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I have been all over the web and youtube and i see everyone getting hyped up and overly excited about the blood moons, prophecy and the end times.But i also see everyone making the same mistake they made before. for example when december 20th 2012 was approaching ppl were freaking out making videos how the end is here and how God gave them a dream or a word that this is the end or that the rapture would take place before december 20th.

but when it came and passed nothing happened and their excuses were God Tarried or gave us more time. the exact same scenario with comet ison and now the blood moons specifically dates around the first one. you know how many ppl say the rapture is april 15? ppl actually ignore scripture how no one knows the day or hour and claim God himself told them and some even speak for him saying stuff like son of man write my words for the bride or cherished daughter tell them this.... as if it was God himself talking which is extremely dangerous.

Not to mention dates about his wrath which they do the same thing. sure something will happen with israel but i doubt its the first moon. ppl dont seem to see this pattern and get super hyped up and set dates and then when it passes and nothing happens do they quit? no they make excuses and carry on. so what i am trying to say is its okay to expect something to happen but dont pin your hopes in it and stay calm and level headed unless you want a repeat on the 12/20/12 or comet ison

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The thing is, the Blood Moon hype is actually based on scripture. The December 2012 thing was not!

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I have been all over the web and youtube and i see everyone getting hyped up and overly excited about the blood moons, prophecy and the end times.But i also see everyone making the same mistake they made before. for example when december 20th 2012 was approaching ppl were freaking out making videos how the end is here and how God gave them a dream or a word that this is the end or that the rapture would take place before december 20th.

but when it came and passed nothing happened and their excuses were God Tarried or gave us more time. the exact same scenario with comet ison and now the blood moons specifically dates around the first one. you know how many ppl say the rapture is april 15? ppl actually ignore scripture how no one knows the day or hour and claim God himself told them and some even speak for him saying stuff like son of man write my words for the bride or cherished daughter tell them this.... as if it was God himself talking which is extremely dangerous.

Not to mention dates about his wrath which they do the same thing. sure something will happen with israel but i doubt its the first moon. ppl dont seem to see this pattern and get super hyped up and set dates and then when it passes and nothing happens do they quit? no they make excuses and carry on. so what i am trying to say is its okay to expect something to happen but dont pin your hopes in it and stay calm and level headed unless you want a repeat on the 12/20/12 or comet ison

I agree.First of all it is a source of date setting.I believe the blood moons are over a period of two years.

Also there are other references of other events that go along with the blood moon regarding the end times.

Revelation 6:12  When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, ithere was a great earthquake, and jthe sun became black as ksackcloth, the full moon became like blood,

If God has meant the Blood moons to be what is indicated in the Bible we will find out when it happens.

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I have been all over the web and youtube and i see everyone getting hyped up and overly excited about the blood moons, prophecy and the end times.But i also see everyone making the same mistake they made before. for example when december 20th 2012 was approaching ppl were freaking out making videos how the end is here and how God gave them a dream or a word that this is the end or that the rapture would take place before december 20th.

 

Yeah but you're also making a mistake too. 2012 was just based on conspiracy theories and hollywood yuppies wanting money. The four blood moons is a fact and proof that it will happen and is bigger than Hollywood. This is actually real, unlike all those UFO movies they put out. The fact that it's only happened like 3 times in 500 years is quite astounding, and every time it's happened something big has occurred. So I would say being excited about it is a good thing and well deserved, because the universe is God's blueprint and if we don't pay attention to that we will never look up to our redemption. Get excited!

Luke 21:25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

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I suggest that you look at Israel and the blood moons. 

 

The War of Independence — 1948

  • Passover, April 13, 1949
  • Sukkoth, Oct. 7, 1949
  • Passover, April 2, 1950
  • Sukkoth, Sept. 26, 1950

 

The Six-Day War — 1967

  • First Day of Passover, April 24, 1967
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 18, 1967
  • First Day of Passover. April 13, 1968
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 6, 1968

 

Leave the hype and conspiracy theories alone and look at Israels history.

