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Hey Beaujangles,

I'm very interested in this topic to, and would love to here some of the scholars takes as well. Thank you for taking the time to copy all of that, i enjoyed reading it. God Bless you Brother!

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Thanks coheir and omega, your input on this thread is appreciated!

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I always thought it was Paul because that is what I was taught. After reading these 2 verse i don't think Paul wrote it. Am i wrong?

"For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. (Galatians 1:12 ESV"

This is from the writer of Hebrews:

"how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. (Hebrews 2:3, 4 ESV)"

it was attested to us by those who heard.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks,

Inchrist

 

Some Christian scholars of history consider the Book of Hebrews written by Apostle Paul through Luke's penmanship. Their reasoning was because of some of the Greek terms used point to Luke since he was doctor.

 

At some point Apostle Paul's eyesight must have failed him:

 

Gal 6:11

11    Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand.

(KJV)

 

 

That's how it could be that Paul was dictating to Luke in writing the Book of Hebrews.

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I always thought it was Paul because that is what I was taught. After reading these 2 verse i don't think Paul wrote it. Am i wrong?

"For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. (Galatians 1:12 ESV"

This is from the writer of Hebrews:

"how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. (Hebrews 2:3, 4 ESV)"

it was attested to us by those who heard.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks,

Inchrist

 

Some Christian scholars of history consider the Book of Hebrews written by Apostle Paul through Luke's penmanship. Their reasoning was because of some of the Greek terms used point to Luke since he was doctor.

 

At some point Apostle Paul's eyesight must have failed him:

 

Gal 6:11

11    Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand.

(KJV)

 

 

That's how it could be that Paul was dictating to Luke in writing the Book of Hebrews.

 

I can certainly see how this could be what happened.  

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I always thought it was Paul because that is what I was taught. After reading these 2 verse i don't think Paul wrote it. Am i wrong?

"For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. (Galatians 1:12 ESV"

This is from the writer of Hebrews:

"how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. (Hebrews 2:3, 4 ESV)"

it was attested to us by those who heard.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks,

Inchrist

 

Some Christian scholars of history consider the Book of Hebrews written by Apostle Paul through Luke's penmanship. Their reasoning was because of some of the Greek terms used point to Luke since he was doctor.

 

At some point Apostle Paul's eyesight must have failed him:

 

Gal 6:11

11    Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand.

(KJV)

 

 

That's how it could be that Paul was dictating to Luke in writing the Book of Hebrews.

 

 

I tend to think that Paul wrote the book of Hebrews. Luke might have been the scribe, so I agree with the basic premise.

 

I am too much of a stickler for detail.

 

Paul would have had great expertise in Greek. Tarsus, where Paul grew up, was a major center of Greek learning, and a major center of Greek philosophy schools Paul illustrates a knowledge of Greek philosophy. So, Paul would not have needed anyone to enhance his knowledge of Greek.  

 

On the other hand, doctors in those days, were not the education level we think of today. In Roman culture, doctors were not high in social status either. Most Greek doctors would have been educated in Tarsus, the same area as Paul/Saul grew up. But there was no required formal education, no certification, etc. Anyone could simply call themselves a physician.  

 

So, I agree with the premise as highly possible, but not with the reasoning.

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I always thought it was Luke.....  just seemed like his style to me but most people I know didn't agree.  I never thought that maybe he wrote it as a scribe for Paul.

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Thanks to all for participating on this topic... It was good to have a comparative on the subject. God bless! David/BeauJangles

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Thanks all!

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My bible said it doesn't appear to be Paul because the writer refers to Timothy as a brother, not as his "Son" as Paul does in his letters.

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I'm not sure who--but I've come to the conclusion that it was probably an apostle or a close associate of at least one apostle (kinda like Mark) because "early Christians originally accepted all the NT books to be inspired by God because they contained teaching from an official apostle."

