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Not that biblical appearing entertainment even should be swallowed without biting, as God tells us to test everything, but please read the following. Once again we get the confirmation about the importance of checking the backgrounds.

http://thelasthiker.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/the-son-of-god-movie-is-not-what-we-think-do-you-know-the-voice-of-your-master/

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Yes Hollywood & the media are quite capable of fouling up a Bible story. Wasn't it NBC that had a rival ark attacking Noah's ark -- ROFL.

 

The best Chr movie I know of is the Gospel of John, word for word from a modern translation, only having a stupid introductory statement to placate Jewish persons & probably persons whose money was required to get the show into theaters.  Even going word for word, the visual failed at one point, where John indicates that after the Lord Jesus uttered the I AM (ego eimi) the arresters fell back & down.  It would have been great drama to have the actors do that, but they ignored what the lines called for.  The deity of Christ stands way out in the movie.

 

One of the worst was Solomon & Sheba, the old Yul Brenner movie.

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Someone showed that blog page to me before. I dont think the article has much merit to it. The person hasnt seen the new film and he is basing this all on things he read about the principle people involved in the film.

 

I know there were changes made from the piece that was shown in the tv series, so perhaps it is good. And perhaps it isnt. From those who know the film, who have seen it or the script etc, I havent yet heard bad about it. 

 

This review from Christianity Today is a good one. The first page is a bit why he looked at it the way he did, then it gets into the nuts and bolts of the film.

 

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2014/february-web-only/son-of-god.html

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This comes from a Christian movie review site. After the main review are submissions from every-day viewers submitting their thoughts, so you can get varied perspectives on the film.

 

http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/2014/sonofgod2014.html

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This is an eye-opener.

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Thanks for the review Neb. Changing scripture on things He said is disturbing.

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Blessings Everyone...

    As i did read the link provided by Diatheosis I had to wonder if perhaps it is true for myself what was written about Christians being so familiar with the Bible that they just automatically "fill in the gaps" in their own minds,not realizing what is actually being omitted.As we know & love Jesus we don't have a picture painted of Him by the movie because we know Him.............I would have to watch the Bible Series again from a different perspective because I don't remember anything so terrible as the writer claimed..........perhaps I was one of those Christians????

    As for the "Son of God",I am still looking forward to seeing it & I will judge for myself........however,I think i will pay extra attention after reading what I just mentioned........I will try to view it as I imagine a non-believer would........

    This thread was eye-opening very informative for me............Praise & Glory to God!

                                                                                                 With love-in Christ,Kwik

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Come on guys...you know that the book is always better than the movie :-)

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Someone always has something to complain about. While it was not the best movie about Christ I have seen,(some parts seem kind of rushesd) it wasn't that bad. I found the crucifiction seens to be very moving. I liked how they showed Jesus showing love and forgiveness to the sinner instead of condemnation; and how high and mighty "religious leaders" are all hypocrite. It was the kind of movie that I think would make someone want to find out more about who this Jesus person really is.

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idk... i think the person was over reacting. i know from experience that christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn about a lot of things. trust me even if this movie was scriptural word for word ppl would find a way to say it evil or wrong or the creators are or the actors or just because holly wood made it.

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idk... i think the person was over reacting. i know from experience that christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn about a lot of things. trust me even if this movie was scriptural word for word ppl would find a way to say it evil or wrong or the creators are or the actors or just because holly wood made it.

Judge not, lest ye be judged

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idk... i think the person was over reacting. i know from experience that christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn about a lot of things. trust me even if this movie was scriptural word for word ppl would find a way to say it evil or wrong or the creators are or the actors or just because holly wood made it.

Judge not, lest ye be judged

 

i am not judging anyone i am merely stating a fact.

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idk... i think the person was over reacting. i know from experience that christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn about a lot of things. trust me even if this movie was scriptural word for word ppl would find a way to say it evil or wrong or the creators are or the actors or just because holly wood made it.

Judge not, lest ye be judged

 

i am not judging anyone i am merely stating a fact.

