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God is backing away

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I have heard that the world is doing what they want and not what God wants and trying to take God out. So I heard that means that God is backing away or the holy spirit is lifting. If that is true the world will get worse and worse. Then why is God here now, if nobody wants him here, why is her here. If holy spirit is lifting and God is backing away and leaving. Where does that leave us. Maybe you guys can explain it to me better.



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because I want him here and as long as one of us is here.....  I think he will be here even if the rest of the whole world goes to hell.



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God certainly seems to leave the places where he is not wanted. He often removes his spirit of protection from societies that do not want to worship him.



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God certainly seems to leave the places where he is not wanted. He often removes his spirit of protection from societies that do not want to worship him.

 

Will that continue, If so then he'll leave. What will happen to us.



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God certainly seems to leave the places where he is not wanted. He often removes his spirit of protection from societies that do not want to worship him.

 

Will that continue, If so then he'll leave.What will happen to us.

 

 

He doesn't leave altogether and he does not desert his children, but you may find that things will become more difficult for you and you may feel as if you have been abandoned. Have faith because God does not abandon his own and anything you lose in this life, you will be greatly recompensed for in the next.



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because I want him here and as long as one of us is here.....  I think he will be here even if the rest of the whole world goes to hell.

 

He never forsakes completely.



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Genesis 18:22 Then the men turned away from there and went toward Sodom, while Abraham was still standing before the Lord. 23 Abraham came near and said, “Will You indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 Suppose there are fifty righteous within the city; will You indeed sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous who are in it? 25 Far be it from You to do such a thing, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous and the wicked are treated alike. Far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth deal justly?” 26 So the Lord said, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare the whole place on their account.” 27 And Abraham replied, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord, although I am but dust and ashes. 28 Suppose the fifty righteous are lacking five, will You destroy the whole city because of five?” And He said, “I will not destroy it if I find forty-five there.” 29 He spoke to Him yet again and said, “Suppose forty are found there?” And He said, “I will not do it on account of the forty.” 30 Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak; suppose thirty are found there?” And He said, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.” 31 And he said, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord; suppose twenty are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the twenty.” 32 Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak only this once; suppose ten are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the ten.”

 

So, had there been 10 righteous people in the city of Sodom, God would not have destroyed the city for the sake of the 10. As it turned out, only Lot and his small family were found to be righteous. Not 10 people, so Lot asked God to preserve a city that he wanted to go live in. God agreed to preserve a small city nearby. So, God led Lot and his family out of Sodom, to preserve them.

 

In the NT, God promised He would not leave us or forsake us.

 

2 Cor 4:6 For God, who said, “Light shall shine out of darkness,” is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, so that the surpassing greatness of the power will be of God and not from ourselves; we are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not despairing; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; 10 always carrying about in the body the dying of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. 11 For we who live are constantly being delivered over to death for Jesus’ sake, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh.

 

 

Even in difficulties, God is always with us, making sure whatever we go thru, we are not crushed, destroyed, despairing. And if and when He must judge and destroy, He will lead us out to safety. (That is what the rapture will be about).  As long as there are born again believers in Jesus on earth, the Holy Spirit is there with them



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I have heard that the world is doing what they want and not what God wants and trying to take God out. So I heard that means that God is backing away or the holy spirit is lifting. If that is true the world will get worse and worse. Then why is God here now, if nobody wants him here, why is her here. If holy spirit is lifting and God is backing away and leaving. Where does that leave us. Maybe you guys can explain it to me better.

 

 

No, that is not happening.  Things will get worse, but that is in accordance with Biblical prophecy, so as things moves along, the Bible actually says to look up because our redemption

is getting closer. (Luke 21:28)

 

The fall of Jerusalem appears to be foretold in this chapter as well (AD70) but other verses seem to include more then that single event.

 

At any rate, the Holy Spirit has not left and that teaching you speak of would not be correct if that is, in fact, what is being taught



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I havent heard of God backing off or his spirit lifting but if that happens its only because he is not welcomed there. See God is a gentlemen he could easily fill every place and person with his spirit and could force us to love him, but no he waits for permission and then enters. He never would fully leave or else death would be happening to everyone within five minutes.



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God is absent in this world and that's not because He wants to be but humans chose to be apart from Him when Adam and Eve sinned.

 

Just look at this world how mankind thinks it doesn't need God and that's why there is suffering, moral decay, and misery this is a planet without God.

But he comes into the lives of those who recieve Him and he will allow this world to get worse and allow the Devil to rule over it till His return when He fixes everything we have ruin.

But He is by no means abandoning those who receive Him.



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I havent heard of God backing off or his spirit lifting but if that happens its only because he is not welcomed there. See God is a gentlemen he could easily fill every place and person with his spirit and could force us to love him, but no he waits for permission and then enters. He never would fully leave or else death would be happening to everyone within five minutes.

