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coheir

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We as Christians all know Gods ways are higher than ours and his knowledge

is also far above ours.

For him to put believers above angels I am thinking we are going to need a lot more knowledge than any human can learn on earth.  

And each is at a different level in Christ upon entry.

By level it could be a number of things that determine

that. ( ex. crowns given some may only get one others more.)

Also this verse seems to play a part in some level.

1st Corin 3:15

If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

 

 

 

 

My question is

Do you think God will impart a vast amount of knowledge to

believers in just a few minutes or would you think a more lengthy training

would be in order?



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God usually does things slow and steady he is not the quick and easy type.

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God usually does things slow and steady he is not the quick and easy type.

fire heart I agree I think there will be quiet a bit believers will need to know before any authority is given.



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1 Corinthians 13:11-2 tell us how Paul saw this.
 

When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

 
I believe when we are in His true presence, our understanding will be given to us in that moment.  Remember, our minds will not be the same when we are in our new bodies.



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1 Corinthians 13:11-2 tell us how Paul saw this.
 

When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

 
I believe when we are in His true presence, our understanding will be given to us in that moment.  Remember, our minds will not be the same when we are in our new bodies.

OneLight, Good verse I had not thought of it.  

 

Matt 16:27

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

 

Gives me the idea that some may not be ready to do same assignments.



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I don't think God would give most of us a lot of knowledge at once because we would overlook most of it, but He gives us it slowly so we can absorb it and use it.



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The Holy Spirit was given to be our instructor into all truth, but he doesn't impart all knowledge to us at once,  We stay in the Word, and when we have a question, we can ask him for help understanding things.  In this life, I believe that is the way it works.  In the next life, I imagine we will see how many things we had wrong, when all the truth is revealed. 



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This verse comes to mind:

 

For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.  I Cor 13:12

 

God communicates Himself to us through His Son whom He sent and through His word. the Bible with the Holy Spirit

 

It's not just knowledge, but this knowing ... knowing Him.  and even now, to KNOW Him.  Jesus says to some people who thought they were 'all that' 

 

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

 

So, knowledge is a part of it of course (even what we consider knowledge will pass away if you read I Cor. 1 but not everything

 

I don't know about 'training'...I think it may just be an awareness, complete with understanding, that our present circumstances do not make room for



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While I was pondering on this subject it came to mine that these angels we will judge/oversee have been in the presents of Jesus/God for thousands, if not more, years. Then can this massive amount of

knowledge be put into believers instantly. I realize there may not be an answer for this as we all see dimly now. I agree once a believer enters Heaven instantly they will be aware of a large amount of knowledge they did not have. Im still pondering if that first influx of new knowledge will also include enough to oversee angels.



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You make me chuckle on this one. giggle_20.png   Maybe we will get those big heads like little green men so we can store everything.

 

Guess what.......it's worse then you think:

 

but just as it is written, "THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD, AND which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN, ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."  I Cor 2:9

 

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Actually, I would pray for the next step after knowledge.

 

Wisdom.

 

Someone here once said, and I use it a lot...

 

"Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad"...



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When I read through these replies, I see people continuing to think as if the next life will be no different than this life.  I don't believe that.  I believe when we obtain our new bodies, we will be wired so differently that we will not overlook anything, or have to really remember anything, for we will know as we are known.  Thinking we will continue in the same style of bodies is something I do not find in scripture. 
 
1 Corinthians 15:35-54
 

But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?” Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—perhaps wheat or some other grain. But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.

All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.

There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”



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You make me chuckle on this one. giggle_20.png   Maybe we will get those big heads like little green men so we can store everything.

 

Guess what.......it's worse then you think:

 

but just as it is written, "THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD, AND which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN, ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."  I Cor 2:9

 

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I guess its hard to learn and hide my ignorance at the same time, chuckle on.



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You make me chuckle on this one. giggle_20.png   Maybe we will get those big heads like little green men so we can store everything.

 

Guess what.......it's worse then you think:

 

but just as it is written, "THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD, AND which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN, ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."  I Cor 2:9

 

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I guess its hard to learn and hide my ignorance at the same time, chuckle on.

 

 

 

We all are learning.  Some have been at it longer than others, so not knowing is expected.  Even Paul stated that he didn't have all the answers.

 

1 Corinthians 13:12

 

For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.



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You make me chuckle on this one. giggle_20.png   Maybe we will get those big heads like little green men so we can store everything.

 

Guess what.......it's worse then you think:

 

but just as it is written, "THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD, AND which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN, ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."  I Cor 2:9

 

surprised.png

I guess its hard to learn and hide my ignorance at the same time, chuckle on.

 

 

 

Now now...I never said you were ignorant.  When I wrote chuckle, I put the silly face to try and show how I meant it.

 

I posted the verse that tells us that absolutely none of us, according to God Himself, can imagine all that He has planned for those of us who are in Christ Jesus, His Son.

 

I'm not thinking you are ignorant at all.  I think God Himself puts questions in our hearts so we will search His word and find answers.

 

That's how I really meant things.  I guess those smilies, cute as they are, just don't always convey things right.



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You make me chuckle on this one. giggle_20.png   Maybe we will get those big heads like little green men so we can store everything.

 

Guess what.......it's worse then you think:

 

but just as it is written, "THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD, AND which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN, ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."  I Cor 2:9

 

surprised.png

I guess its hard to learn and hide my ignorance at the same time, chuckle on.

 

 

 

Now now...I never said you were ignorant.  When I wrote chuckle, I put the silly face to try and show how I meant it.

 

I posted the verse that tells us that absolutely none of us, according to God Himself, can imagine all that He has planned for those of us who are in Christ Jesus, His Son.

 

I'm not thinking you are ignorant at all.  I think God Himself puts questions in our hearts so we will search His word and find answers.

 

That's how I really meant things.  I guess those smilies, cute as they are, just don't always convey things right.

 

Im not upset with you Sevenseas, you didnt say that, I said that to let others know that I know im really short on knowledge about this subject and I am. This subject is not something to put a lot of time into I know that too.

It was just a thought and I wanted to here others thoughts. I kind of thought you had a chuckle because I said massive amount of knowledge, which caused the thought to pop into your mind of big heads. I see how you could get a chuckle, thats cool. I was not offended and sometimes im to direct I apologize for that. The fact remains 

I think we will need quiet a bit of info we do not have now before we can oversee angels. which still leaves me pondering how quick it will be given to us. To me it seems odd we could be in Heaven less than 24 hours and be overseeing angels. I do sometimes make my responses to short which can be mistook. 

And other times I just can not find a better way to express my thoughts.

alls good 



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OK ~ I better understand you now....yeah, I did have a chuckle with the big head thing....I do have a bit of an off the wall sense of humor which not everyone shares

 

Having had direct posts myself, I understand

 

Thanks!  blushing_20.png






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