing 1 Timothy 2:9-10

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The scripture says her long hair is a covering, so yes, she should have long hair.  It is a sign of submission, whether anyone acknowledges that today or not.  God doesn't change.  He is the same yesterday, today and forever. 

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I had to vote other, for you don't say in what instances you are speaking of.....

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Yes a woman should have hair on their head for it is her glory (comely-beauty not her own but what God naturally gave her) as scripture has so stated.  It is up to each individual woman to determine the length of her own hair.  The word long means to flop.  And I know logically that short or shaven hair does not flop.  This is my personal view about it.

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The scripture says her long hair is a covering, so yes, she should have long hair.  It is a sign of submission, whether anyone acknowledges that today or not.  God doesn't change.  He is the same yesterday, today and forever. 

What about women with short hair is that their covering ?

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I had to vote other, for you don't say in what instances you are speaking of.....

1 Corinthians 11:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

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Yes a woman should have hair on their head for it is her glory (comely-beauty not her own but what God naturally gave her) as scripture has so stated.  It is up to each individual woman to determine the length of her own hair.  The word long means to flop.  And I know logically that short or shaven hair does not flop.  This is my personal view about it.

Is it all right for a woman to wear long hair wigs ?

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The scripture says her long hair is a covering, so yes, she should have long hair.  It is a sign of submission, whether anyone acknowledges that today or not.  God doesn't change.  He is the same yesterday, today and forever. 

What about women with short hair is that their covering ?

 

If you read the passage carefully, the answer is no.  Her long hair is a sign of submission, and it is a glory to her.  The same passage says that if a man has long hair, it is a shame for him.  It would show he is in rebellion against his head. 

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Yes a woman should have hair on their head for it is her glory (comely-beauty not her own but what God naturally gave her) as scripture has so stated.  It is up to each individual woman to determine the length of her own hair.  The word long means to flop.  And I know logically that short or shaven hair does not flop.  This is my personal view about it.

Is it all right for a woman to wear long hair wigs ?

 

 

If a woman so desires to wear a long haired wig that up to them.  Me personally I don't think their is any evil being done by doing so. 

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I had to vote other, for you don't say in what instances you are speaking of.....

1 Corinthians 11:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

 

i was just looking at the question...  I didn't see your post until later.

 

I don't think I understand what is behind your question since right up front, the scripture you quote is pretty clear about what Paul was saying.....   but we are only speaking of praying and prophesying in public I am assuming.

 

 

1 Cor 11:16

16 But if one is inclined to be contentious, we have no other practice, nor have the churches of God.

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but I wouldn't make a big issue out of it.

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The scripture says her long hair is a covering, so yes, she should have long hair.  It is a sign of submission, whether anyone acknowledges that today or not.  God doesn't change.  He is the same yesterday, today and forever. 

No,that is legalism.That is from the OT.If that were the case I would be going straight to hell.And I am not.I can reassure you of that.

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I agree with bopeep. It was a cultural thing. It was offensive to see women in the church without long hair (her head covering). Long hair showed submission to God and her husband.

 

I don't think it applies to the 21st century Western culture. The custom and meaning has long been lost. St. Paul was saying that if a women wears short hair she might as well shave it all off. Prostitutes were known to have short or shaven heads. Dishonoring her head would mean she is dishonoring her husband. I don't see how this is applicable in Western society.

 

Of course we have little to go on when explaining why St. Paul was inspired to pen these words. If you are a woman who feels that God wants you to wear long hair, you should obey your conscience.

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The scripture says her long hair is a covering, so yes, she should have long hair.  It is a sign of submission, whether anyone acknowledges that today or not.  God doesn't change.  He is the same yesterday, today and forever. 

No,that is legalism.That is from the OT.If that were the case I would be going straight to hell.And I am not.I can reassure you of that.

 

1 Corinthians is in the New Testament.  This was never mentioned in the Old Testament.  By now, I would imagine you know that I couldn't care less about the legalism label being thrown around.  What the Bible actually says, in the New Testament is that it is a shame for a man to have long hair and a woman is supposed to have long hair for a covering.  If you don't like it, this is never actually called a sin, just a shame.  God is the same yesterday, today and forever, so I don't accept that only a cultural thing nonsense. 

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I agree with bopeep. It was a cultural thing. It was offensive to see women in the church without long hair (her head covering). Long hair showed submission to God and her husband.

 

I don't think it applies to the 21st century Western culture. The custom and meaning has long been lost. St. Paul was saying that if a women wears short hair she might as well shave it all off. Prostitutes were known to have short or shaven heads. Dishonoring her head would mean she is dishonoring her husband. I don't see how this is applicable in Western society.