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I suggest that you look at Israel and the blood moons. 

 

The War of Independence — 1948

  • Passover, April 13, 1949
  • Sukkoth, Oct. 7, 1949
  • Passover, April 2, 1950
  • Sukkoth, Sept. 26, 1950

 

The Six-Day War — 1967

  • First Day of Passover, April 24, 1967
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 18, 1967
  • First Day of Passover. April 13, 1968
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 6, 1968

 

Leave the hype and conspiracy theories alone and look at Israels history.

Yes,these things have already come to pass.In Matthew God says that we are not to look at tomorrow.Leave it to Him.

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I suggest that you look at Israel and the blood moons. 

 

The War of Independence — 1948

  • Passover, April 13, 1949
  • Sukkoth, Oct. 7, 1949
  • Passover, April 2, 1950
  • Sukkoth, Sept. 26, 1950

 

The Six-Day War — 1967

  • First Day of Passover, April 24, 1967
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 18, 1967
  • First Day of Passover. April 13, 1968
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 6, 1968

 

Leave the hype and conspiracy theories alone and look at Israels history.

Yes,these things have already come to pass.In Matthew God says that we are not to look at tomorrow.Leave it to Him.

 

 

Interesting comment from you, Bo ... since you are usually pretty active in the rapture threads.  I fail to see how it is OK to discuss the rapture while we should leave the blood moons alone?  Can you help me understand??

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I suggest that you look at Israel and the blood moons. 

 

The War of Independence — 1948

  • Passover, April 13, 1949
  • Sukkoth, Oct. 7, 1949
  • Passover, April 2, 1950
  • Sukkoth, Sept. 26, 1950

 

The Six-Day War — 1967

  • First Day of Passover, April 24, 1967
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 18, 1967
  • First Day of Passover. April 13, 1968
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 6, 1968

 

Leave the hype and conspiracy theories alone and look at Israels history.

Yes,these things have already come to pass.In Matthew God says that we are not to look at tomorrow.Leave it to Him.

 

 

Interesting comment from you, Bo ... since you are usually pretty active in the rapture threads.  I fail to see how it is OK to discuss the rapture while we should leave the blood moons alone?  Can you help me understand??

 

I consider it a form of date setting.I am never ok with that pre-trib or not.

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I suggest that you look at Israel and the blood moons. 

 

The War of Independence — 1948

  • Passover, April 13, 1949
  • Sukkoth, Oct. 7, 1949
  • Passover, April 2, 1950
  • Sukkoth, Sept. 26, 1950

 

The Six-Day War — 1967

  • First Day of Passover, April 24, 1967
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 18, 1967
  • First Day of Passover. April 13, 1968
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 6, 1968

 

Leave the hype and conspiracy theories alone and look at Israels history.

Yes,these things have already come to pass.In Matthew God says that we are not to look at tomorrow.Leave it to Him.

 

As I said on another thread, these eclipses for this year are NOT visible in Israel.

 

A blood moon is a total eclipse of a full moon, which makes the moon look pinkish. This one will be visible from the U.S. but not Israel. Blood moons are not that unusual. Tetrads are less usual (eclipsed full moons 6 months apart). but again, these will not be visible in Israel.

 

Rev.  6:12

I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The Sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair. The whole Moon turned blood red.”

 

If the sun doesn't turn black in the next couple of days, a sign is missing. Plus, again, this must occur visibly in Israel which it won't.    

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I suggest that you look at Israel and the blood moons. 

 

The War of Independence — 1948

  • Passover, April 13, 1949
  • Sukkoth, Oct. 7, 1949
  • Passover, April 2, 1950
  • Sukkoth, Sept. 26, 1950

 

The Six-Day War — 1967

  • First Day of Passover, April 24, 1967
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 18, 1967
  • First Day of Passover. April 13, 1968
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 6, 1968

 

Leave the hype and conspiracy theories alone and look at Israels history.

Yes,these things have already come to pass.In Matthew God says that we are not to look at tomorrow.Leave it to Him.

