Revelation 11

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The key to who the two witnesses are is the reference to the two olive trees.  They are the natural olive tree (believing Israelites) and the grafted-in olive tree (believing gentiles).  This is to say, they are not two men; but, rather, two groups.

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I do agree very much with this interpretation either, I thought of it myself much hut still there are living witnesses of what is going on who could share. I don't know if that is the same as God's witnesses but still. Also about the two olive trees I think most of the believing Christians are in USA, so it could be two countries.

 

 

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Hi there!

Out of curiosity, if you take this view, shouldn't you also see the subsequent bodily resurrection of the two witnesses as the rapture? Do you therefore believe that the rapture happens at this point in Revelation?

 

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The key to who the two witnesses are is the reference to the two olive trees.  They are the natural olive tree (believing Israelites) and the grafted-in olive tree (believing gentiles).  This is to say, they are not two men; but, rather, two groups.

There's some very serious problems with this method of allegorical interpretation, the primary one being that anyone can make anything out of any Scripture. In the Bible, a prophet is a prophet, not a group of prophets. These two men are clearly called prophets, so that is where we must begin. If they are also called "olive trees" and "lampstands" (candlesticks) then THESE ARE METAPHORS for those two prophets.  Then we must search for the meaning of the metaphors as they apply to human beings who will not only (1) prophesy, (2) bring God's judgements on the ungodly, (3) testify to the truth, (4) earn the hatred of the ungodly as well as Satan, (4) be killed, (5) be resurrected, and (6) ascend up to Heaven.

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Hi Ezra, I agree with you too but I have some hope because in Book of Daniel for example beasts are being slayed but this is not literal, they get out of importance. So I think for three and half years these prophets are largely forgotten until their words become clear or something like this. At the beginning some will be happy the prophets are gone and will rejoice but then God will return them.

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To be fair to ave, the two witnesses are also described as lampstands and the same symbol is used for churches in 1:20.

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"Thy word is a lamp unto my feet"  - King David.

"They (the scriptures) testify of me" said Jesus.

"these are the two anointed ones that stand by the Lord of the whole earth"  - Zechariah.

The scriptures are God's witnesses in the earth, they "stand by" Him.

The lamp stand is a sanctuary item, in the Holy place, the first apartment of the building. And the light comes from the lamps burning oil from the two olive trees. Oil is used as a symbol of what feeds the faith of the saints, the understanding of the word by the Holy Spirit.

"Faith comes by hearing (obeying the Holy Spirit) and hearing by the word."

The holy writings of the Bible - the writings which point forward to Christ in the Old Testament, and the writings which point back to Christ - in the New Testament are the two witnesses in the world which illuminate through the Revelation of Jesus Christ, by the Holy Spirit."

"He that hath an ear let him hear what the Spirit says unto the churches" 

They were given power to witness, during the terrible reign of the Papacy which banned the Bible, which lasted for 1260 days, or 42 months, 30 days X 42 =1260. A day in vision time is equal to one year. 

The beast that arose after the Papacy ended was what country? What country officially burned Bibles, and said "kill the wretch" about Christ? What agency did God use to resurrect the publication of the Bible shortly after that?

 

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