 

Of course we have little to go on when explaining why St. Paul was inspired to pen these words. If you are a woman who feels that God wants you to wear long hair, you should obey your conscience.

When the culture is at odds with scripture, I go with scripture.  There are a lot of things that are wrong in western society.  Long hair on a woman still shows submission to God and her husband, and when a man has short hair, it shows he is in submission to his spiritual head, Jesus Christ. 

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Yes, but I voted other because these is a thing in the category "best or most ideal." Yet when practicality and the circumstances we live in this would be under the heading of must needs be for now.

 

Ideally women should not teach or usurp authority over men. But when men are too lazy or cowardice to step up then it is far better that a woman step up to these ministries than they are not performed.

 

The prophetess Deborah was a prime example.

 

The women at the tomb of Jesus...

 

The head covering was for two major reasons:

 

1. to provide for a woman and to protect her her head covering was in respect to the house she was a part of (husband, brother, father, uncle)

2. to cover "her glory" (long hair) the same as she would have covered her body to keep from drawing attention to herself / and the lust of men. See 1 Peter 3:1-7...

 

Again there are the ideal commands of scripture and the practical. Esther was subject to the house of Mordecai her cousin or uncle yet she was in what essentially was a beauty contest to replace a defrocked Queen who refused to expose herself to the King's serfs wearing only her crown. I doubt Esther was covered from head to toe...

 

Women were not permitted to work (looked down upon if they did) because most men had to gird up their robes exposing the nakedness of their legs. See Isaiah 47:1-3 which defines this as shameful nakedness. But women did (Esther was one of them).

 

Since every believer is a priest of God and most believers do not step up to that calling Christian evangelization of the world (Matthew 28:19-20) is woefully understaffed and woefully behind in our outreach...

 

I believe now is not the time to knit pick about such things.

 

If a woman believes she dishonors God or ought to pray with her head covered, then by all means cover the head.

 

Conversely, what if men pray with their hat on?

 

Personally I take my hat off when I pray... even if it is not convenient. But that's my personal conviction towards the biblical text.

 

No one convinced me of my personal actions in the matter. I simply did so myself.

 

 

 

 

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The scripture says her long hair is a covering, so yes, she should have long hair.  It is a sign of submission, whether anyone acknowledges that today or not.  God doesn't change.  He is the same yesterday, today and forever. 

What about women with short hair is that their covering ?

 

If you read the passage carefully, the answer is no.  Her long hair is a sign of submission, and it is a glory to her.  The same passage says that if a man has long hair, it is a shame for him.  It would show he is in rebellion against his head. 

 

There  are women who have only short hair eg some women in  Africa while their are some women with long hair eg India  :confused:

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Yes a woman should have hair on their head for it is her glory (comely-beauty not her own but what God naturally gave her) as scripture has so stated.  It is up to each individual woman to determine the length of her own hair.  The word long means to flop.  And I know logically that short or shaven hair does not flop.  This is my personal view about it.

Is it all right for a woman to wear long hair wigs ?

 

 

If a woman so desires to wear a long haired wig that up to them.  Me personally I don't think their is any evil being done by doing so. 

 

Their are women who lose their hair during chemotherapy are the uncovered because they are bald head ?

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I agree with bopeep. It was a cultural thing. It was offensive to see women in the church without long hair (her head covering). Long hair showed submission to God and her husband.

 

I don't think it applies to the 21st century Western culture. The custom and meaning has long been lost. St. Paul was saying that if a women wears short hair she might as well shave it all off. Prostitutes were known to have short or shaven heads. Dishonoring her head would mean she is dishonoring her husband. I don't see how this is applicable in Western society.

 

Of course we have little to go on when explaining why St. Paul was inspired to pen these words. If you are a woman who feels that God wants you to wear long hair, you should obey your conscience.

When the culture is at odds with scripture, I go with scripture.  There are a lot of things that are wrong in western society.  Long hair on a woman still shows submission to God and her husband, and when a man has short hair, it shows he is in submission to his spiritual head, Jesus Christ. 

 

What about women with short hair are they not covered ?

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The scripture says her long hair is a covering, so yes, she should have long hair.  It is a sign of submission, whether anyone acknowledges that today or not.  God doesn't change.  He is the same yesterday, today and forever. 

What about women with short hair is that their covering ?

 

If you read the passage carefully, the answer is no.  Her long hair is a sign of submission, and it is a glory to her.  The same passage says that if a man has long hair, it is a shame for him.  It would show he is in rebellion against his head. 

 

There  are women who have only short hair eg some women in  Africa while their are some women with long hair eg India  :confused:

 

What has that got to do with anything?  The Bible says what it says.  There are men with long hair too, many native Americans.  That doesn't make the Word null and void.  This isn't mentioned as a sin issue, but it is something Christians should observe. 