 

"christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn"

 

Zeal is a matter of the heart.  How can you know what is in a heart?

always?  How can you prove "always" from your non-always experience?

 

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

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idk... i think the person was over reacting. i know from experience that christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn about a lot of things. trust me even if this movie was scriptural word for word ppl would find a way to say it evil or wrong or the creators are or the actors or just because holly wood made it.

Judge not, lest ye be judged

 

i am not judging anyone i am merely stating a fact.

 

"christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn"

 

Zeal is a matter of the heart.  How can you know what is in a heart?

always?  How can you prove "always" from your non-always experience?

 

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

 

we cannot always know what is in the heart but mathew 15:18  is a good way to start. but the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart. i get the sense you dont like me too much because of the way you took my words and made whatever that was. it could be because i am not to bright but it didnt make to much sense to me. also please show me how i was judging? because i henstly didnt mean to if i did its just things i have seen many times

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idk... i think the person was over reacting. i know from experience that christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn about a lot of things. trust me even if this movie was scriptural word for word ppl would find a way to say it evil or wrong or the creators are or the actors or just because holly wood made it.

Judge not, lest ye be judged

 

i am not judging anyone i am merely stating a fact.

 

"christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn"

 

Zeal is a matter of the heart.  How can you know what is in a heart?

always?  How can you prove "always" from your non-always experience?

 

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

 

we cannot always know what is in the heart but mathew 15:18  is a good way to start. but the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart. i get the sense you dont like me too much because of the way you took my words and made whatever that was. it could be because i am not to bright but it didnt make to much sense to me. also please show me how i was judging? because i henstly didnt mean to if i did its just things i have seen many times

 

fire-heart, please don't think I don't like you.  I have no hostile feelings for you.  Your post seemed quite critical of the brrrethrren, & I did not like the post.  I put up the scripture.  You may consider if it fits your post or not.   I wish you the best.  And join the club; I am sure that there are those who dislike some of my posts.

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idk... i think the person was over reacting. i know from experience that christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn about a lot of things. trust me even if this movie was scriptural word for word ppl would find a way to say it evil or wrong or the creators are or the actors or just because holly wood made it.

Judge not, lest ye be judged

 

i am not judging anyone i am merely stating a fact.

 

"christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn"

 

Zeal is a matter of the heart.  How can you know what is in a heart?

always?  How can you prove "always" from your non-always experience?

 

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

 

we cannot always know what is in the heart but mathew 15:18  is a good way to start. but the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart. i get the sense you dont like me too much because of the way you took my words and made whatever that was. it could be because i am not to bright but it didnt make to much sense to me. also please show me how i was judging? because i henstly didnt mean to if i did its just things i have seen many times

 

fire-heart, please don't think I don't like you.  I have no hostile feelings for you.  Your post seemed quite critical of the brrrethrren, & I did not like the post.  I put up the scripture.  You may consider if it fits your post or not.   I wish you the best.  And join the club; I am sure that there are those who dislike some of my posts.

 

if i had said all christians did that i would understand but i was only saying christians do that because sadly i have encountered far to many of them. i asked to be shown shown where i was being judgemental because i was afraid maybe i was being judgemental and didnt know it. see the heart is a tricky thing you can be saying something thinking it was good but in your heart it wasnt and our human thinking of always thinking we are right shrouds view of the reason we said something. i seek a loving humble heart not a rash and judgemental one so if i was judgemental i take full responsibilty and apolagize

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idk... i think the person was over reacting. i know from experience that christians will out of their zeal always find something to condemn about a lot of things. trust me even if this movie was scriptural word for word ppl would find a way to say it evil or wrong or the creators are or the actors or just because holly wood made it.

 

Actually, this isn't a "Christian" problem; it is a human problem. People of all beliefs are zealous over that which is important to them, get obsessed over little things, etc. For example, people who are into science tend to judge movies based on their scientific inaccuracies.