 

Somebody else said that 'God is a gentlemen'. I forget who.



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I have heard that the world is doing what they want and not what God wants and trying to take God out. So I heard that means that God is backing away or the holy spirit is lifting. If that is true the world will get worse and worse. Then why is God here now, if nobody wants him here, why is her here. If holy spirit is lifting and God is backing away and leaving. Where does that leave us. Maybe you guys can explain it to me better.

 
I think you have been misled.  God is not "backing away" in any form.  If He was, than He would not be God, for God is true to His word.
 
Hebrews 13:5

Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”


Yes, the world will get worse, but not because of God backing away, but because man has closed his heart to God. It is important to learn the difference for when the time comes when it gets really bad, you may then questions God's love to you if you accept He has left you. Nowhere in scripture does He say He will remove His love from us, take back His Spirit or turn His back on His children. Don't swallow a lie.

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Hi tigger398,

 

We also know that this world is upheld by the power of His word.

 

`God,......has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom He made the worlds; ......& upholding all things by the word of His power,...` (Heb. 1: 1 & 2)

 

God is also `herding the heathen folk,` into great confederacies & then the final Global Government where man thinks he can solve the world`s problems till God brings the final judgment upon them. (Joel 3: 3 Knox)

 

God is upholding this earth plus bringing about His plans to bring all authority under Christ. Man`s futile plans have to be shown to be futile otherwise God would not be just.

 

 

Keep trusting our precious Saviour for `though we walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for Thou art with me.` (Ps. 23: 4)



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because I want him here and as long as one of us is here.....  I think he will be here even if the rest of the whole world goes to hell.

I believe anyone of us who wants  Him here He will remain with  us.  Remember one of us plus God makes a majority.



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Tigger, you have heard wrong.  God will never ever desert us or leave us or let us down or forsake us.  Nothing can ever separate us from His love.  His Spirit will never leave anyone who wants Him.  The Holy Spirit may not be working in some people the way He did years ago, but perhaps they have lost their first love.  It is never God's fault.  

Hollywood and movies have been an evil influence making people think that everyone has sick morals.  That may be true in the pretend world of movies and in LA, San Francisco and some large cities but there are still plenty of people who live for God.  Some of the older denominations are falling away from believing the Bible but some are growing that still believe and people are still being saved and filled with the Holy Spirit.  At the end of Mathew and Mark Jesus said, and Lo I am with you always, even unto the end of the age.  That is His promise.

Love you,

Willa



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You may have an inverted view of the Kingdom. Jesus will never leave his Kingdom empty of the same power and presence He occupied during His earthly ministry. Jesus promised His people, "lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen" (Mat. 28:20).

 

The people telling you that God is backing away don't know what they are talking about.

 

Let me ask you a crazy theological question: if the Church is the Body of Christ in the earth today (1 Cor. 12:27), how can God distance Himself from His own body? As an ambassador of heaven, I can tell you that God hasn't left or pulled back. We can individually and collectively be as close to God as we want to be.



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Stand

 

Hear the word of the LORD, you who tremble at his word: "Your own people who hate you, and exclude you because of my name, have said, 'Let the LORD be glorified, that we may see your joy!' Yet they will be put to shame. Isaiah 66:5 (NIV)
 

Fast

 

For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. Isaiah 57:15

 

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I have heard that the world is doing what they want and not what God wants and trying to take God out.

 

So I heard that means that God is backing away or the holy spirit is lifting.

 

If that is true the world will get worse and worse.

 

Then why is God here now, if nobody wants him here, why is He here.

 

If holy spirit is lifting and God is backing away and leaving.

 

Where does that leave us.

 

Maybe you guys can explain it to me better.

 

:thumbsup:

 

The World Will Get Worse And Worse

 

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

 

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved:

 

but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Matthew 24:21-22

 

And God Will Get

 

So be truly glad.

 

There is wonderful joy ahead, even though you have to endure many trials for a little while.

 

These trials will show that your faith is genuine.

 

It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold — though your faith is far more precious than mere gold.

 

So when your faith remains strong through many trials,

 

it will bring you much praise and glory and honor on the day when Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world. 1 Peter 1:6-7

 

The Glory

 

“Because heloves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.

 

He will call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble,

 

I will deliver him and honor him. Psalms 91:14-15 (NIV)

 

Glory

 

I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 42:8

 

Amen~!

 

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Galatians 4:6



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I also feel like God is backing off from America, but just look at what we (as a nation) are doing. I leave too if I feel unwanted. The Holy Spirit isn't gone, because there are still many of us who want Him. But I also think that God is needed more in the Mid East, Russia, Ukraine, and those places. Our world is in worse condition now than it has been in since the 1960's. If we would all turn more to God, and away from sin, we'd see the moving of God's Holy Spirit more.






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