 

 

Interesting comment from you, Bo ... since you are usually pretty active in the rapture threads.  I fail to see how it is OK to discuss the rapture while we should leave the blood moons alone?  Can you help me understand??

 

I consider it a form of date setting.I am never ok with that pre-trib or not.

 

 

I don't believe in date setting also, yet, very important and interesting things have happened and will happen within the blood-moons.  To ignore this, and scripture about it, would be limiting ones understanding and not being very watchful.  Do I believe the end of the world conspiracy?  Not for one minute. Do I think the rapture will happen on a blood moon?  Not really, but since we don't know the day nor hours, the day cannot be ignored, except these blood moons don't seem to follow what scripture says will happen before the rapture.  I do, however feel it is important to watch and see if Israel is effected in any way.

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I suggest that you look at Israel and the blood moons. 

 

The War of Independence — 1948

  • Passover, April 13, 1949
  • Sukkoth, Oct. 7, 1949
  • Passover, April 2, 1950
  • Sukkoth, Sept. 26, 1950

 

The Six-Day War — 1967

  • First Day of Passover, April 24, 1967
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 18, 1967
  • First Day of Passover. April 13, 1968
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 6, 1968

 

Leave the hype and conspiracy theories alone and look at Israels history.

Yes,these things have already come to pass.In Matthew God says that we are not to look at tomorrow.Leave it to Him.

 

As I said on another thread, these eclipses for this year are NOT visible in Israel.

 

A blood moon is a total eclipse of a full moon, which makes the moon look pinkish. This one will be visible from the U.S. but not Israel. Blood moons are not that unusual. Tetrads are less usual (eclipsed full moons 6 months apart). but again, these will not be visible in Israel.

 

Rev.  6:12

I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The Sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair. The whole Moon turned blood red.”

 

If the sun doesn't turn black in the next couple of days, a sign is missing. Plus, again, this must occur visibly in Israel which it won't.    

 

 

Do you have data as to where the blood moon were viewed from for 194, 1040, 1967 and 1968?  Were they viewable from Israel then?  I tried to find the information, but gave up after looking through enough conspiracy sites.

 

Edited to add the link to NASA Eclipse Web Site, which is very interesting and informative.

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I suggest that you look at Israel and the blood moons.

 

The War of Independence — 1948

  • Passover, April 13, 1949
  • Sukkoth, Oct. 7, 1949
  • Passover, April 2, 1950
  • Sukkoth, Sept. 26, 1950

 

The Six-Day War — 1967

  • First Day of Passover, April 24, 1967
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 18, 1967
  • First Day of Passover. April 13, 1968
  • First Day of Sukkoth, Oct. 6, 1968

 

Leave the hype and conspiracy theories alone and look at Israels history.

 

Yes, these things have already come to pass. In Matthew God says that we are not to look at tomorrow. Leave it to Him.

 

Interesting comment from you, Bo ... since you are usually pretty active in the rapture threads.  I fail to see how it is OK to discuss the rapture while we should leave the blood moons alone?  Can you help me understand??

 

I consider it a form of date setting. I am never ok with that pre-trib or not.

 

:thumbsup:

 

The Other Reason The Sun

 

Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night.

 

They will serve as signs for festivals

 

and for days and years. Genesis 1:14 (HCSB)

 

And The Moon Were Created

 

Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel.

 

Thus says the Lord:

“Learn not the way of the nations,

nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens

because the nations are dismayed at them, Jeremiah 10:1-2

 

Believe It

 

“Do not forget this! Keep it in mind!

Remember this, you guilty ones.

 

Remember the things I have done in the past.

For I alone am God!

I am God, and there is none like me.

 

Only I can tell you the future

before it even happens.

Everything I plan will come to pass,

for I do whatever I wish. Isaiah 46:8-10 (NIV)

 

Or Not

 

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

 

Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. Matthew 2:1-2 (KJV)

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Well, I would have to agree with fire-heart on two things.....    First people really did hype December 2012.....    talks of the Mayans predicting a catastrophic end of the world.....    well they did reset their calender, but they never said it would be the end of the world....   Neither did the Aztec's or the Chinese Sumerian Egyptians or the Cherokee Indians......     What they said was that their old gods would return and a new age would commence....

