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1 Peter 4:10

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Hi.   "As each one has recieved a special gift, employ it in serving one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God." 

 

What are all these gifts and why are they to be used in serving one another?  Can you come up with examples as how to they are used to serve one another?  I thought they were supposed to be used to glorify God and maybe bring in the lost.  I understand how the gift of encouragement serves one another.  Maybe the gift of helps.  Perhaps all these gifts help strengthen eachother so we can continue to grow in the grace and love of God, thus bringing greater glory to God in the world?  Just typing as my mind is hashing this out. 



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Hi.   "As each one has recieved a special gift, employ it in serving one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God." 

 

What are all these gifts and why are they to be used in serving one another?  Can you come up with examples as how to they are used to serve one another?  I thought they were supposed to be used to glorify God and maybe bring in the lost.  I understand how the gift of encouragement serves one another.  Maybe the gift of helps.  Perhaps all these gifts help strengthen each other so we can continue to grow in the grace and love of God, thus bringing greater glory to God in the world?  Just typing as my mind is hashing this out. 

 

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God's

 

For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13

 

Work

 

But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

 

For the body is not one member, but many.

 

If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

 

And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

 

If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?

 

But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.

 

And if they were all one member, where were the body?

 

But now are they many members, yet but one body.

 

And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

 

Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:

 

And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.

 

For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked:

 

That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.

 

And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 1 Corinthians 12:11-26

 

Amen~!

 

Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality.
Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.
Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.
Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
Romans 12:13-16



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:mgcheerful: :thumbsup: "Love one another as I have Loved you".



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I think it could be argued that serving one another is gloryfying God. Indeed if one reads verse 11 then it says if we use the gifts the way it is intended then it brings glory to God. Jesus was a perfect example of servant who served others.



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Blessings

     I believe,at this time & in context ,that Peter may have been specifically speaking of the laying on of hands or baptism as ref in Acts8:17,9:6  & Tim 4:14.......and in all things we do ,it should always result in giving God the Glory!

    The manifold of Grace are a variety of diversified gifts that have manifested & used for the good of the whole church......ministering to one another as "good stewards"as Jesus our "Good Shepherd" with love


 

1 Corinthians 12:4-11

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4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b] 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

   These are the gifts I believe we are discussing .....Welcome to Worthy Pamela!        With love-in Christ,Kwik



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The capacity for loving others is incidental to loving God. The Baptism of Jesus is for making complete the Christian who has it in his heart to be conformed to Him. It is the venue for the revealing of the glory of God per John 17.. 



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God has also given us gifts of pastors, evangelists, missionaries, teachers, etc who are people.  They use their spiritual grace and power gifts to serve us in the church.  

I consider hospitality a gift as well. I know a guy who opens his home once a week to his old drinking buddies.  No alcohol, just good clean fun as only Christians can have.  He is a leader by nature and gift, and having them for barbecues and such presents a way to witness to them with a clean mouth and a changed life.      

We used to have summer parties in our youth group in which we would take inner tubes upstream to a warm river and float down to a park.  There we would sing old gospel songs around a campfire, roast hot dogs and marshmallows and enjoy Christian fellowship.  50 years later we still remember those as some of the good memories that drew us back to Christ.  People who can organize these and supervise them are exercising their gifts for serving the church; the youth pastor with his brief exhortation, teaching and invitation to receive Christ also exercised his gifts.  All of these people worked together to accomplish God's purposes.  Some plant, some water, but God gives the growth. 

Helping others with our natural talents and gifts is another way of serving Christ.  A mechanic who repairs cars for the poor for only the cost of parts is also serving with the gift of helps.  There are countless ways to minister to the church and to open doors to spread the truth of the Gospel---Even operating a news cast in Israel.

These are some of the good works that God has created for us to walk therein.  We use the gifts of the Spirit and talents God has given us to serve Him in unique ways tailored  just for us.  And each of us is needed, working together in love, to accomplish God's purposes on earth.  By this all men shall know you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.  John 13:35 NKJV



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Good posts, thankyou.  Feel free to post more if you got them.  : )



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God has also given us gifts of pastors, evangelists, missionaries, teachers, etc who are people.  They use their spiritual grace and power gifts to serve us in the church.  