 

As for movies based on the Gospels, I know of three movies that have not been received negatively by the Christian community:

 

The Jesus Film

The Visual Bible: Matthew (later renamed The Gospel According to Matthew)

The  Gospel of John

 

 

Now what I did find interesting about the Christian Spotlight reviews is that people tagged the movie as positive, wrote about the negatives in detail, but likewise explain what made it positive to them in such detail. :confused:

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Yes Hollywood & the media are quite capable of fouling up a Bible story. Wasn't it NBC that had a rival ark attacking Noah's ark -- ROFL.

 

The best Chr movie I know of is the Gospel of John, word for word from a modern translation, only having a stupid introductory statement to placate Jewish persons & probably persons whose money was required to get the show into theaters.  Even going word for word, the visual failed at one point, where John indicates that after the Lord Jesus uttered the I AM (ego eimi) the arresters fell back & down.  It would have been great drama to have the actors do that, but they ignored what the lines called for.  The deity of Christ stands way out in the movie.

 

One of the worst was Solomon & Sheba, the old Yul Brenner movie.

 

For the Gospel of John movie, what was the introductory statement to 'placate Jewish persons'?

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The script writer giving us his worldy view on this movie, as to giving us another step away from what the bibledays, bringing more confusion.

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Yes Hollywood & the media are quite capable of fouling up a Bible story. Wasn't it NBC that had a rival ark attacking Noah's ark -- ROFL.

 

The best Chr movie I know of is the Gospel of John, word for word from a modern translation, only having a stupid introductory statement to placate Jewish persons & probably persons whose money was required to get the show into theaters.  Even going word for word, the visual failed at one point, where John indicates that after the Lord Jesus uttered the I AM (ego eimi) the arresters fell back & down.  It would have been great drama to have the actors do that, but they ignored what the lines called for.  The deity of Christ stands way out in the movie.

 

One of the worst was Solomon & Sheba, the old Yul Brenner movie.

 

For the Gospel of John movie, what was the introductory statement to 'placate Jewish persons'?

 

As is well-known, the Gospel of John says negative things about hoi Ioudaioi ("the Jews").  That makes it politically incorrect & objectionable to Jewish financiers.  Yet while there are negations about "the Jews," it is obvious that the Lord Jesus & all his disciples in John are Jews!

 

So there is this interpretive problem.  What does hoi (the) Ioudaioi (Jews) mean?  Does it mean "Judeans" in the negative contexts?  The text selected for the movie uses a modern translation which translates hoi Ioudaioi something like, "the Jewish authorities."  Thus Jewish readers are not so likely to find that reading anti-Semitic.

 

If you google on it, you should be able to find the actual words added to the movie right before the narrative starts.  It says something like,

"At the time that the Gospel of John was written, there was conflict between Christians and Jews; this story reflects that conflict."

 

But after that, the script is verbatim Gospel of John in the modern translation.

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Yes Hollywood & the media are quite capable of fouling up a Bible story. Wasn't it NBC that had a rival ark attacking Noah's ark -- ROFL.

 

The best Chr movie I know of is the Gospel of John, word for word from a modern translation, only having a stupid introductory statement to placate Jewish persons & probably persons whose money was required to get the show into theaters.  Even going word for word, the visual failed at one point, where John indicates that after the Lord Jesus uttered the I AM (ego eimi) the arresters fell back & down.  It would have been great drama to have the actors do that, but they ignored what the lines called for.  The deity of Christ stands way out in the movie.

 

One of the worst was Solomon & Sheba, the old Yul Brenner movie.

 

For the Gospel of John movie, what was the introductory statement to 'placate Jewish persons'?

 

As is well-known, the Gospel of John says negative things about hoi Ioudaioi ("the Jews").  That makes it politically incorrect & objectionable to Jewish financiers.  Yet while there are negations about "the Jews," it is obvious that the Lord Jesus & all his disciples in John are Jews!

 

So there is this interpretive problem.  What does hoi (the) Ioudaioi (Jews) mean?  Does it mean "Judeans" in the negative contexts?  The text selected for the movie uses a modern translation which translates hoi Ioudaioi something like, "the Jewish authorities."  Thus Jewish readers are not so likely to find that reading anti-Semitic.