 

 

--There's a lady response for ya Beau (David). haha

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We are not told for sure who penned the Book of Hebrews, but God wrote it. 

 

Just as man uses a pen as a tool to place ink on a page,

God uses man as a tool to write His words.

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Amen ncn!

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Thanks Bethany

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If not Paul, Barnabas us commonly thought as a popular option.  I've never heard the Paul thru Luke.  I'm not sure how much I like this as it is thought that many of Paul's letter's are thought to have gone thru a secretary of sorts, and that did not seem to dramatically cause as noticeable distinctions in writing styles.

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The Holy Spirit is the only author that matters

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I always thought it was Paul because that is what I was taught. After reading these 2 verse i don't think Paul wrote it. Am i wrong?

 

 

There was a discussion a while back on this topic:

 

From post #15... What do you think inChrist1?

 

I took a course on this a while back and the main source was: Lea, Thomas D., and David Alan Black. The New Testament: Its Background and Message. Second Edition. Nashville: Broadman and Holman, 2003.

Here are some thoughts.

I. AUTHORSHIP: It is clearly anonymous. (Lea, pp. 502-5)

• It seems the 1st-century readers knew who the writer was:

a. The plural number in Heb. 2:1-4; 4:14-16 suggests the writer and readers shared these experiences.

b. Heb. 6:9-11; 10:25, and 32-34 suggest the writer knew personal spiritual details about the readers.

c. Heb. 13:23 suggest the readers knew the writer’s identity, who was coming to visit them.

d. The request for prayer in Heb. 13:19 suggests the readers knew the writer.

• However, it is unclear today who the writer was.

1. Paul

Evidence For (internal):

a. This is the traditional view, which was accepted through the Protestant Reformation.

b. Hebrews contains some doctrinal similarities to Paul.

c. There are stylistic similarities to Paul

d. The letter reflects a Jewish Christian author who was learned in the OT and who had an effective ministry with both Jews and Gentiles

Evidence Against (internal):

a. The letter is anonymous, yet all 13 of Paul’s NT letters mention him as the author in the first sentence.

b. The writer made no claim to apostolic authority, unlike Paul. Instead, the writer appealed to eyewitnesses of Jesus’ ministry (Heb. 2:3).

c. Hebrews has a highly polished Greek, which is different from Paul's abrupt style.

d. The theological emphasis is not characteristically Pauline (such as saying Jesus was the great high priest: Heb. 4:14-16).

e. OT quotations in Hebrews are usually from the LXX, but Paul did not always follow this practice.

f. Hebrews’ place in NT seems to question authorship.

Evidence Against (external):

a. Both the Council of Hippo (AD 393) and the 3rd Council of Carthage (AD 397) listed Hebrews separately from Paul’s 13 letters.

b. During the Reformation, Calvin claimed Clement of Rome or Luke wrote Hebrews.

c. Lea says virtually no NT scholar today proposes Pauline authorship.

2. Luke

Evidence For:

Similarities of the polished Greek to Luke-Acts.

Evidence Against:

It is not likely a Gentile would write with such a Jewish outlook

This leaves Appolos, Priscilla, and Barnabas as the other main possibilities IMO.

3. Apollos (Martin Luther favored him as the author)

Evidence For:

a. He was a friend of Paul, so this would explain theological similarities.

b. He was known as an eloquent speaker (Acts 18:24-28), which would explain the polished literary style.

c. He was a Jew, an Alexandrian, learned in the OT, which would explain the use of the LXX (which was written in Alexandria).

d. He had a successful ministry to Jews.

e. He had contacts with Timothy as well as considerable influence in various churches.