 

They, however, are administrative gifts to be distinguished from as prophecy, healing, tongues,et al.

 

I consider hospitality a gift as well. I know a guy who opens his home once a week to his old drinking buddies.  No alcohol, just good clean fun as only Christians can have.  He is a leader by nature and gift, and having them for barbecues and such presents a way to witness to them with a clean mouth and a changed life.      

We used to have summer parties in our youth group in which we would take inner tubes upstream to a warm river and float down to a park.  There we would sing old gospel songs around a campfire, roast hot dogs and marshmallows and enjoy Christian fellowship.  50 years later we still remember those as some of the good memories that drew us back to Christ.  People who can organize these and supervise them are exercising their gifts for serving the church; the youth pastor with his brief exhortation, teaching and invitation to receive Christ also exercised his gifts.  All of these people worked together to accomplish God's purposes.  Some plant, some water, but God gives the growth. 

Helping others with our natural talents and gifts is another way of serving Christ.  A mechanic who repairs cars for the poor for only the cost of parts is also serving with the gift of helps.  There are countless ways to minister to the church and to open doors to spread the truth of the Gospel---Even operating a news cast in Israel.

These are some of the good works that God has created for us to walk therein.  We use the gifts of the Spirit and talents God has given us to serve Him in unique ways tailored  just for us.  And each of us is needed, working together in love, to accomplish God's purposes on earth.  By this all men shall know you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.  John 13:35 NKJV.

 

Indeed, we all should follow such examples if the "talent" is a gift of the Holy Spirit and not of ourselves. 


Edited by Cross Reference, 20 June 2014 - 03:44 PM.


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8)    But above all things have fervent love among you, for love shall cover the multitude of sins.

9)    Be ye harberous one to another, without grudging.

10)  Let every man as he hath received the gift, minister the same one to another, as good disposers of the manifold grace of God.

I Peter 4:8-10

 

IMO the gift is the grace of God thru Christ Jesus:

15)  But yet the gift is not so as is the offense: for if through the offense of that one, many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace which is by one man Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

Romans 5:15

If one reads the following verses of what remains in Romans 5, it gives a wonderful picture of this gift of Grace.

 

This gift could also be called love as Peter describes in I Peter 4:8, for even Solomon mentions that love covers all sins, Proverbs 10:12.   Greater love than this hath no man, when any man bestoweth His life for His friends.  John 15:13  Jesus Christ the Love, that covered everyone of us sinners and our wicked sins.  This is the kind of  love that John calls us too      I John 3:16-18. 



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8)    But above all things have fervent love among you, for love shall cover the multitude of sins.

9)    Be ye harberous one to another, without grudging.

10)  Let every man as he hath received the gift, minister the same one to another, as good disposers of the manifold grace of God.

I Peter 4:8-10

 

IMO the gift is the grace of God thru Christ Jesus:

15)  But yet the gift is not so as is the offense: for if through the offense of that one, many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace which is by one man Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

Romans 5:15

If one reads the following verses of what remains in Romans 5, it gives a wonderful picture of this gift of Grace.

 

This gift could also be called love as Peter describes in I Peter 4:8, for even Solomon mentions that love covers all sins, Proverbs 10:12.   Greater love than this hath no man, when any man bestoweth His life for His friends.  John 15:13  Jesus Christ the Love, that covered everyone of us sinners and our wicked sins.  This is the kind of  love that John calls us too      I John 3:16-18. 

the gift is by grace;  by one man__ words do mean something. . . ;) A tiny prep. can change the whole dynamic of a sentence.


Edited by Cross Reference, 22 June 2014 - 05:53 AM.


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The capacity for loving others is incidental to loving God. The Baptism of Jesus is for making complete the Christian who has it in his heart to be conformed to Him. It is the venue for the revealing of the glory of God per John 17.. 

John 17:10  And all "Mine(Jesus) are Yours(Heavenly Fathers), and Yours(Our Father) are Mine;(Jesus') and "I(Jesus) AM GLORIFIED IN THEM."(us) 

John 17:22  And the "GLORY" which You(Father) gave Me(Jesus) "I HAVE GIVEN THEM;" that "they(us) may be one, even as We are are one."

