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"There's a hefty price for taking ownership of your life....If you don't like your life, it's your fault!"

 

-Abi Stumvoll

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"There's a hefty price for taking ownership of your life....If you don't like your life, it's your fault!"

 

-Abi Stumvoll

 

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Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28

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"There's a hefty price for taking ownership of your life....If you don't like your life, it's your fault!"

 

-Abi Stumvoll

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." -Jesus 

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"There's a hefty price for taking ownership of your life....If you don't like your life, it's your fault!"

 

-Abi Stumvoll

It's going to be interesting to see how people react to this question....

 

If you don't take ownership, you can't change it....

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I do not have ownership of my life.I give my life,my heart and my mind to God everyday.He is in that drivers seat on this journey.I am in the passengers seat.

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I do not have ownership of my life.I give my life,my heart and my mind to God everyday.He is in that drivers seat on this journey.I am in the passengers seat.

Actually you do peep....    you made the decision to let God have control, but God didn't require that of you......   it was your personal decision to do so......    he also will not keep that relationship unless you want it that way.....    so in a very real sense you do have ownership of your life.....   you just decided to share it with God.....   but that is your own decision each day.

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I do not have ownership of my life.I give my life,my heart and my mind to God everyday.He is in that drivers seat on this journey.I am in the passengers seat.

Actually you do peep....    you made the decision to let God have control, but God didn't require that of you......   it was your personal decision to do so......    he also will not keep that relationship unless you want it that way.....    so in a very real sense you do have ownership of your life.....   you just decided to share it with God.....   but that is your own decision each day.

 

It is called.......... a choice.

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I would have to disagree somewhat with that statement.  For some of us, our lives were shaped in the beginning by circumstances beyond our control.  I realize that some will use the lemon statement - if life hands you lemons, make lemonade - but some things cannot be changed so easily, just by making a pat statement.

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I would have to disagree somewhat with that statement.  For some of us, our lives were shaped in the beginning by circumstances beyond our control.  I realize that some will use the lemon statement - if life hands you lemons, make lemonade - but some things cannot be changed so easily, just by making a pat statement.

I don't think I know what you are saying.Are you saying it is not your fault for not believing?

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I would have to disagree somewhat with that statement.  For some of us, our lives were shaped in the beginning by circumstances beyond our control.  I realize that some will use the lemon statement - if life hands you lemons, make lemonade - but some things cannot be changed so easily, just by making a pat statement.

I don't think I know what you are saying.Are you saying it is not your fault for not believing?

 

 

No, I was referring to the original statement:

 

"There's a hefty price for taking ownership of your life....If you don't like your life, it's your fault!"

 

For some of us, the deck was stacked against us before we could make informed decisions about our lives.  I wasn't referring to the choice to believe in God.

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Blessings Sister neb.....

    I agree wholeheartedly........Glory to God! It is certainly our choice to make of it what we want by choice & reliquishing all of "self" as Bo Peep has said, it makes all the difference in the world(or out of this world-lol)    We can wallow in self pity,we can decide to claim Victory in Christ we can move forward into focusing on what is eternal and walk in Spirit & in Truth

    Sin has its reprocussions too,even after coming to Christ but we are more than conquerors in Christ Jesus,we are overcomers...I don't like a lot of my lifes circumstances(temporal) but I love my life(eternal)......Praise the Lord!  

                                                                                                                          With love in Christ,Kwik

 

Saw a fellow on Trinity Broadcast this morning,he has no arms & no legs,he was born this way.......He has taken ownership of his life & he loves it,he flies 120 times a year spreading the Gospel all over the World,He is filled with the Joy of the Lord! What an inspiration!Makes me want to scream to some folks"Get over It!"

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I believe I am in charge of my own life, when I make mistakes it is for me to put them right. I don't  owe any allegiance to any deity as I don't believe any exits.

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I Believe

 

He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God. Luke 9:20

 

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I believe I am in charge of my own life, when I make mistakes it is for me to put them right. I don't owe any allegiance to any deity as I don't believe any exits.

 

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Double*

 

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

 

There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

 

They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Romans 3:10-12

 

Double Toil*

 

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23

 

And Trouble*

 

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

 

*With A Tip Of The Hat To W Shakespeare

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I believe I am in charge of my own life, when I make mistakes it is for me to put them right. I don't  owe any allegiance to any deity as I don't believe any exits.

Goodness you must have a lot of faith in something.....   we just got back from a two week fishing trip and to think all that I saw and experienced in that two weeks just randomly happened from out of nothing.......     It's remarkable the amount of faith that one must have to really believe that.

