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Hi Guys and Gals,

 

As some of you know i believe the pre wrath view on the rapture and as such i believe we will go past the mid point into the tribulation, as believers, and so i  should be prepared that my house not be broken up.

 

I think spiritual preparedness is the number one priority, but then it always should be anyway.

 

But besides that i believe God wants us to be prepared for these days, otherwise he would not have told us about them.

 

In order to have an effective evangelistic ministry during these days its a good idea to not be focused on housing and food and generally trying to stay alive but rather the Lords work.

 

So, i am currently moving out of Sydney (Australia) and moving to a small village in the country with a population of less than 100.

 

Ive enuf money to buy land and home outright so i cant be evicted come those dark days.

 

I will be buying a sea container, a refrigerated one, to store food for those days. I hope to store enuf food to help feed our brothers and sisters in Christ who did not prepare for these days.

 

I will more than likely build an underground bunker to hide in if need be also.

 

I am also working on devices to enable off grid power supply (not solar) and my own tank water supply.

 

Is anyone else preparing?  I love to hear your plans.

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If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go; if anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed (Rev 13:10).  No one can buy or sell except they have the mark of the beast.  Those with the mark will take your land away from you, because you will not be able to own anything.  It just may take a little longer for them.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

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If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go; if anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed (Rev 13:10).  No one can buy or sell except they have the mark of the beast.  Those with the mark will take your land away from you, because you will not be able to own anything.  It just may take a little longer for them.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

Yes this is true though in my view we are removed before the mark of the beast comes into effect as that is later on in rev. I believe we will be present only up untill the Day of the Lord which is the 7th seal so we will be raptured on the 6th seal.

 

So we will go through war, famines and pestilence, natural disasters and martyrdom. These i believe happen before the mark of the beast, so i should hopefully be safe with my property ownership.

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It all depends on when the "he" signs the 7 year agreement; and the "he" is healed of his fatal wound.  All the would will know and most will follow him, this is when the mark of the beast will be applied, and the worshiping of the beast will begin.  "If you follow me" you will take my mark and worship me.

 

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Montana Marv

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It all depends on when the "he" signs the 7 year agreement; and the "he" is healed of his fatal wound.  All the would will know and most will follow him, this is when the mark of the beast will be applied, and the worshiping of the beast will begin.  "If you follow me" you will take my mark and worship me.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

Well its my opinion that he confirms the covenant at the beginning of the tribulation and it is in fact the very sign which signifies the beginning of the tribulation. I believe many children of God wont even realise they are in the trib till much later if they miss this important event.

 

He isnt revealed however until the midway point of the 7 years. This is when he really starts doing his clown thing. So i guess his head wound would be after this point like the mark is.

 

But i get what you say, i just believe different bud. :)

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I should add that even if i believed in a pre trib i will still do this as its something ive wanted to do anyway.

 

I run a business online so its easy for me to semi retire (at age 46 lol) and relax.

 

If im wrong and we are pre reptured, ive nothing to lose, but if i am right..........?

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Well then you are blessed, at 46 and ready to retire.

I'm in enough tribulation being unemployed and trying to stay afloat financially, emotionally, and thus spiritually. I cant imagine the Lord allowing additional suffering because I am in a 'have not' position to 'prepare' for great tribulation. So who survives the 'great tribulation' until His coming, in essence would depend on your financial status/preparation? That doesnt sound like my Saviour.

He is mighty to save.

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Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life which the Son of man will give you. (John 6:27)

So fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. (2 Corinthian 4:18)

For we brought nothing in this world, and we can take nothing out of it. (1 Timothy 6:7)

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Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life which the Son of man will give you. (John 6:27)

So fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. (2 Corinthian 4:18)

For we brought nothing in this world, and we can take nothing out of it. (1 Timothy 6:7)

 

Hi Parker, thanks for your comment :)

 

Yes thats true, and thats exactly what i am doing. Being prepared means im free to do the Lords work and not be consumed with just trying to stay alive.

 

I will also be stacking enough food to help out our brothers and sisters in Christ who fail to prepare.

 

Prov 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.

 

I guess im not looking to get goods and horde precious things, i know those are vain and i cant take them with me. I guess i will be spending alot of my time and cash providing for Gods children come those days, with food and possibly even shelter if i can biuld a big enuf bunker under the ground.