 

If you google on it, you should be able to find the actual words added to the movie right before the narrative starts.  It says something like,

"At the time that the Gospel of John was written, there was conflict between Christians and Jews; this story reflects that conflict."

 

But after that, the script is verbatim Gospel of John in the modern translation.

 

Ok, thanks.

 

I have doubts that any Jewish people who do not believe in Jesus would finance this movie so I do not believe they are trying to be sensitive to Jewish financiers.

 

The gospel went first to the Jewish people, and all of the apostles were Jewish. At the time this actually occurred it was a Jewish fight between Jewish people, discussing differences in interpretation of scripture, which at times got heated. Since that time, non-Jews have used these verses against the Jewish people in a prejudicial manner. For example, there used to be groups which put on 'Passion plays' to stir people up against Jews 'for being Christ killers'. So when Jewish people hear about a passion play, from past experience, it is thought to be about stirring up anti-semitism and possibly being attacked.  

 

Since so much has been done by people in Jesus name, against the Jewish people, it is reasonable for real Christians to have explanations so as not to be confused for those who have misused the name of Jesus to abuse.

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"The gospel went first to the Jewish people, and all of the apostles were Jewish. At the time this actually occurred it was a Jewish fight between Jewish people, discussing differences in interpretation of scripture, "

 

How do you know that?  We not wrestle vs flesh & blood but vs principalities & powers.  Would it  not be better to say that the fight was between Believers in Jesus (who were predominantly Jewish at first) and satan?  But no doubt some saw it as you say, like Gallio at Corinth.

 

14 But when Paul was about to open his mouth, Gallio said unto the Jews, If indeed it were a matter of wrong or of wicked villany, O ye Jews, reason would that I should bear with you:  15 but if they are questions about words and names and your own law, look to it yourselves; I am not minded to be a judge of these matters.  16 And he drove them from the judgment-seat.  17 And they all laid hold on Sosthenes, the ruler of the synagogue, and beat him before the judgment-seat. And Gallio cared for none of these things.

 

 

"non-Jews have used these verses against the Jewish people in a prejudicial manner. For example, there used to be groups which put on 'Passion plays' to stir people up against Jews 'for being Christ killers'."

 

If you know the wonderful Oratorio, The 7 Last Words of Christ by Theodore Dubois, you may note that in his actual version the line is "And the Jews in passing by Him, did blaspheme & revile Him."  That has been changed for modern performance to like "And the crowd in passing by Him . . . ."

 

I can guess that some who went by the name of Jesus were stirred up vs Jews by passion plays (ignoring the Gentile role?).  But how do you know that the motive of the dramatists was anti-Semitic?

 

"Since so much has been done by people in Jesus name, against the Jewish people, it is reasonable for real Christians to have explanations so as not to be confused for those who have misused the name of Jesus to abuse."

 

Yes.  I take this to be a satanic strategy.

 

Once time Jones was running for office vs Smith.  The day before the election Jones got desperate since he was behind in the polls.  So he got him a panel truck, painted it up in garrish colors, outfitted it with a 3000 watt amplifier & bull horns.  And on the truck he put up big signs saying, "VOTE FOR SMITH!"  For long hours of the night before the election, Jones drove his panel truck all over town, cutting across lawns, making a huge commotion.  But the next day Jones won the election!

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Whilst not being overtly scared of things not from God since we have the Spirit of the Father indwelling us, combined with the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit, with my background I tend to be cautious about anything resembling deceit. As for the film, involving such new age and occult ideologies behind the scenes, subliminal and spiritual levels are the ones to be mostly concerned about.

 

Just wear your Holy Spirit  goggles if you are going to see the film, so to speak. Be not afraid of the devil, just know he will try each and everything to coerce you from God's glory. The epic fail since Golgotha. Praise God.

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Qnts2 hath said:

 

"The gospel went first to the Jewish people, and all of the apostles were Jewish. At the time this actually occurred it was a Jewish fight between Jewish people, discussing differences in interpretation of scripture, "

 

How do you know that?  We not wrestle vs flesh & blood but vs principalities & powers.  Would it  not be better to say that the fight was between Believers in Jesus (who were predominantly Jewish at first) and satan?  But no doubt some saw it as you say, like Gallio at Corinth.