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Yes a woman should have hair on their head for it is her glory (comely-beauty not her own but what God naturally gave her) as scripture has so stated.  It is up to each individual woman to determine the length of her own hair.  The word long means to flop.  And I know logically that short or shaven hair does not flop.  This is my personal view about it.

Is it all right for a woman to wear long hair wigs ?

 

 

If a woman so desires to wear a long haired wig that up to them.  Me personally I don't think their is any evil being done by doing so. 

 

Their are women who lose their hair during chemotherapy are the uncovered because they are bald head ?

 

There is such a thing as a wig or a veil. 

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I agree with bopeep. It was a cultural thing. It was offensive to see women in the church without long hair (her head covering). Long hair showed submission to God and her husband.

 

I don't think it applies to the 21st century Western culture. The custom and meaning has long been lost. St. Paul was saying that if a women wears short hair she might as well shave it all off. Prostitutes were known to have short or shaven heads. Dishonoring her head would mean she is dishonoring her husband. I don't see how this is applicable in Western society.

 

Of course we have little to go on when explaining why St. Paul was inspired to pen these words. If you are a woman who feels that God wants you to wear long hair, you should obey your conscience.

When the culture is at odds with scripture, I go with scripture.  There are a lot of things that are wrong in western society.  Long hair on a woman still shows submission to God and her husband, and when a man has short hair, it shows he is in submission to his spiritual head, Jesus Christ. 

 

What about women with short hair are they not covered ?

 

I believe I already told you that Biblically they are not considered to have their head covered, just as a man can have some hair and be considered Biblically to be uncovered.  It just has to be short.  BTW, I wouldn't feel right wearing a hat when I pray.  I agree with John DB on that, and I already came to the same conclusions a long time ago. 

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Yes a woman should have hair on their head for it is her glory (comely-beauty not her own but what God naturally gave her) as scripture has so stated.  It is up to each individual woman to determine the length of her own hair.  The word long means to flop.  And I know logically that short or shaven hair does not flop.  This is my personal view about it.

Is it all right for a woman to wear long hair wigs ?

 

 

If a woman so desires to wear a long haired wig that up to them.  Me personally I don't think their is any evil being done by doing so. 

 

Their are women who lose their hair during chemotherapy are the uncovered because they are bald head ?

 

 

 

They are uncovered only in the sense that their hair has fallen out because of the chemotherapy.  It simply is no fault of their own.  Older women even often lose their hair but it is no fault of their own.  The scripture that was presented in the OP dealing with hair has nothing to do with a person(s) salvation or legalism.  But God has given women a natural power (beauty) within her hair and a womans hair is her glory (comely/power).   I want to add that a womans natural covering given her by God does not substitute or replace the blood covering that comes only through the shed blood of Christ for the remission of sin.  Because a person can cover their entire head with a bucket for that matter and still not be covered with the blood of Christ.    These types of discussions usually turn into stupidity to where the meaning and knowledge within the text of scripture can't be seen because of all the analogies that starts being made.    

 

I really do not know where you are coming from or what you want to specifically know from your OP.  Can you clarify more in detail.         

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Blessings Everyone....

      I have to say that I stand in agreement with Brother Butero......just because the entire world has changed & become a modernized & progressive "anything goes" society we do know that God never changes nor does His Word........I think it is being reverent & submissive to the Lord to dorn the "glory" he has given us women

      You know it is very funny that it was mentioned "what about women losing their hair to chemo".......I had many many months of chemo & when the doctors explained to me to be prepared to lose my hair because i was to undergo very aggressive chemo,I cried like a baby.........I tried to prepare myself by cutting about 12 inches off the length of my hair as it is very,very long.......I prayed & finally resolved myself to not be so prideful & that if it was Gods Will,then so be it............

       Months later,as I watched everyone in my chemo group go completely bald I did not even lose one single hair on my head.............Glory to God,I don't know why the Lord let me keep my crown of glory but perhaps just to say"I Am the Lord God &  I  make every decision.............I am just grateful & give thanks to the Lord!

                                                                                                          With love-in Christ,Kwik

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1 Corinthians 11:5

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But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

 

 

 

I believe so, because this is a teaching from the beginning.  If people maintaned the teachings of the beginning, the young wouldn't be so rebellious.  The new converts wouldn't fancy themselves overnight scholars.  The man would know his place, and abide in it.  The woman would know her place, and abide in hers.

 

A lot of problems with have in the Church, and in our homes, wouldn't exist ... if we maintained that which was taught from the BEGINNING.

 

When I was growing up, I remember those women wearing hats in church, etc.

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