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Federalizing 4 year olds

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http://www.cnsnews.c...ing-4-year-olds

 

 

So I am not thrilled with the HHS/Obot plan! I don't want the federal government coming into my house to check on my children or grandchildren. This is total takeover of the family unit by the Obots and HHS. What do you all think? How are you going to feel if the federal government knocks on your door as soon as your child is born and starts doing "home visits", before you even have a chance to even get you child to sleep through the night? I think that this will start making people go back to having children at home and not recording their births. This is not only wrong it is dangerous.



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Children are not the property of their parents and whilst they are responsible for their care  and upbringing, there is a need for other social structures that both support the parents and protect the children from potential abuse. We al know that sometimes horrible things happen in families.



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Children are not the property of their parents and whilst they are responsible for their care  and upbringing, there is a need for other social structures that both support the parents and protect the children from potential abuse. We al know that sometimes horrible things happen in families.

 

Behold the voice of "Big Brother". 'Nuff said.



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Our constitution prohibits unlawful search. In the us they cant just come in unless they have reports of abuse etc. Amor you may like that kind of thing where you are but it is against the laws of my country. Therefore it is quite anathema to us.



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Communism.....

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The state is big brother. Parents are more important than teachers or God forbid, government representatives.



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Do not be deceived; the enemy wants to take over in a very innocent way.  Submit to God.  Resist the devil, and he will flee.  Father God, have mercy on these people and their wicked agendas in governments all over the world.  Protect our families, cover us with the blood of the Lamb.  Thank you Lord.



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Children are not the property of their parents and whilst they are responsible for their care  and upbringing, there is a need for other social structures that both support the parents and protect the children from potential abuse. We al know that sometimes horrible things happen in families.

Children are members of families and unless there is abuse the government has no right at all to come into someones home.



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Our constitution prohibits unlawful search. In the us they cant just come in unless they have reports of abuse etc. Amor you may like that kind of thing where you are but it is against the laws of my country. Therefore it is quite anathema to us.

Thank you Jadey!



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Do not be deceived; the enemy wants to take over in a very innocent way.  Submit to God.  Resist the devil, and he will flee.  Father God, have mercy on these people and their wicked agendas in governments all over the world.  Protect our families, cover us with the blood of the Lamb.  Thank you Lord.

Amen!!



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       Nebraska State Senator Peter Hoaglund embodies the globalist attitude when he stated in a radio interview:

 

                "Fundamental, Bible-believing people [Jews and Christians] do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs, because we, the state, are preparing them to be part of a one-world global society, and their children will not fit in."



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Children are not the property of their parents and whilst they are responsible for their care  and upbringing, there is a need for other social structures that both support the parents and protect the children from potential abuse. We al know that sometimes horrible things happen in families.

Abuse is the exception, not the rule.  The government has no business interfering with how anyone raises their kids.  If there is a clear case of sexual or physical abuse, of course someone must step in, but in all other cases, I am opposed to the government getting involved.  It doesn't take a village to raise children, it takes a family, the child's family.  I am even opposed to the government telling parents they must send their children to school and interfering with the family's medical decisions for their children.  The government needs to keep their nose out of our business. 



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Children are not the property of their parents and whilst they are responsible for their care  and upbringing, there is a need for other social structures that both support the parents and protect the children from potential abuse. We al know that sometimes horrible things happen in families.

 

Children are not the property of a government either. This might be okay in your culture, amor (not sure what culture that is) but it's not okay here.  In fact, it would be illegal here. 



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"Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted."

 

Vladimir Lenin



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Nebraska State Senator Peter Hoaglund embodies the globalist attitude when he stated in a radio interview:

"Fundamental, Bible-believing people [Jews and Christians] do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs, because we, the state, are preparing them to be part of a one-world global society, and their children will not fit in."


I've been trying to get that across to people for about 40yeasr...

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       Nebraska State Senator Peter Hoaglund embodies the globalist attitude when he stated in a radio interview:

 

                "Fundamental, Bible-believing people [Jews and Christians] do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs, because we, the state, are preparing them to be part of a one-world global society, and their children will not fit in."

We have every right to pass the truth of the Bible down to our children and grandchildren. They are the ones who have no right to interferr in our family units.



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Children are not the property of their parents and whilst they are responsible for their care  and upbringing, there is a need for other social structures that both support the parents and protect the children from potential abuse. We al know that sometimes horrible things happen in families.

Abuse is the exception, not the rule.  The government has no business interfering with how anyone raises their kids.  If there is a clear case of sexual or physical abuse, of course someone must step in, but in all other cases, I am opposed to the government getting involved.  It doesn't take a village to raise children, it takes a family, the child's family.  I am even opposed to the government telling parents they must send their children to school and interfering with the family's medical decisions for their children.  The government needs to keep their nose out of our business. 

 

Amen



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Oakwood you like me live in a society where every child receives a mandatory visit from  a  Health Visitor 2 or 3 times in their pre-school years. It seems a sensible policy to me . If you think it's tyrannous, what are you doing to resist this tyranny?

 

With regard to non-British posters, Since acts of great evil occur in a small minority of families,  society has some obligation to take modest measures to identify that evil. As it is  in all countries far too many children are abused or killed by parents.

 

As to medical care, well adults can make their own decisions, but I don't see why the children of Jehovah's witnesses should be allowed to die or the daughters of North African Muslims be infibulated just because of the stupidity of their parents. Presumably, a child's right to life doesn't cease at birth..



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Amor, I assume you are referring to your NHS?  It looks like we might be heading in your direction, but I hope not.  The position of far too many people is that the government (social workers, government health workers, etc.) knows best and always acts with the purest of motives.  I strenuously disagree with that.  You made this statement:

 

...society has some obligation to take modest measures to identify that evil.

 

 

If by "society" you mean a faceless government bureaucracy then I think you are wrong.  But if by "society" you mean neighbors, family, and other people who may know the situation in question, then I would agree.  A moral and civilized society cares for each other.  When you pass off societal oblignations to a central bureaucracy, made up of people nobody knows, and that establishes it's own arbitrary rules for society to abide by, then you take away the freedom of self governance, something Americans (used to, at least) cherish.  And eventually you get a society incapable of making decisions for itself, determining what's best for itself, and they will always be looking to the authorities for approval or living in fear that they are breaking some rule or another.  To that kind of pathetic existance, I say, "No thank you."



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The entire article can be broken down to it's lowest common denominator........This is what the socialists want: State being the parent and teacher, moms and dads are just breeders.  (from one of the comments below the article)   :help:  Jesus come quickly !






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