 

14 But when Paul was about to open his mouth, Gallio said unto the Jews, If indeed it were a matter of wrong or of wicked villany, O ye Jews, reason would that I should bear with you:  15 but if they are questions about words and names and your own law, look to it yourselves; I am not minded to be a judge of these matters.  16 And he drove them from the judgment-seat.  17 And they all laid hold on Sosthenes, the ruler of the synagogue, and beat him before the judgment-seat. And Gallio cared for none of these things.

 

 

"non-Jews have used these verses against the Jewish people in a prejudicial manner. For example, there used to be groups which put on 'Passion plays' to stir people up against Jews 'for being Christ killers'."

 

If you know the wonderful Oratorio, The 7 Last Words of Christ by Theodore Dubois, you may note that in his actual version the line is "And the Jews in passing by Him, did blaspheme & revile Him."  That has been changed for modern performance to like "And the crowd in passing by Him . . . ."

 

I can guess that some who went by the name of Jesus were stirred up vs Jews by passion plays (ignoring the Gentile role?).  But how do you know that the motive of the dramatists was anti-Semitic?

 

"Since so much has been done by people in Jesus name, against the Jewish people, it is reasonable for real Christians to have explanations so as not to be confused for those who have misused the name of Jesus to abuse."

 

Yes.  I take this to be a satanic strategy.

 

Once time Jones was running for office vs Smith.  The day before the election Jones got desperate since he was behind in the polls.  So he got him a panel truck, painted it up in garrish colors, outfitted it with a 3000 watt amplifier & bull horns.  And on the truck he put up big signs saying, "VOTE FOR SMITH!"  For long hours of the night before the election, Jones drove his panel truck all over town, cutting across lawns, making a huge commotion.  But the next day Jones won the election!

 

In Hitlers Nazi Germany, Hitler liked and approved of Passion plays, blaming the Jews for the murder of Christ.  This was not unusual in Passion plays in history, and often these stirred up the crowds to viciously attack Jewish communities in Europe and Russia. 

 

Christianity Today had an article discussing this very thing called 'Why some Jews fear The Passion' which was published around the time of Mel Gibsons movie. 

 

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/news/2004/feb20.html

 

From the Christianity today article:

 

Hitler employed Oberammergau in a similar fashion. He remembered that during and immediately following the Middle Ages, enraged Passion play spectators sometimes invaded the ghettos to exact revenge on Jews for killing Jesus. He hoped Christians would react similarly after viewing the Oberammergau Passion Play.

 

And the last paragraph:

 

Outbreaks of Christian anti-Semitism related to the Passion narrative have been so numerous and destructive that theologian and Holocaust survivor Eliezer Berkovits concluded, "the New Testament is the most dangerous anti-Semitic tract in human history." But neither the New Testament nor The Passion of the Christ is about Jewish deicide or revenge. Each is about God placing the iniquities of us all on his one and only son, who suffered unspeakable brutality to redeem his estranged children. Now is the time for Christians to disavow the history of Passion-linked hatred and show Jews "how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ" (Eph. 3:18).

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Qnts2 hath said:

 

"The gospel went first to the Jewish people, and all of the apostles were Jewish. At the time this actually occurred it was a Jewish fight between Jewish people, discussing differences in interpretation of scripture, "

 

How do you know that?  We not wrestle vs flesh & blood but vs principalities & powers.  Would it  not be better to say that the fight was between Believers in Jesus (who were predominantly Jewish at first) and satan?

While I won't argue that it was Satan warring against the believers, the claim that the Believers in Jesus were predominantly Jewish at first is rather odd.

The original believers were all Jewish!

The ~120 in the Upper Room on Pentecost were all Jewish.

The 3000 who were added to their numbers that day were all Jewish.

It was not until some unknown time later when Peter went to Cornelius that we began seeing Gentiles added into the faith.

Unless you read things differently in Acts?

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