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Pope's message fullfills prophecy?

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http://www.amazingfa...l-prophecy.aspx

 

What do you think????



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I don't think the message in itself does.  If you see a large number of protestants join the Catholic Church, it may indicate a move towards a one world religion, but I haven't seen anything close to that yet.  I admit protestants don't seem to look on the Catholic Church with the same disdain they used to, but I think that is more about a general tolerance attitude than people wanting to join with the Catholic Church.  Lets see if this leads anywhere. 



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Yeah! Let's see what this will lead to.

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I somehow doubt it. Hes always been a bit liberal as far as popes go, hes just trying to bring people into the fold thats all.



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why on earth do i get a such bad feeling from the pope and the person? i asked myself is this feeling of dread just from what i have heard about him or is it something else? idk... i must be imagining things.



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I somehow doubt it. Hes always been a bit liberal as far as popes go, hes just trying to bring people into the fold thats all.

That is exactly the point bring all the people together into one world church. The bible says in the end times there will be two groups. One who take the mark of the beast and one whom keep the commandments and have the testimony of Jesus :) Although it is true, that they have tried it before, this times seems different. More direct marketing, charisma, and spiritualism. Scripture says in the end there will be one world church!!



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why on earth do i get a such bad feeling from the pope and the person? i asked myself is this feeling of dread just from what i have heard about him or is it something else? idk... i must be imagining things.

You are not imagining it, there is something about this lastest attempt to unite the churches into a one world church that seems like it is likely to happen this time. The marketing is different, the charisma is different and the spiritualism is more intense.



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I somehow doubt it. Hes always been a bit liberal as far as popes go, hes just trying to bring people into the fold thats all.

That is exactly the point bring all the people together into one world church. The bible says in the end times there will be two groups. One who take the mark of the beast and one whom keep the commandments and have the testimony of Jesus :) Although it is true, that they have tried it before, this times seems different. More direct marketing, charisma, and spiritualism. Scripture says in the end there will be one world church!!

 

 

ya well the previous pope was preaching that to. and the one before that. and furthermore theyre not the only church to do so, there are a few others. Big whoop, the new pope is preaching the same thing the last one did in different words.



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why on earth do i get a such bad feeling from the pope and the person? i asked myself is this feeling of dread just from what i have heard about him or is it something else? idk... i must be imagining things.

I don't think you are imagining it ...i get the same feelings



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Without a doubt the Holy Roman Empire (the Roman Catholic Church) hit a grand slam with this new Pope.

 

Have you noticed how the media is almost giddy when doing stories about him?

 

Until Francis, the claims against Catholic Priests abusing children would not go away.

 

Now... poof! they're all gone.

 

I do not believe Francis is disingenuous or anything. That's what made him such a good choice by those who are really in charge... a great piece of damage control work for the Cardinal staff.

 

Roman Catholicism taps into that (nearly) incurable religious vein in humanity. People love a religion and religious experiences... which actually interferes  with a true relationship with God.

 

If you look at the Bible overall as God trying to wean humanity off of religion or our religious bent, it makes a lot more sense why he did things the way he did.

 

We Protestants cannot sit back and point fingers at Catholics and say, "Aha!" Not really. Since so much of Protestant organizational structures and practices are essentially variations on Catholicism.

 

The priesthood is not a good old boys club of the few the proud the seminarians... but in the Church organism, we are a kingdom of priests each and every one of us.

 

1 John 1 (KJV)
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

 

1 John 2:1-9 (KJV)
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.



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Food for thought...

 

In Matthew 13, Jesus Christ upset the applecart.

 

He basically told the religious Jews they got it all wrong. His exposition on Torah (Matthew chapters 5-7) where he contrasted how rabbinical sages interpreted Torah with how God intended Torah to condemn and not save while pointing to him who could save out of sheer mercy (2 Corinthians 3:6 / Galatians 3:24-25). It's not about religion at all. God gave the Old Covenant as the religion God would accept but no one (save Jesus) could ever keep the Law completely... if for no other reason that we are born in sin and he was virgin born.

