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why civilizations end and why population needs to go down

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http://www.kpho.com/...eems-inevitable

 

 

Seems the groundwork for reducing the worlds population has been laid out.



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Whoa, stop right there!

The first few opening lines mention income equality. They always have to bring that one in don't they? Since when has income equality ever caused any civilisation to collapse? Even seriously imbalanced 'income' populations never collapsed because of this. This is a complete lie. I smell propaganda in this article and the smell was noticeable straight away, before I had even got a quarter of the way down the page.

Now, what exactly do they mean by income equality? Are they talking about one sector of population living in gluttonous wealth whilst the other sector is starving, or are they talking about some people living in mansions, having their own private helicopters, flashy cars and swimming pools whilst others have to work for a living and can't afford to buy their very own tropical island?

Income inequality doesn't matter as long as nobody lives in endless, abject and inescapable poverty.

I notice too that this article has an environmental theme and it talks about population control. It infers that civilisations collapse because they become too large and outstrip their own resources. This is simply not true. A population cannot even become too large if the resources aren't there in the first place. Undernourished women don't give birth to healthy kids and sustainable populations don't rely on the politics of human intervention. Populations automatically have their own built-in control. Your country will have a population of five million, fifty million or five hundred million according to its own natural level.

What this article fails to mention is the real cause of collapse, and that is corruption from within. Immorality, decadence, sedition and apathy have been the major factor behind the collapse of any civilisations as history has proven time and again. A secondary and less common reason has been because of outside forces destroying the civilisation.

The moral of the story here is that all civilisations need to prevent treason from within and defend their borders against any outside evils.

 

This article is utter rubbish!



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its just more liberal rhetoric its all it is. there have been factions trying to control world population, as well as specific-abortion was actually originally geared toward controlling the African American population. This is no more then liberals trying to scare people into turning to socialism. . .



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Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it...

If you want to see why civilizations collapse look towards ancient Rome and its decadence.

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I'm happy to say I'm a childree adult and forever will be. I'm doing my part.



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Blessings Everyone......

     All agreed.......I have one question for DRS,"what is a childree?"I looked it up & only came up with variants of Childrey,is this someone I should know?

                                                                                                                                       With love-in Christ,Kwik



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Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it...

If you want to see why civilizations collapse look towards ancient Rome and its decadence.

Yeah, but those of us who do study history are cursed to have to set back and watch it happen again anyway...



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Blessings Everyone......

     All agreed.......I have one question for DRS,"what is a childree?"I looked it up & only came up with variants of Childrey,is this someone I should know?

                                                                                                                                       With love-in Christ,Kwik

I think his "f" key didn't work......   it appears to me to be child free...



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Blessings other one!

      Now I am laughing again,this time at myself! How obvious......& I was looking up childee?Talk about "Worthy is the Lamb of God",I think this is just as silly!                                                                               Thank you my Brother(lol).......Kwik

 

Sorry DRS,I should have realized,strike that silly question!



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I'm happy to say I'm a childree adult and forever will be. I'm doing my part.

 

Do you mean 'child free'?  As in you have no children?



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Whoa, stop right there!

The first few opening lines mention income equality. They always have to bring that one in don't they? Since when has income equality ever caused any civilisation to collapse? Even seriously imbalanced 'income' populations never collapsed because of this. This is a complete lie. I smell propaganda in this article and the smell was noticeable straight away, before I had even got a quarter of the way down the page.

Now, what exactly do they mean by income equality? Are they talking about one sector of population living in gluttonous wealth whilst the other sector is starving, or are they talking about some people living in mansions, having their own private helicopters, flashy cars and swimming pools whilst others have to work for a living and can't afford to buy their very own tropical island?

Income inequality doesn't matter as long as nobody lives in endless, abject and inescapable poverty.

I notice too that this article has an environmental theme and it talks about population control. It infers that civilisations collapse because they become too large and outstrip their own resources. This is simply not true. A population cannot even become too large if the resources aren't there in the first place. Undernourished women don't give birth to healthy kids and sustainable populations don't rely on the politics of human intervention. Populations automatically have their own built-in control. Your country will have a population of five million, fifty million or five hundred million according to its own natural level.

What this article fails to mention is the real cause of collapse, and that is corruption from within. Immorality, decadence, sedition and apathy have been the major factor behind the collapse of any civilisations as history has proven time and again. A secondary and less common reason has been because of outside forces destroying the civilisation.

The moral of the story here is that all civilisations need to prevent treason from within and defend their borders against any outside evils.

 

This article is utter rubbish!

 

I agree.  They also left out the fact that most empires that collapsed overextended themselves, i.e., trying to govern too much territory.  I've never read anything about 'income inequality' having any significant part in the demise of cultures.  The author is either stupid or has an agenda.  Neither of which makes for a good article.



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Whoa, stop right there!

The first few opening lines mention income equality. They always have to bring that one in don't they? Since when has income equality ever caused any civilisation to collapse? Even seriously imbalanced 'income' populations never collapsed because of this. This is a complete lie. I smell propaganda in this article and the smell was noticeable straight away, before I had even got a quarter of the way down the page.

Now, what exactly do they mean by income equality? Are they talking about one sector of population living in gluttonous wealth whilst the other sector is starving, or are they talking about some people living in mansions, having their own private helicopters, flashy cars and swimming pools whilst others have to work for a living and can't afford to buy their very own tropical island?