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Well then you are blessed, at 46 and ready to retire.

I'm in enough tribulation being unemployed and trying to stay afloat financially, emotionally, and thus spiritually. I cant imagine the Lord allowing additional suffering because I am in a 'have not' position to 'prepare' for great tribulation. So who survives the 'great tribulation' until His coming, in essence would depend on your financial status/preparation? That doesnt sound like my Saviour.

He is mighty to save.

 Yes i am bro, very blessed indeed.

 

Ill be making sure its put to good use for the Lord. :)

 

Through suffering you are refined my brother, count it as joy :)

 

Well i dont think that those who are well of are the ones God will protect, for all i know i will be beheaded for being caught evangelising.  What i am doing will cost about 80k US. Country is cheap, not like the city. You start to prepare bro, God will look after your needs remember.

 

Edit: Brother Hindsfeet, what do you do for a job? Economy and jobs are going great here if you want to live here, will be much safer here too during the trib than the good ole USA.

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I believe that you should be providing for them now, not for some future time when you will have no control over events. But, there are many like you (which is not necessarily a bad thing), who believe that governments don't or won't know every detail of your life and take whatever they want from you any time they want. It's like buying gold as a hedge against inflation. Don't they (governments) know exactly where every ounce of gold is and will seize it when the time is ripe?

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 I did start 'preparing' last year, but then I was reminded that I am not to live in fear, but faith. I've abandoned all 'prep' talk.

He is Jehovah Jireh!

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I guess I had similar thoughts about building underground a few years ago. Reading the Word drastically changed that for me. I couldn't help but wonder what investing any money I had underground would be of any benefit to the kingdom of God today, when so many don't have food or even clean water in some places? Lol, I get planning for your future, but?

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 I did start 'preparing' last year, but then I was reminded that I am not to live in fear, but faith. I've abandoned all 'prep' talk.

He is Jehovah Jireh!

OK, each to his own.

 

But i dont live in fear bro, i just want to do the Lords work.

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I guess I had similar thoughts about building underground a few years ago. Reading the Word drastically changed that for me. I couldn't help but wonder what investing any money I had underground would be of any benefit to the kingdom of God today, when so many don't have food or even clean water in some places? Lol, I get planning for your future, but?

 

Hi Hmbld

 

Not just my future, but my wifes and also those who i can help in "those days". I doubt the church can help the church unless the church or someone in it is prepared right?

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I should add that if you dont feel inclined to do something like this, then dont. Just do what the Lord has called you to do. Whats important above everything is that we live by the faith of the Son of God and not for the fleshy self desires.

 

I guess i just wanted to know who else is preparing and what are their plans :)

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When I first read this I thought, I want to live right next to you! Lol. But, thinking on why I changed my mind a few years ago, what is it preparing for? Don't we already have eternal life? Don't all God's children already have eternal life? What can you provide for someone with eternal life? And what could God do in others lives if we care for the lost instead of our future, a future that God is in control of anyway? Just thinking about how my plans have changed, God bless,

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I believe that you should be providing for them now, not for some future time when you will have no control over events. But, there are many like you (which is not necessarily a bad thing), who believe that governments don't or won't know every detail of your life and take whatever they want from you any time they want. It's like buying gold as a hedge against inflation. Don't they (governments) know exactly where every ounce of gold is and will seize it when the time is ripe?

 

Well i do provide for them now bro.

 

Yes govts know where everything is, except my underground stash. I dont beleive the world govt will come into effect until after the 7th seal and we will be gone by then.

 

<-----that bike will get sacrificed on the alter of a new bunker.

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When I first read this I thought, I want to live right next to you! Lol. But, thinking on why I changed my mind a few years ago, what is it preparing for? Don't we already have eternal life? Don't all God's children already have eternal life? What can you provide for someone with eternal life? And what could God do in others lives if we care for the lost instead of our future, a future that God is in control of anyway? Just thinking about how my plans have changed, God bless,

 

Yes a guess what you say is true, but then God does say to provide for others yes?

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First off, the Church won't be here. So, whether you believe it or not, neither will you or your believing loved ones and friends.