 

Jesus spoke of the satanic infiltration into Judaism (Matthew 13:28). The infiltration in the Jewish leadership was most instrumental in preventing the Jews from believing in their Messiah Y'shua (Jesus). After all they were in the seat of Moses which God originally sanctified. The persecution of the early Church by these leaders was picked up later by the Romans. The effect was to separate Jewish people from Christ by several generations. An almost irreversible tactic. "this is the way we've done it since my grandfather's grandfather was is diapers..."  

 

Then one day a Roman Emperor got the idea that the way to deal with his crumbling empire (that needed two Capitols) was to legalize Christianity.  The Romans had persecuted Christians in the worst ways... but somehow there was a cohesiveness in Christianity his Empire sorely lacked. I do not know if the plans of Emperor Constantine and his Mommy went any further than setting Christianity up as the Religion of State... but their efforts lead eventually to the transformation of the Roman Empire into the Roman Catholic Empire (the Holy Roman Empire that unbeknownst to scholars never did go into hibernation as many of them teach).

 

Think about it.

 

The Catholic capital city is still Rome.

 

Emperor / Pope

 

Senate / Cardinals

 

Regional Governors / Bishops

 

etc.

 

And its structure is that it is the go between for Christians to get to God rather than the direct relationship with God Christians truly have. And Catholicism imposed the Old Covenant division (clergy / laity) on New Covenant believers hamstringing the evangelical spreading of the true Gospel...

 

Again, the Protestant movement did little to no changes in the basic organization structure and is essentially Roman Catholic Lite, with the older denominations appearing almost exactly like Roman Catholicism in structure and practice.

 

 

This is NOT to say dump everything and build your own (improved) version as so many cultists set out to do. This IS to say be ye informed and the only way to do this is through extensive Bible study with the Holy Spirit as your Tutor. DO what the Bible says. And you will discover your spiritual gifts and calling into that ministry which is uniquely your own. Your priesthood in other words with Christ Jesus as our only High Priest. Then as members of the Body Christian grow into their priesthood, the Church will again be the infectious global evangelism mechanism it was in the beginning... and not just another world religion.

 

 



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Food for thought...

 

In Matthew 13, Jesus Christ upset the applecart.

 

He basically told the religious Jews they got it all wrong. His exposition on Torah (Matthew chapters 5-7) where he contrasted how rabbinical sages interpreted Torah with how God intended Torah to condemn and not save while pointing to him who could save out of sheer mercy (2 Corinthians 3:6 / Galatians 3:24-25). It's not about religion at all. God gave the Old Covenant as the religion God would accept but no one (save Jesus) could ever keep the Law completely... if for no other reason that we are born in sin and he was virgin born.

 

Jesus spoke of the satanic infiltration into Judaism (Matthew 13:28). The infiltration in the Jewish leadership was most instrumental in preventing the Jews from believing in their Messiah Y'shua (Jesus). After all they were in the seat of Moses which God originally sanctified. The persecution of the early Church by these leaders was picked up later by the Romans. The effect was to separate Jewish people from Christ by several generations. An almost irreversible tactic. "this is the way we've done it since my grandfather's grandfather was is diapers..."  

 

Then one day a Roman Emperor got the idea that the way to deal with his crumbling empire (that needed two Capitols) was to legalize Christianity.  The Romans had persecuted Christians in the worst ways... but somehow there was a cohesiveness in Christianity his Empire sorely lacked. I do not know if the plans of Emperor Constantine and his Mommy went any further than setting Christianity up as the Religion of State... but their efforts lead eventually to the transformation of the Roman Empire into the Roman Catholic Empire (the Holy Roman Empire that unbeknownst to scholars never did go into hibernation as many of them teach).

 

Think about it.

 

The Catholic capital city is still Rome.

 

Emperor / Pope

 

Senate / Cardinals

 

Regional Governors / Bishops

 

etc.

 

And its structure is that it is the go between for Christians to get to God rather than the direct relationship with God Christians truly have. And Catholicism imposed the Old Covenant division (clergy / laity) on New Covenant believers hamstringing the evangelical spreading of the true Gospel...