John 17:23  I(Jesus) in them,(us) and thou(Heavenly Father) in Me,(Jesus) that they(us) may be made "perfect in one;" and that the world may know that thou(Heavenly Father) has "sent Me,"(Jesus) and has loved them,(us) as Thou(Father) hast loved Me.(Jesus)

John 17:24  Father, I will that they(us) also, whom Thou hast given Me, be with Me where I am; that "THEY(us) MAY BEHOLD MY GLORY," which thou(Father) hast given Me: for thou(Father) loved Me(Jesus) before the foundation of the world. 



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Uh, to answer the OP here (and in effect, all the threads regarding spiritual gifts)...

 

to understand the gifts...

 

we must first understand that the teachings of the Church for the last 1700 years have been based on a huge lie (that there is a difference between clergy and laity) rather than what the Bible teaches that all believers in Jesus Christ are priests, children of God, slaves to the Master.

 

1 Peter 2:3-9 (NIV)
3 now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
4 As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by men but chosen by God and precious to him—
5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
6 For in Scripture it says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”
7 Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone,”
8 and, “A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

 

Revelation 1:6 (NIV)
6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

 

Revelation 5:10 (NIV)
10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”

 

And spiritual gifts are the equipping of us by the LORD to fulfill our calling from the LORD into whatever priestly ministry he has ordained for each one of us.

 

Not all are called to preach / teach, there are many callings all in the overall connected amalgamated effort to evangelize the lost in every generation.

 

1 Corinthians 12 (NIV)
1 Now about spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be ignorant.
2 You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols.
3 Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord.
6 There are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men.
7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.
8 To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit,
9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit,
10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.
11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.
12 The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ.
13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
14 Now the body is not made up of one part but of many.
15 If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body.
16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body.
17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be?
18 But in fact God has arranged the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be.
19 If they were all one part, where would the body be?
20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.
21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!”
22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable,
23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty,
24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has combined the members of the body and has given greater honor to the parts that lacked it,
25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other.
26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.
27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.
28 And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?
30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?
31 But eagerly desire the greater gifts.

 

Greater gifts not to puff yourself up but to do greater things for the LORD our Master.

 



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I am not a stranger to the operational supernatural type gifts of the Holy Spirit, but I do not think they are always practical.   Plenty of people operate in them and 'have not love', at least in my neck of the woods.  I don't even go to that kind of church anymore, tho the officers in the Salvation Army have been 'called' out of an aog to serve in the SA instead, and the chaplain wants that kind of stuff, but God is just not making it happen, at least at this point.  I wouldnt mind it either, but I know the Lord has me there now, so...  So anyway, their are other types of gifts that are not Holy Spirit supernatural(or whatever you want to call it) and I was primarily wondering about those tho.  Oh heck yes, prophesy can be VERY edifying, especially when someone has it just for you!!  (people you know and trust who arent full of it). 



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There are gifts used to 'employ' in serving others.  You cannot 'employ' the gifts of the Holy Spririt. The Holy Spirit does that.  I believe this to mean other gifts, which is what I was talking about in the first place.  I know there are spiritual gifts assessments out there, and I heard that this has greatly expanded from the original listing.?  I did take a shortened version once.  It seemed quite accurate.



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Hi.   "As each one has recieved a special gift, employ it in serving one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God." 
 
What are all these gifts and why are they to be used in serving one another?  Can you come up with examples as how to they are used to serve one another?  I thought they were supposed to be used to glorify God and maybe bring in the lost.  I understand how the gift of encouragement serves one another.  Maybe the gift of helps.  Perhaps all these gifts help strengthen eachother so we can continue to grow in the grace and love of God, thus bringing greater glory to God in the world?  Just typing as my mind is hashing this out.

Let every man as he hath received the gift, minister the same one to another, as good disposers of the manifold grace of God.