Governments have satelites that can see the license plates on cars. They read your e-mails, listen in on your phone calls, track your every word on the internet. They know which church you go to or if you have a home church. They can know where you are every minute of every day if they want to. Just look at the IRS in America. And Homeland Security, ICE, BLM, Justice Department....there are more than 20 agencies that can monitor everyone in this country, should they choose to. And we know some of them do. So, don't be fooled into thinking that your "stash" is safe from the State. After all, Satan has legions of demons who see and report everything. There is in place the one-world-government, monetary and legal systems everyone thinks is just a myth at this point - controlled by the so-called "Illuminati" - that will become public as soon as the Church is taken out of the way by Christ.

By all means, move to the country, buy land. But use the rest of the money storing up treasures in heaven instead of things here on earth. Sure, someone left here on Earth during the Tribulation will put them to good use, but it most likely won't be believers unless they come to faith when they realize that what you tell them now but rejected was really the Truth. Good luck, my friend. Peace! Out! (Throws down his microphone and walks away.) :laughing:

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First off, the Church won't be here. So, whether you believe it or not, neither will you or your believing loved ones and friends.

Governments have satelites that can see the license plates on cars. They read your e-mails, listen in on your phone calls, track your every word on the internet. They know which church you go to or if you have a home church. They can know where you are every minute of every day if they want to. Just look at the IRS in America. And Homeland Security, ICE, BLM, Justice Department....there are more than 20 agencies that can monitor everyone in this country, should they choose to. And we know some of them do. So, don't be fooled into thinking that your "stash" is safe from the State. After all, Satan has legions of demons who see and report everything. There is in place the one-world-government, monetary and legal systems everyone thinks is just a myth at this point - controlled by the so-called "Illuminati" - that will become public as soon as the Church is taken out of the way by Christ.

By all means, move to the country, buy land. But use the rest of the money storing up treasures in heaven instead of things here on earth. Sure, someone left here on Earth during the Tribulation will put them to good use, but it most likely won't be believers unless they come to faith when they realize that what you tell them now but rejected was really the Truth. Good luck, my friend. Peace! Out! (Throws down his microphone and walks away.) :laughing:

 

 My opinion is that the church will be here. But thats fine if you dont think so. This thread isnt about that.

 

Yes, you are right, govts do know alot about where we are at and what we do, i am aware of that. However i dont think world govt and personal intrusion will be as bad as it will be after the 7th seal and my belief is we are raptured at the 6th seal.

 

 I dont beleive demons can report to man to do the things they want them to. yes they unfluence, but to disclose a bunker i think is giving them a little too much credit.

 

Up to the 7th seal, i dont believe we will see world govt untill after that. So i am not overly concerned with being tracked although i do agree they will to a point.

 

I am wholly prepared for the fact i will be martyred anyway as i will be evangelising as the Lord commands. I will be using social media mostly to do this up until i can no longer do that. Im aware they will look for me for this. So i dont think i will be one of those who get raptured, i think more than likely it will be off with my head, but hey, im happy to do it for the love of Christ :)

 

But thanks for your comments bro, i appreciate it and rest assured ive pretty much looked into everything about this. :)

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You might think the Church will be here but some of us do not.

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You might think the Church will be here but some of us do not.

 

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Amen~!

 

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 2 Timothy 3:12

 

Amen~!

 

As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. Psalms 42:1

 

Amen~!

 

We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:8

 

Maranatha~!

 

The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. Joel 3:16

 

Hallelujah~!

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Being undecided (neither pre-trib nor Post-Trib), I have had to think of the eventuality of possibly enduring the Tribulation but I think the only preparation is to grow in Christ now and if required to, do the Lord's work during the Great Trib.

Don't worry about trying to survive, you might actually be better off dead anyway. Why should anybody with faith worry about dying? Death is nothing because it will be superseded by eternal life.

Besides, we may not live to see the Trib anyway. I know that it's just around the corner but it can't happen until the Jewish Temple has been rebuilt. That could be next year, in five years time or in twenty or thirty years time. I'm fifty now. How much longer do I have left to live?

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You might think the Church will be here but some of us do not.

 

Yes im aware of this bopeep, but this surely does not mean i cant state my opinion that it will be?

 

I mean my opinion, your opinion, neither will change the facts of the matter will it?

 

I mean its either pre trib or its not and no amount of opinion can change that right?

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