 

Again, the Protestant movement did little to no changes in the basic organization structure and is essentially Roman Catholic Lite, with the older denominations appearing almost exactly like Roman Catholicism in structure and practice.

 

This is NOT to say dump everything and build your own (improved) version as so many cultists set out to do. This IS to say be ye informed and the only way to do this is through extensive Bible study with the Holy Spirit as your Tutor. DO what the Bible says. And you will discover your spiritual gifts and calling into that ministry which is uniquely your own. Your priesthood in other words with Christ Jesus as our only High Priest. Then as members of the Body Christian grow into their priesthood, the Church will again be the infectious global evangelism mechanism it was in the beginning... and not just another world religion.

 

Amen~!

 

~

 

Dump Everything

 

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

 

And Turn To Christ, The Almighty, The KING OF THE JEWS

 

But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. Matthew 23:8

 

And To His Papa

 

And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Matthew 23:9

 

See

 

Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. Matthew 23:10

 

For Only Jesus

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

Saves

 

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9



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Food for thought...

 

In Matthew 13, Jesus Christ upset the applecart.

 

He basically told the religious Jews they got it all wrong. His exposition on Torah (Matthew chapters 5-7) where he contrasted how rabbinical sages interpreted Torah with how God intended Torah to condemn and not save while pointing to him who could save out of sheer mercy (2 Corinthians 3:6 / Galatians 3:24-25). It's not about religion at all. God gave the Old Covenant as the religion God would accept but no one (save Jesus) could ever keep the Law completely... if for no other reason that we are born in sin and he was virgin born.

 

Jesus spoke of the satanic infiltration into Judaism (Matthew 13:28). The infiltration in the Jewish leadership was most instrumental in preventing the Jews from believing in their Messiah Y'shua (Jesus). After all they were in the seat of Moses which God originally sanctified. The persecution of the early Church by these leaders was picked up later by the Romans. The effect was to separate Jewish people from Christ by several generations. An almost irreversible tactic. "this is the way we've done it since my grandfather's grandfather was is diapers..."  

 

Then one day a Roman Emperor got the idea that the way to deal with his crumbling empire (that needed two Capitols) was to legalize Christianity.  The Romans had persecuted Christians in the worst ways... but somehow there was a cohesiveness in Christianity his Empire sorely lacked. I do not know if the plans of Emperor Constantine and his Mommy went any further than setting Christianity up as the Religion of State... but their efforts lead eventually to the transformation of the Roman Empire into the Roman Catholic Empire (the Holy Roman Empire that unbeknownst to scholars never did go into hibernation as many of them teach).

 

Think about it.

 

The Catholic capital city is still Rome.

 

Emperor / Pope

 

Senate / Cardinals

 

Regional Governors / Bishops

 

etc.

 

And its structure is that it is the go between for Christians to get to God rather than the direct relationship with God Christians truly have. And Catholicism imposed the Old Covenant division (clergy / laity) on New Covenant believers hamstringing the evangelical spreading of the true Gospel...

 

Again, the Protestant movement did little to no changes in the basic organization structure and is essentially Roman Catholic Lite, with the older denominations appearing almost exactly like Roman Catholicism in structure and practice.

 

This is NOT to say dump everything and build your own (improved) version as so many cultists set out to do. This IS to say be ye informed and the only way to do this is through extensive Bible study with the Holy Spirit as your Tutor. DO what the Bible says. And you will discover your spiritual gifts and calling into that ministry which is uniquely your own. Your priesthood in other words with Christ Jesus as our only High Priest. Then as members of the Body Christian grow into their priesthood, the Church will again be the infectious global evangelism mechanism it was in the beginning... and not just another world religion.

 

Amen~!

 

~

 

Dump Everything

 

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

 

And Turn To Christ, The Almighty, The KING OF THE JEWS

 

But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. Matthew 23:8

 

And To His Papa

 

And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Matthew 23:9

 

See

 

Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. Matthew 23:10

 

For Only Jesus

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

Saves

 

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

 

Amen !!






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