Income inequality doesn't matter as long as nobody lives in endless, abject and inescapable poverty.

I notice too that this article has an environmental theme and it talks about population control. It infers that civilisations collapse because they become too large and outstrip their own resources. This is simply not true. A population cannot even become too large if the resources aren't there in the first place. Undernourished women don't give birth to healthy kids and sustainable populations don't rely on the politics of human intervention. Populations automatically have their own built-in control. Your country will have a population of five million, fifty million or five hundred million according to its own natural level.

What this article fails to mention is the real cause of collapse, and that is corruption from within. Immorality, decadence, sedition and apathy have been the major factor behind the collapse of any civilisations as history has proven time and again. A secondary and less common reason has been because of outside forces destroying the civilisation.

The moral of the story here is that all civilisations need to prevent treason from within and defend their borders against any outside evils.

 

This article is utter rubbish!

 

I agree.  They also left out the fact that most empires that collapsed overextended themselves, i.e., trying to govern too much territory.  I've never read anything about 'income inequality' having any significant part in the demise of cultures.  The author is either stupid or has an agenda.  Neither of which makes for a good article.

 

 

Both!  Stupid.. AND with an agenda!



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I'm happy to say I'm a childree adult and forever will be. I'm doing my part.

 

Do you mean 'child free'?  As in you have no children?

 

Blessings Everyone......

     All agreed.......I have one question for DRS,"what is a childree?"I looked it up & only came up with variants of Childrey,is this someone I should know?                                                                                                                                  With love-in Christ,Kwik

 

Blessings MG and kwik and greetings. Yes, the term 'childfree' means that, that person does not have a child. I had recently read a good book, 'Complete Without Kids: An Insider's Guide to Childfree Living by Choice or by Chance' by Ellen L. Walker. She gives us a name, and states that 'childless' is not as healing and promising and nurturing of a word than 'childfree'. Childfree is more of a nurturing words. Knowledge is key. - DRS81



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I think we can look at this from another angle. Though I don't agree with Smith's statement in the Matrix about humans being a virus, it does point to what we, as humans, are doing. We are increasing in number exponentially, spreading ourselves out, and draining the natural resources of this planet. Sooner or later, there will not be enough for all to survive. This does give us something to think about. Personally, I don't think this will really be a serious issue since Christ will return and this will decrease the population by millions, even billions. Check this out ... http://www.worldomet...rld-population/

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Blessings One Light!

    My goodness,,,,that is mindblowing,I can't tell you how long I stared at the numbers rapidly increasing ....the little walk through the ages was unbelievable,I was just intrigued ,it is quite different to talk about it than to see those figures in front of you....cool page!

       I couldn't help but think of  how truly magnificent Our Father is ,that HE knows how many hairs are on each of our heads!Glory to God in the Highest!

                                                                                                                                                                       With love-in Christ,Kwik



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I'm happy to say I'm a childree adult and forever will be. I'm doing my part.

 

Do you mean 'child free'?  As in you have no children?

 

Blessings Everyone......

     All agreed.......I have one question for DRS,"what is a childree?"I looked it up & only came up with variants of Childrey,is this someone I should know?                                                                                                                                  With love-in Christ,Kwik

 

Blessings MG and kwik and greetings. Yes, the term 'childfree' means that, that person does not have a child. I had recently read a good book, 'Complete Without Kids: An Insider's Guide to Childfree Living by Choice or by Chance' by Ellen L. Walker. She gives us a name, and states that 'childless' is not as healing and promising and nurturing of a word than 'childfree'. Childfree is more of a nurturing words. Knowledge is key. - DRS81

 

 

Childfree implies that children are a burden though. 

 

I have no kids but I prefer the term childless than childfree. 



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Childfree implies that children are a burden though. 

 

I have no kids but I prefer the term childless than childfree. 

 

Well you would have to read the book in order to understand why she chose childfree.

I myself think the term childfree is a great name, there's nothing wrong with that.

Some would say that it is a burden to have kids when you don't want them.



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Childfree implies that children are a burden though. 

 

I have no kids but I prefer the term childless than childfree. 

 

Well you would have to read the book in order to understand why she chose childfree.

I myself think the term childfree is a great name, there's nothing wrong with that.

Some would say that it is a burden to have kids when you don't want them.

 

 

No one should ever have children unless they want them.  Unfortunately, many do and the children pay the price for that.  A person who doesn't want children should remain child free and not worry about what others think.  It's a personal decision.



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Proverbs 14:28   In the multitude of people is the king’s glory; But in the want of people is the destruction of the prince.

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I once calculated that you could put the entire population of the world in Texas and could still live in relative comfort, I think it was like 15 to 20 people per square mile.

I think we'd have be closer to 100 billion people before resources become a problem, but with technology and resourceful planning it would still be sustainable.

The only issue that causes shortages of resources is greed and corruption. People living in excessive abundance while others live in excessive poverty.

 

I do believe that as Christians we are expected to help the impoverished if we are blessed with wealth, but most of the incalculably rich don't live that way.

 

There are some very evil billionaires that use their wealth to perpetuate suffering and do nothing to alleviate it. 
 






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