Evidence Against:

a. There is no early evidence for this view.

b. If Hebrews were written by so prominent a person, why is his authorship forgotten? This same argument works against Barnabas being the author. (See below)

4. Priscilla (Adolf Harnack proposed)

Evidence For:

1. She had close ties with Paul

2. Since she was a woman it would explain the anonymity.

Evidence Against:

1. Little external evidence to support this

2. The reference to self in Heb. 11:32 with the masculine participle of the word “tell” is problematic.

5. Other Choices:

A. Barnabas

Evidence For:

a. Tertullian attributed Hebrews to him.

b. Barnabas was a Jew and a friend of Paul, so his theology must have been similar to Paul’s.

c. Barnabas could minister to both Jew and Gentile alike.

d. His Levitical background (Acts 4:36) would explain the interest in priestly functions found in Hebrews.

Evidence Against:

a. Barnabas probably was an eyewitness to, yet the author of Hebrews depended on the testimony of others (2:3).

b. It is hard to explain how the name of a leader like Barnabas could have been lost.

c. The lack of early references to him as the author is hard to explain.

B. Other minor possibilities: Clement of Rome, Silas, Acquilla, Philip, Mark, Titus

 

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Also from post #16 of the other topic:

 

 

Also the date and destination of Hebrews is important to the discussion...

II. DATE: mid to late 60s (Lea, p. 507)

1. There is no mention of the AD 70 fall of Jerusalem and temple destruction. Considering the theme of Hebrews that Jesus Christ was greater than these, their destruction would surely be mentioned had they happened already.
2. The use of present tenses in referring to ritual of sacrifice suggests it was still occurring (Heb. 7:8; 9:6-7, 9, 13; 13:10), placing it prior to AD 70.
3. The mention of Timothy (Heb. 13:23) places it in the apostolic era (if this is the Timothy who was Paul’s companion)

III. DESTINATION / SETTING (Lea, p. 505)

1. ”To the Hebrews" (1:1) shows this letter was written either to Jewish believers or else Gentile believers interested in the OT
a. There are many appeals to the OT.
b. The writer assumed his readers knew Jewish ritual.
c. He warned against a return to Judaism.

2. The letter reflects Hellenistic Judaism
a. It avoids Jewish rabbinical interpretation.
b. It refers to the tabernacle rather than Temple.
c. Its preferred use of the LXX shows Hellenism.
d. In 2:3 it seems the readers did not see or hear Jesus in His earthly ministry
e. In 6:10 they assisted poverty-stricken Christians (so, they were not the poor Palestinians)

3. In 13:24 the writer said, "those of Italy salute you.” So, was Hebrews was written to or from Italy? Either scenario could apply.

 

What do you think inChrist?

God bless,

GE

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I have moved this thread here which is a more appropriate forum.

 

God Bless. 

Nigel. 

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Golden Eagle,

That was an excellent find! Thanks for posting that.

Do you think it's possible that some of Hebrews is missing? I also have always wondered if there were NT writings after 70 AD that were destroyed. Also do you think the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD was a judgement from God? I have read some of Josephus writings on the Roman/Jewish war and some of the things he witnessed are strikingly similar to what John saw in Revelation.

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Golden Eagle,

That was an excellent find! Thanks for posting that.

Do you think it's possible that some of Hebrews is missing? I also have always wondered if there were NT writings after 70 AD that were destroyed. Also do you think the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD was a judgement from God? I have read some of Josephus writings on the Roman/Jewish war and some of the things he witnessed are strikingly similar to what John saw in Revelation.

 

 

Re: Hebrews

What did you think about the section on Paul? Who do you think could be the writer?

Why would you think that part of Hebrews is missing?

God bless,

GE

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Golden Eagle,

That was an excellent find! Thanks for posting that.

Do you think it's possible that some of Hebrews is missing? I also have always wondered if there were NT writings after 70 AD that were destroyed. Also do you think the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD was a judgement from God? I have read some of Josephus writings on the Roman/Jewish war and some of the things he witnessed are strikingly similar to what John saw in Revelation.

 

Re: The Temple

As to the desctruction of the temple in AD 70... Some would say that the Book of Revelations was written sometime bettween AD 70 and AD 95. That said no books of the BIble make clear reference to the destruction of the temple.

