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Who wrote Hebrews?

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I always thought it was Paul because that is what I was taught. After reading these 2 verse i don't think Paul wrote it. Am i wrong?

"For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. (Galatians 1:12 ESV"

This is from the writer of Hebrews:

"how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. (Hebrews 2:3, 4 ESV)"

it was attested to us by those who heard.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks,

Inchrist

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Hi, Inchrist! We met a couple of nights ago in the chat room. I'm glad you brought this topic for discussion. This could be a good learning experience for both of us. I'm anxious for some of our scholars opinions and input. During the Jesus People Movement of the late 60s/early 70s, I studied under a British teacher of the Word, who had a Doctorate in Divinity. He preferred the Scofield Reference Bible, Authorized King James Version. Each book had an introduction, (synopsis) with annotations, subject chain references, foot notes and some word changes, for clarification. Also each book OT and NT has the author of each book and dated with the year it was written... 

 

Anyway, I copied this out of the introduction to Hebrews, word for word and just as is. I don't have a scanner, so I did it the hard way. It's a commentary and some may disagree with this. That's perfectly alright with me... I didn't write it! LOL I don't have a set opinion about it either. I'd enjoy some other points of view, myself. I'm interested in learning too and certainly not above correction. And as mentioned this is C.I. Scofield, D.D. Oxford University 1969 Edition. The print is small. Enlarge the screen if necessary. BTW, my biblical mentor didn't agree on a few topics Scofield had to say in his commentaries. And he wasn't opposed to other translations of the Word of God. 

God bless  you!

David/BeauJangles

 

 

THE EPISTLE TO THE HEBREWS is an anonymous book. It's authorship has been debated since post-apostolic days. In certain places its language is like Paul's and, on account of the personal reference to Timothy in 13:23, some scholars have attributed the letter to Paul. Although there is no conclusive proof of authorship, Hebrews, as a part of Scripture, speaks with divine authority.  The letter was composed prior to the destruction of Jerusalem, since it was evident the Temple was still standing when Hebrews was written (cp. 10:11).

        The occasion of the Epistle was the need of special exhortation for Hebrew readers who had professed Jesus as the Messiah, some of whom were wavering in their attitude. Hence, the exhortation is to "hold fast" (3:6) and to "go on to maturity" (6:1, lit.). 

       The purpose of the book, then, was (1) to confirm Jewish Christians by showing that O.T. Judaism had come to an end through the fulfillment by Christ of the whole purpose of the law; (2) to warn some who had identified themselves as Christians against (a) falling back into Judaism where the pre-eminence of Jesus Christ. The key word is "better" (1:4; 6:9; 7:7,19,22; 8:6; 9:23; 10:34; 11:16,35,40; 12:24) Hebrews contains a series of contrasts between the good things of Judaism and the better things of Christ. Christ is better than angels, than Moses, than Joshua, than Aaron; and  the New Covenant (8:7-13) is better than the Mosaic Covenant (see Ex.19-5 note).

       More fully than any N.T. writing, Hebrews reveals the present high-priestly ministry of the Man in the glory, the Lord Jesus Christ. The Epistle may be divided as follows: Introduction, 1:1-3 1. Christ as a Person Superior to All Other Persons, 1:4-4:16. 2. The Pre-eminence and Finality of the Priesthood of Christ, 5:1-10:18 3. The Life of Faith, 10:19. Conclusion, 13:20-25. Author: Unknown Date of writing: c. A.D. 68  

 

                                    

      

      

  



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Im not a scholar sorry BeauJangles, A preacher/friend said Paul only wrote Romans through Philemon.

In one of my bibles it give several possible authors.

 

Martin Luther suggest Apollos

Tertullian ( 150A.D. ) suggest Barnabus

some say Priscilla

some say Phillip

then it says there is a consensus for Paul.

 

I too would like to see if this has or can be narrowed down or if the consensus is correct.



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In my opinion, the fact that it is anonymous, is enough to say with some authority, that we do not know. Unless some new evidence comes to light, it seems to me, that too much speculation is a bit of a waste of time. Scholars have mused and argued for centuries about it and there is no consensus. Is there something I can add, that has not already been thought of and expressed? I doubt it, and I certainly lack any qualifications to have much of an opinion.

 

As has been noted, there are times when it seems a bit Pauline, but other times it does not. I would not be surprised if it was discovered that the writer was an associate of Paul's, or at least very familiar with his teachings. Clearly the writer, was familiar with the Hebrew scriptures, and might well have been a pharisee himself.

 

In any case, I am glad the book has been preserved, and if I never know who wrote it, it's message(s) are just as valid and insightful. I am just as happy to say: "The author of the book of Hebrews wrote . . ." as I would be to say: "As Paul wrote in the book of Hebrews . . . "



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coheir and Omegaman, thanks guys, for you thoughts and contributions! This brings some interesting things to light. Also good job in setting the example of how a biblical discussion can take place without dogmatic disputation. Well done, gentlemen! Now ladies, there's a lot of brilliant Worthy Women out there... I know a lot of you by your user names too! Your input is important as well. Shy guys are still welcome also. Anybody else?