 

Likewise other than Mark Blitz I don't see a lot of serious Bible people saying Jesus will return......    Actually the blood moons really aren't covered in detail in prophecy other than the moor turning to blood just before Jesus returns.....    but it doesn't talk about four times.

 

The blood moons that are being talked about concern actual history much more so than scripture.....    And even with history, the things that happened to Israel as these blood moons came about didn't happen on the blood moons, but within a year or so either before or after.

 

I might add that when we were in Mexico last year visiting the Mayan ruins I asked two Mayan priests if Bolon Yokte Ku'h had returned.....     they looked very shocked at the question and would not answer ..        I would only say that we will not know if these old gods have started some things in the background to bring about the Antichrist.

 

Likewise we really may not see things on the surface during the next year or so to know if these blood moons really have any effect on world things.  It could be some time before we know.......    and then again maybe not.

 

I can tell you that there are significant things happening in the spiritual world that don't make sense to me right now......   things are changing....   old spirits are bugging our place that have been dormant for 25 years.

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believe me i know the history of the blood moons and israel which is why i say something will happen. but trust me when i say lots if ppl are date setting and are speaking for God. and yes i know of the scriptures concerning these things and i have no issue with ppl bring interested in these events as i myself have done in depth research on them. but what concerns me is lots of ppl are consumed by this stuff, like i said i have been all over the web and youtube i have talked with and listeneď to hundreds of ppl in my research of these things and saddly i have seen many who all they think about is these things and they take their eyes and hearts completely off God. the only time they seem to go him is to constantly ask him how soon till we go home.

I am homesick too i want to be with my lord too but i have been down this road. i and many others i knew were obsesed with the rapture and would be lead astray by every hype believing we would go home but after a long time of getting hyped up only to be let down there was a period where i had lost any sort of hope for going home. but eventually i got some of it back and we all went down that road again but we became spiritually exhausted all the time literally runing on fumes. I then had a serious talk with God i decided to hope for the rapture but my focus would be on God himself and our relatonship. however only a few of us realized what we were doing to outselves and to this day many are still on this path. lots of them are famous youtubers.

these blood moons are bible prophecy but the devil will also do to others what he did to me. to the point where they lose any hope for the rapture and will become spiritually exhausted. Right now there is a spiritual war going on and satan is being clever, he wants to wear out the saints do when the time comes they would have hardened their hearts and fallen asleep but the oil would run dry and he is doing a good job of it. so yes i am a hypocrite because i myself went down this road but i realized the danger and the damage i was doing to my faith

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I too have been down that road and I've expected to see things happen that didn't happen (9/11 - yeah Nostradamus predicted that apparently, the end of the World is here,and so on..... )

 

I had a quick glimpse at Amazon the other day and all the Mayan 2012 prophecy books are now being flogged off second hand or for ridiculously low prices because now that the time has come and gone, the books are practically worthless. These scam artists have made their money from selling these lies to people and if they had any sense of shame they'd be giving all that money back.

I don't expect much. I'm not sitting around waiting for the rapture, nor am I trying to predict what will happen with this Blood Moon thing. All I'm expecting to see happen in the next two, three, five, ten or fifteen years is more of what we are seeing now, the ever looming End times and some more fireworks and fisticuffs!

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I don't see how expecting Jesus return takes one's mind off of God so I would have to disagree.....     my concern is what happens to many peoples faith when it doesn't happen......     assuming it won't happen.   If they are right we will simply be pleasantly surprised I guess.

 

I would think it would bring an urgency to the Gospel for the next couple of years....