 

Was the temple in AD 70 a judgement from God? Well, on a practical level there had been Jewish revolts against Rome. First Jewish revolt was AD 66-73 over arguments about sacrificing to false gods in the Temple. This revolt didn't end well for the Jews. Emperor Nero sent Vespasian and Titus to end the rebellion.

 

Of interest there were occasional rebellions from AD 73 to AD 132. The Temple tax (tithe) is believed to still have been collected but the money was sent to Rome. Emperor Hadrian banned the Jewish religion which led Simon bar Cochba into guerilla warfare in AD 132. Of interest Simon bar Chocbha claimed to be the Messiah. Rome killed nearly 600,000 Jews and sold many into slavery. Rome destroyed about 50 fortresses and levelled nearly 1000 villages. The result was Jersualem became a Roman city. The pagan temple to Jupiter was erected on the Temple site. And to add insult to injury Jews were banned from entering the city.

 

The Temple was a symbol of the identity of Israel. Rome wanted no more revolts. Jesus predicted the destruction of the temple in Mark 13:1-4.

 

Mark 13:1-4

Jesus Foretells Destruction of the Temple

13 And as he came out of the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher, what wonderful stones and what wonderful buildings!” And Jesus said to him, “Do you see these great buildings? There will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

Signs of the Close of the Age

And as he sat on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign when all these things are about to be accomplished?”

Micah 3:12 also predicts the destruction Jersualem and by default of the temple.

What do you think?

God bless,

GE

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GE,

Sorry i kind of went off topic in my last post. The section on Paul makes it more clear to me that Paul wasn't the writer.

I used to think it was Possibly Luke, but after reading what you posted i don't have a clue.

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Why do I think part of Hebrews is missing? I was just thinking maybe the part about who the writer was was missing.

I defiantly have always thought the Destruction of the temple was a judgment from God, i just wanted to get your take. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me.

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This is what Josephus saw before the destruction of the temple.

"Besides these [signs], a few days after that feast, on the one- and-twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared; I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armour were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the] temple, as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence" (Jewish Wars, VI-V-3)."

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I always thought it was Paul because that is what I was taught. After reading these 2 verse i don't think Paul wrote it. Am i wrong?

"For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. (Galatians 1:12 ESV"

This is from the writer of Hebrews:

"how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. (Hebrews 2:3, 4 ESV)"

it was attested to us by those who heard.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks,

Inchrist

Hi InChrist,

 

I'm inclined to believe that Paul is the author of the epistle. There is some evidence among the early church that attributes it to Paul. However, the main reason I believe it is from Paul is the extensive knowledge of the Law that is seen in the writer, Paul being a Pharisee of Pharisees would have this knowledge. Also, some have said that the writing is very similar to that or Luke. If Paul is the author it is possible that it was dictated to Luke.There is also, I believe evidence from Peter. Peter's first epistle was addressed to the Jewish believers who scattered in the dispersion. I believe his second epistle was also written to Jewish believers, he says,

 

KJV  2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: (2Pe 3:1-2 KJV)

 

It seems to me that this is a second epistle to the Jewish believers. Consider Peter's, he wants them to remember the words of the prophets. The Gentiles didn't study the words of the prophets, however, the Jews did. Having said that consider what he says later in the letter,

 

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (2Pe 3:13-16 KJV)

 

Now, this doesn't prove that Peter is referring to the epistle to the Hebrews but I do believe it is a possibility. After all Hebrews is addressed specifically to the Jewish believers.

 

Given the evidence I believe there is ample evidence to suggest that Paul is the author of the epistle.

 

 

Concerning the specific passage, that was a concern of mine at first also. He says it was first attested to us by them that heard, remember the when Paul first heard the Gospel he was a Pharisee and persecuted the church,so it was first attested to to him from those who had heard the apostles. I believe by "us" he means his Jewish brethren.

 

 

I hope this helps.

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