Hi Pamela,
I think mostly everyone was spot on in their answers but this is a great question to unite upon so I'll add my amen. The gifts are to be used as an extension of God's love. And His love both unite us closer to His Heart and at the same time the Body of Christ, which is of course the Church. I believe God loves to shower His Children with gifts, as Jesus said:

“So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

If we look all the gifts are unified together by the same Spirit who works in us and empowers us to do work of God amongst us and in the world. As has been already mention 1 Corinthians 12 shows us this:

There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all

Then he mentions them one by one:

1. for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit,
2. to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,
3. to another faith by the same Spirit,
4. to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit,
5. to another the working of miracles,
6. to another prophecy,
7. to another discerning of spirits,
8 to another different kinds of tongues,
9 to another the interpretation of tongues.

1Corinthian 12:11
But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

But if the Spirit gives these to us to edify the Body of Christ (the Church)and God is One then what is this supposed to produce among the member of that Body but the fruit of the Holy Spirit in us.

But the fruit of the Spirit is:
1. love,
2. joy,
3. peace,
4. patience,
5. kindness,
6. goodness,
7. faithfulness,
8. gentleness,
9. self-control.

Against such there is no law.
And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

So 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit and 9 fruits of the Holy Spirit - coincidence?
Paul also warns us to walk in the Spirit and not become conceited - beware the leaven of the Pharisees and fleshly pride creeping back in that will quench the Holy Spirit and maim us in our walk in the Spirit. It's an excellent health check on our walk in Christ. The fruit of the Holy Spirit then is imparting into us His own divine nature, joining our personality to the heart of God, which I believe further encourages us to disavow ourselves from our former selfish nature as we desire more and more the love of God and the new nature He is putting into us, as we put on Christ, or in a poetic manner of speaking, become clothed in the wedding garment of Christ, since the Church is the betrothed.

So
1. The Word of Wisdom: Solomon was known to have this gift and all the earth sought the presence of Solomon to hear his wisdom, which God had put in his heart. So wisdom is acutely logical and intelligent to even men who do not know God but the end of this gift speaks to the truth of God while at the same time crushing falsehoods which prevent others from coming to the knowledge of Christ. With wisdom God created the universe and secular scientists for millennia are still only ankle deep in the ocean depth of that wisdom still. Jesus told us to settle it in our hearts not to meditate beforehand on what we would answer if we are walking in the Spirit and falsely accused by the enemies of Christ when He said: "for I will give you a mouth and wisdom which all your adversaries will not be able to contradict or resist - Luke 21:15. Wisdom exposes and dismantles all arguments against the Gospel of Salvation for “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.” Isaiah 29:14 & 1 Corinthians 1:19. So if the gates of hell cannot stand against the Church then certainly nothing in the crafty ways of man can stand against God's wisdom. But wisdom also edifies the Body also as Paul says

These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. - 1Corinthians 2:13
to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places - Ephesians 3:10
Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. - Col 1:28

So wisdom edifies the Church, builds the case for God's message to thrive bringing others to Christ and trumps the world's wisdom and all that sets out to lead others astray.

2. The Word of knowledge imparts to us Godly insight by the supernatural working of the Holy Spirit in you. Paul was planning his mission trip into Asia but the Holy Spirit directed him to Macedonia. St. Patrick was quite content to stay home after escaping into Ireland until the Holy Spirit gave him the word of knowledge that the Irish longed to get him back and evangelize them and teach them about Christ. The end result was a spreading of God's love in God's perfect timing.

3. to another faith by the same Spirit,
4. to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit,
5. to another the working of miracles,
6. to another prophecy,
7. to another discerning of spirits,
8 to another different kinds of tongues,
9 to another the interpretation of tongues.


I'm going to have to end here since I'm out of time

May God Bless, Pat

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I was going to add more on the other gifts but wanted to provide more time in case anyone wanted to respond - know the post is long.
May the Lord Bless
In Christ, Pat

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Anytime you go about doing good, you are glorifying God. For instance, how did Jesus glorify God? He went about doing good, preaching and healing and keeping his Father's commandments. People here have listed the gifts of the spirit, so I don't need to repeat those, but all of us have one gift or more that we can use. God blesses His children through others, which is why we have these gifts. But also remember, that in our quest to be like our Father in heaven (Matt 5:48), we learn a great deal as we use these gifts for others. If we are going to be perfect like our Father, we need to know how to use the gifts we have and how to bless others unselfishly. Doing this glorifies God because others see your faith, your patience, and they believe in God.






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