 

Anyway i'm a lot more concerned about what happens to people if Jesus doesn't return after the series is over.    But there is a good chance that things are going to happen in Israel and I'm a lot more concerned as to whether or not we as a nation will stand behind or along side of Israel through whatever may happen.   It may well be that these are the sign that we as a nation have turned our backs on Israel.   I don't think any of us know what this administration is capable of.   They seem to sink lower and lower each year.

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I have been all over the web and youtube and i see everyone getting hyped up and overly excited about the blood moons, prophecy and the end times.But i also see everyone making the same mistake they made before. for example when december 20th 2012 was approaching ppl were freaking out making videos how the end is here and how God gave them a dream or a word that this is the end or that the rapture would take place before december 20th.

but when it came and passed nothing happened and their excuses were God Tarried or gave us more time. the exact same scenario with comet ison and now the blood moons specifically dates around the first one. you know how many ppl say the rapture is april 15? ppl actually ignore scripture how no one knows the day or hour and claim God himself told them and some even speak for him saying stuff like son of man write my words for the bride or cherished daughter tell them this.... as if it was God himself talking which is extremely dangerous.

 

 

 

Hi fire-heart

 

I think I know how you feel. I have also been all over the net and youtube. There is not one video or article that I would recommend. I also search forums. I use boardreader, omgili and the google discussion search. I never was afraid of the Mayan calendar. I am only concerned with God's Jubilee calendar. Hyped up or excited are not the right words. Apprehension, alarm or plain old fear is what I feel. What if these six feast day eclipses really do signal the start of The Great Tribulation but the rapture happens on the wrong end of it? Will you still be disappointed if the blood moons mark the start of "The Time of The End" but the rapture happens on "the last day" of it? The rapture will not occur on April 15,2014. Trust me. 

 

Remember The Sabbath

Dave

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Personally I think that you have your pre-tribbers who can not wait for the rapture to happen and the people who are scared to death it will happen.  :noidea:

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Personally I think that you have your pre-tribbers who can not wait for the rapture to happen and the people who are scared to death it will happen.  :noidea:

 

 

Um....yes!  Exactly. 

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This person makes a good point though:

 

"The lunar tetrads in question actually appeared after the events described – between ten months and sixteen years later! Therefore these ‘blood moons’ were not warnings at all but, as it were, ‘prophecies after the fact.’

 

"The advocates of the current ‘blood moons’ teaching use special pleading in arguing why a lunar eclipse in 1949 is actually connected to 1948, or why a ‘blood moon’ in 1494 is connected to 1492, etc."

 

Read full analysis here

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- The occurrence of a lunar eclipse is common

- The occurrence of a total lunar eclipse is less common

- The occurrence of a Tetrad or four consecutive Blood Moons (total lunar eclipses) is rare

- The occurrence of a Tetrad with a total solar eclipse within its series is very rare

- A Tetrad with a total solar eclipse that is significant to Israel's history and the Jewish Feasts is very, very rare

- The occurrence of a Tetrad with a total solar eclipse historically significant to Israel and Jewish Feasts that includes a Shemittah year within its series is very, very, very rare
- But a Tetrad with a total solar eclipse, historically significant to Israel and falling on the Jewish Feasts with a Shemittah year that corresponds with the Feast of Trumpets (the Jewish New Year) within its series is astronomically rare!

 

From the book, the Four Blood Moons by John Hagee

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Personally I think that you have your pre-tribbers who can not wait for the rapture to happen and the people who are scared to death it will happen.  :noidea:

That's funny, but not even close to reality.

Pre-tribbers can't wait for the rapture and believe it is imminent and that nothing else needs to happen before it occurs, but the others are not fearful that it will happen, but rather know that it is not imminent and other prophecies do precede it.

The real question is, will you be prepared if it does not play out the way you thought? If not, you just might be the one who is scared to death.