God bless you!

David/BeauJangles



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Hey Beaujangles,

I'm very interested in this topic to, and would love to here some of the scholars takes as well. Thank you for taking the time to copy all of that, i enjoyed reading it. God Bless you Brother!

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Thanks coheir and omega, your input on this thread is appreciated!

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I always thought it was Paul because that is what I was taught. After reading these 2 verse i don't think Paul wrote it. Am i wrong?

"For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. (Galatians 1:12 ESV"

This is from the writer of Hebrews:

"how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. (Hebrews 2:3, 4 ESV)"

it was attested to us by those who heard.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks,

Inchrist

 

Some Christian scholars of history consider the Book of Hebrews written by Apostle Paul through Luke's penmanship. Their reasoning was because of some of the Greek terms used point to Luke since he was doctor.

 

At some point Apostle Paul's eyesight must have failed him:

 

Gal 6:11
11    Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand.
(KJV)

 

 

That's how it could be that Paul was dictating to Luke in writing the Book of Hebrews.



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I always thought it was Paul because that is what I was taught. After reading these 2 verse i don't think Paul wrote it. Am i wrong?

"For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. (Galatians 1:12 ESV"

This is from the writer of Hebrews:

"how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. (Hebrews 2:3, 4 ESV)"

it was attested to us by those who heard.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks,

Inchrist

 

Some Christian scholars of history consider the Book of Hebrews written by Apostle Paul through Luke's penmanship. Their reasoning was because of some of the Greek terms used point to Luke since he was doctor.

 

At some point Apostle Paul's eyesight must have failed him:

 

Gal 6:11
11    Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand.
(KJV)

 

 

That's how it could be that Paul was dictating to Luke in writing the Book of Hebrews.

 

I can certainly see how this could be what happened.  



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I always thought it was Paul because that is what I was taught. After reading these 2 verse i don't think Paul wrote it. Am i wrong?

"For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. (Galatians 1:12 ESV"

This is from the writer of Hebrews:

"how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. (Hebrews 2:3, 4 ESV)"

it was attested to us by those who heard.

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks,

Inchrist

 

Some Christian scholars of history consider the Book of Hebrews written by Apostle Paul through Luke's penmanship. Their reasoning was because of some of the Greek terms used point to Luke since he was doctor.

 

At some point Apostle Paul's eyesight must have failed him:

 

Gal 6:11
11    Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand.
(KJV)

 

 

That's how it could be that Paul was dictating to Luke in writing the Book of Hebrews.

 

 

I tend to think that Paul wrote the book of Hebrews. Luke might have been the scribe, so I agree with the basic premise.

 

I am too much of a stickler for detail.

 

Paul would have had great expertise in Greek. Tarsus, where Paul grew up, was a major center of Greek learning, and a major center of Greek philosophy schools Paul illustrates a knowledge of Greek philosophy. So, Paul would not have needed anyone to enhance his knowledge of Greek.  

 

On the other hand, doctors in those days, were not the education level we think of today. In Roman culture, doctors were not high in social status either. Most Greek doctors would have been educated in Tarsus, the same area as Paul/Saul grew up. But there was no required formal education, no certification, etc. Anyone could simply call themselves a physician.  

 

So, I agree with the premise as highly possible, but not with the reasoning.



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I always thought it was Luke.....  just seemed like his style to me but most people I know didn't agree.  I never thought that maybe he wrote it as a scribe for Paul.



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Thanks to all for participating on this topic... It was good to have a comparative on the subject. God bless! David/BeauJangles



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Thanks all!

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My bible said it doesn't appear to be Paul because the writer refers to Timothy as a brother, not as his "Son" as Paul does in his letters.

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I'm not sure who--but I've come to the conclusion that it was probably an apostle or a close associate of at least one apostle (kinda like Mark) because "early Christians originally accepted all the NT books to be inspired by God because they contained teaching from an official apostle."

 

 

--There's a lady response for ya Beau (David). haha


Edited by Bethany, 30 May 2014 - 07:44 PM.


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We are not told for sure who penned the Book of Hebrews, but God wrote it. 

 

Just as man uses a pen as a tool to place ink on a page,

God uses man as a tool to write His words.



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Amen ncn!

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Thanks Bethany

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If not Paul, Barnabas us commonly thought as a popular option.  I've never heard the Paul thru Luke.  I'm not sure how much I like this as it is thought that many of Paul's letter's are thought to have gone thru a secretary of sorts, and that did not seem to dramatically cause as noticeable distinctions in writing styles.


Edited by Trinitron, 01 June 2014 - 02:34 PM.


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The Holy Spirit is the only author that matters




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