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I have faith in myself. I am far from perfect, but good enough, I hope, I certainly have no wish to be a saint! :grin: 

 

As to how the universe came about, I very much doubt any deity did the business. The creation story in the Bible isn't credible, imo. I reckon science will explain all eventually 

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JJ50.  It seems to me like you are taking an awful risk putting your faith in the idea that "I reckon science will explain all eventually."  Look what else you said.  "I very much doubt any deity did the business?"  You said that in reference to the creation.  Lets suppose you are wrong, and the Bible is the Word of God.  Where does that leave you?  Another observation.  For some unexplained reason, you sought out and joined a Christian message board, even though you claim no belief in God.  I am going to go out on a limb and tell you why you did that.  God is leaving you no excuse at the final judgment.  He brought you here to hear the truth.  You will either leave here with a change of heart, as a born again Christian on you way to heaven, or you will continue on reckoning science will explain how we got here and doubting the existence of your creator.  That will result in your spending eternity in the lake of fire, which I am sure you very much doubt too. 

 

I am going to make this suggestion to you.  You cared enough to join a Christian message board to discuss religion, that you doubt exists.  Why not take the time to read the Bible from cover to cover and call out to God to see if he answers you after you are done?  Challenge him to make himself known to you.  What have you got to lose? 

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I have read the Bible from cover to cover many times and still do. Each time I read that book it confirms my view that it was written by humans with no input from any deity. If it exists and is as portrayed in the Bible I had better in asbestos clothing as I am for the burning! :grin: The deity didn't bother to come through for me when I was a Christian as a child, so if it couldn't come through for me then, either it doesn't care, or much more likely doesn't exist!

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So we're back to Pascal's Wager, then?  What do you mean by didn't come through for you?

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Why in the world would you read the Bible over and over if you don't believe it?  What a waste of time!  Once should be sufficient.  I have read the Bible more than 15 times, but that is to learn from it, because I believe it.  You don't believe in God, but you join a Christian message board?  You don't believe the Bible is God's Word, yet you read it repeatedly?  I don't understand you.  You say God didn't come through for you when you were a child.  God has a plan for his creation, and everything is about getting us from point A in Genesis to the conclusion at the end of Revelation.  He doesn't always give us what we want, and sometimes we have to go through bad things.  At the same time, to those of us who serve him, he has promised he will take the bad and use it for our good. 

 

If I looked at things like you do JJ50, I wouldn't waste my precious time arguing with people of a faith I don't share.  You are an animal, and you have a limited lifespan.  Eat, drink and be merry, because this is all you have to look forward to.  After this life ends, you have nothing but eternal torment to look forward to, so enjoy the little time of happiness you have.  Maybe you will live to be 100?  I hope so, but that is a drop in the bucket in comparison to a million years or a billion years of torment, and knowing that even when a trillion years have passed, there is no hope in sight.  I tried, and that is all God requires of me.  I hope you change your mind before it is too late.  If you wish to talk further, feel free to contact me and I will get back to you when I can. 

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Let's Step back for a moment here. I think reading the Bible repeatedly is a commendable activity for people of all faiths or no faith at all. To be at this site is an indication of openness to a whole spectrum of ideas and truths. This too is commendable. Let''s just be willing to engage without judgment and present Christ as best we can to an open mind.

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Some people seem to delight in the idea of people burning in a lake of fire for ever and ever, which is pretty sick. It is not a credible scenario of course!
 

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Some people seem to delight in the idea of people burning in a lake of fire for ever and ever, which is pretty sick. It is not a credible scenario of course!

 

Hummmm......  I have hundreds of Christian acquaintances and a few very good friends and not one of us delight in anyone going to hell.....   I don't know where you have been around Christians like that but there are not any among my friends.    It makes me sad that even the devil will end up there.....   such a beautiful creation gone totally for bad seems like such a waste....

 

Anyway, I'll not badger you about it....

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Keep in mind the TOS:

 

You may not post any material that is disrespectful of God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, or the Bible.

 

The outer Court is an area where we allow anyone who wishes to learn more about our belief to ask questions and learn.

 

If anyone is here thinking they can abuse the ToS will have to change or consider another site.  Worthy is a ministry that is more than willing to discuss scripture, but only in  a respectful way.

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I have read the Bible from cover to cover many times and still do. Each time I read that book it confirms my view that it was written by humans with no input from any deity. If it exists and is as portrayed in the Bible I had better in asbestos clothing as I am for the burning! :grin: The deity didn't bother to come through for me when I was a Christian as a child, so if it couldn't come through for me then, either it doesn't care, or much more likely doesn't exist!

 

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Nevertheless Beloved

 

So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it. Isaiah 55:11 (NASB)

 

It Will Judge You

 

"He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. John 12:48 (NASB)

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Nobody, including me, delights in the idea of people burning in the lake of fire forever.  I am just warning what will happen to those who reject Jesus.  Jesus himself went out of his way to warn people so they won't end up in hell.  Remember what he said about it being better to lose a hand or even an eye in this life rather than to wind up in hell in the next life.  There is a difference in warning someone of where they are heading and delighting in it.  If I delighted in it, I wouldn't warn them. 

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