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The HS has indwelt us Believers for the past 2000 years, Christians have come and gone, they endured to their end, some died violent deaths, others not so violent.  So Thunder what are you saying, we are not prepared as pre-tribbers?  We are not prepared as those over the past 2000 years were prepared.  Yet, I do not see much hope for anyone above 60 years of age at this present time to make it into the final 3 1/2 years.  We are mostly couch potatoes now, why think one can do hard labor or live in extreme distress for seven years or 3 1/2 years,  if they are ready for it now.  Better do workouts in the gym, go backpacking for weeks on end to get prepared.  Go to boot camps, learn survival techniques, know how to use a rifle and knife, live off the land, steal from your neighbors, harvest then gut an animal.  If one is sickly, uses a walker, on meds - they are dead meat.  Is ones spouse healthy enough to take on this long journey.  Will they be left behind at some point.    For the Post-Tribber one must be prepared now, if they think they can make it to the Second Coming, do you have a stock pile of supplies for this seven year journey (Un Biblical).  Work a day for your food for the day, those with the mark will get priority ahead of you.  Starvation is an ugly death.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

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The HS has indwelt us Believers for the past 2000 years, Christians have come and gone, they endured to their end, some died violent deaths, others not so violent.  So Thunder what are you saying, we are not prepared as pre-tribbers?  We are not prepared as those over the past 2000 years were prepared.  Yet, I do not see much hope for anyone above 60 years of age at this present time to make it into the final 3 1/2 years.  We are mostly couch potatoes now, why think one can do hard labor or live in extreme distress for seven years or 3 1/2 years,  if they are ready for it now.  Better do workouts in the gym, go backpacking for weeks on end to get prepared.  Go to boot camps, learn survival techniques, know how to use a rifle and knife, live off the land, steal from your neighbors, harvest then gut an animal.  If one is sickly, uses a walker, on meds - they are dead meat.  Is ones spouse healthy enough to take on this long journey.  Will they be left behind at some point.    For the Post-Tribber one must be prepared now, if they think they can make it to the Second Coming, do you have a stock pile of supplies for this seven year journey (Un Biblical).  Work a day for your food for the day, those with the mark will get priority ahead of you.  Starvation is an ugly death.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

No I'm not making any such blanket statements. But it seems ridiculous that those of us that do not believe in the pre-trib rapture are fearful of the rapture occurring sooner.

I do know some pre-tribbers in my neck of the woods who are preparing to endure just in case they are wrong. I'm not going to say that all pre-tribbers will be fearful, but scripture says that there will be a falling away and the abomination of desolation will both occur (before) our gathering to the Lord. What is that falling away? Could it be many of those pre-tribbers who were taught that they would be raptured 3 1/2 years before this time are departing the faith? Could it be that they will then turn and run in order to survive what they know is coming? What is that falling away?

It looks to me like history is going to repeat. Just like the days before the first coming, the most popular belief was that the Messiah, a great and mighty conquering King would come and defeat Israel's enemies. Very few of them were able to recognize Him when He came as a lowly suffering servant (Lamb of God), so they rejected Him. Only a few were able to recognize and receive Him. And now we find that He is coming again, and the most popular belief today, is that we will not see any hardship at all, because they will be raptured seven full years before the second coming. Many are placing a lot of faith in the pre-trib rapture. So again I ask the question, what is this falling away that will occur before our gathering?

I love my pre-trib brothers and sisters, but it is going to be very interesting when Daniel's 70th week begins and they are still here. And soon the economy will collapse. Will they be able to beat the clock and get the supplies they will need to endure, or will the mark of the beast beat them to the punch? Time is certainly going to tell.

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When my mother was in very good physical health except for occasionally her heart would skip a few beets.....   actually enough that she would faint so she had a pace maker put in so she could still drive.   Knowing that she had Alzheimers and some day would not be able to swallow, she went through all the legal hoops to make sure we never gave her feeding tubes.

 

Very long story to the point where she actually could not swallow anything.....    It took her about ten days to pass and much of that time I sat there holding her hand....     she didn't seem to be in any real pain and her breathing got shallower and slower until she just didn't take another breath....

 

I am assuming mom actually died from dehydration and not from food, but it didn't seem painful, and she died with a really nice smile on her face....   I will always thing she saw something on the other side, but who knows....

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