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Sympathy for the Devil … or Pilate


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OldSchool2

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from Sympathy for the Devil … or Pilate
by Brian Zahnd

"In making Christ the chaplain-in-chief of Constantinian Christianity what we have unwittingly done is invent a Manichean Jesus who saves our souls while leaving us free to run the affairs of the world as we see fit. Which is what we want — especially if the present arrangement of the world has our own particular nation situated near the top. Because while we believe in Jesus as savior of the private soul, we remain largely unconvinced about his ideas for saving the world. We have a kind of sympathy for Pilate. Certainly seventeen centuries of church history strongly suggest this is the case. American Christians especially should keep in mind that we as the modern Romans — the privileged citizens of the world’s lone superpower — have more in common with Pontius Pilate than we do with Galilean peasants ..."

By his many crucifixions, Pilate had practically deforested Judea and was even recalled to Rome for his brutality (!), yet he is often portrayed sympathetically, especially in American cinema.

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Maybe this is why I rarely attend such cinama. The Nativity was portrayed quite well, however.

However it is not our job to establish socialism to save the world as some of our political non believers think. Liberation theology tells people that identifying with the poor brings their salvation or liberates them from bondage of poverty, and so brings about global salvation by global government of socialism. This is a different gospel than the Bible teaches of the salvation of the indivual soul, and those who preach liberation theology are accursed.

I went to his Word of Life churches web site and tried to look up salvation, repentance, and born again in a search but got no hits. He started out right having been saved in a crusade of Dave Wilkerson's and pastored a Baptist church. But then he said the Word of Faith like church he later founded was not growing so he got a revelation that he should preach about ministering to the poor, the prisoners and the sick. He claims that Jesus is everywhere, in the person who is being ministered to as well as in the person doing the ministering. Is this universal salvation? Does he think that this is the mellinium? I don't think 1/3 of the earth has been destroyed as yet so that is a lie. They believe in loving and forgiving others and doing good. These are very good but are impossible without personal salvation. So I had a whole lot of trouble learning how they think one should become a Christian. By identifying with the poor, perhaps?

I found his sermons boring. Zahnd is throwing out blanket accusations against the churches. However, Satan is the accuser of the brethern. Then he claims we are like Pilate who crucified thousands simply because we are wealthier than the humble Galaleans.. Zahnd is called a post modernist of the emergent church. And in all his claim to orthodoxy, it sounds much like liberation theology to me.
Meanwhile some of us have preached the Gospel of personal salvation and even have gone around the world as missionaries and Bible translators to spread the Gospel. There some have lived among the common people or have supported others to enable them to go, and have paid for the printing of those Bibles. We have shared foòd and clothing with the poor here and abroad.

This all makes me wonder how many houses and cars he possesses. I have noticed that preachers who bring railing accusations against others the most are themselves in need of repentance. Case in point is Jimmy Swaggart.

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FresnoJoe

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Liberation theology tells people that identifying with the poor brings their salvation

 

or liberates them from bondage of poverty, and so brings about global salvation

 

by global government of socialism.

 

 

This is a different gospel than the Bible teaches of the salvation of the individual soul,

 

and those who preach liberation theology are accursed.

 

:thumbsup:

 

Love The LORD

 

And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment. Luke 7:37-38

 

Or Love The World

 

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. 1 John 2:15-17

 

When Jesus Is Come

 

The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. Joel 3:16

 

This Sin Filled World Is Done

 

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. Revelation 20:7-11

 

~

 

Beloved Reader

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

While There Is Still Time

 

Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 2 Corinthians 5:20

 

Love, Joe



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Individually brought to life, in unity, from a place that is not our home... Wow!
At least we cannot say 'How did I get here' or 'why is this place so messed up'.
Love, Steven

Edited by enoob57, 07 May 2014 - 08:00 AM.


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why does it matter how his personality was? only what he did to jesus counts, not?






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