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Does God Need US To Do His Will

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I've been wondering for sometime now about this. If God calls on you to help someone and you refuse too. Will that person go without help? Or would God find another way to see that the person gets the help they need?


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    I really enjoy discussing the Bible. There is so much to learn and so much to share.

    I am led to reach my hand out, in love, to those in need.

I don't think anyone can answer this question, unless their answer is something vague like "sometimes".  The question encompasses to many variables to even have a focus.


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Yes, but it is a good question. But now that I think about it. I think God would make a way for his will to be done.


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    I really enjoy discussing the Bible. There is so much to learn and so much to share.

    I am led to reach my hand out, in love, to those in need.

The question I am considering is what His will in the circumstance is.  Is it His will to teach you about obedience or is it His will to help the person or is it both?   If it is to teach one obedience, than what one does for another may not be His focus or really matter.  If it is to help someone in need, He will find another way.  If it is both, His will will still be done, even if both are not completed for a long time.


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The question I am considering is what His will in the circumstance is.  Is it His will to teach you about obedience or is it His will to help the person or is it both?   If it is to teach one obedience, than what one does for another may not be His focus or really matter.  If it is to help someone in need, He will find another way.  If it is both, His will will still be done, even if both are not completed for a long time.

I think I was thinking of helping someone in need.


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So around 14 years ago I was sitting in jail on my bunk minding my own business. I began to have thoughts like what good is my life doing, and what good am I doing in the world. The answer was none. I was totaly corrupt and wicked. I was full of the devil. After pondering these questions only for a few moments I felt a weight, a very heavy burden. I knew I was powerless to change and suddenly I did not want to be wicked anymore. Deep down I wanted to leave a mark on the world for good. This is when I first knew God was there. I began crying like a little baby right in front of a whole tank of grown men, which crying isnt really my style. I literaly was so weighed down I fell of my bunk and sat on the floor and I was rocking back and forth. As I looked up to where I felt His presence I said over and over... I'll be good, I'll be good. If you are not savvy on jail house rules, you stick to your own race. I am white. The biggest black guy in there which is about three of me( and I am a good sized fella) spoke up for me. Someone asked whats he doing, and he spoke up and said praying man, and anyone that messes with him is going to answer to me. I could hear all this going on but I didnt care, I had for the first time in my life met God. God lifted this weight off me and I felt so much better. Oh what a relief it was. No man preached to me. No person helped me. And God had sent many many people before this not only in jail but in the free world too to declare the good news to me. Until God came to me my heart was stone. I was in desperate need and God helped me. God truly does not need anyones help. Hemade the heavens and the earth. He breathed the breath of life into adams nostrils and he became a living soul. Really, what can we do for Him? Besides just being available for Him to use us as a vessel? Truely, God dose not need our help.
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LadyKay, It is to our detriment, if we refuse to assist, counsel, witness, pray or in other words, help someone, if you feel or sense God is leading or impressing on you to reach out to a person in Christ. Especially if you are asked to... I do believe the Lord will select perhaps a more compassionate heart to help someone in need, and we can lose out on a blessing, so to speak. However, obligatory hand-outs to homeless vagrants to further their addictions to alcohol or drugs and cigarettes is another situation all together. We've all  seen pan-handlers perched on major shopping centers, with signs that say: Will Work For Food. Or a man in a wheel chair with a placard with the words: Homeless Hungry Veteran. Please Help. I've been approached in parking lots, with all kinds of stories in solicitation for funds for gasoline, money for bus fare home, and so on... The list is endless. Then there are small groups with colored photo-copied flyers of young children and hand written messages of: Please Help Our 

Baby Sister's Funeral Expenses. I've heard every story imaginable.

 

But there was a time in my life, before I came to Christ still in my teens, when I pan-handled for food. My mother and I were living in a government tract-housing in the Projects. We were poverty-stricken, and there were days when I went hungry. I would ask for spare change for food, and people were very kind. My clothes were clean, face was washed and long hair was neatly combed. But my thin stature was an obvious sign of hunger. I was too poor to afford to be addicted to drugs or alcohol... Perhaps I had an honest face, I don't know. It's pretty easy spot the look in the eyes and face of  an addict. Many had compassion on me and gave what they could spare. Remembering those days, I always keep a coin purse with spare change in my pocket. The amount varies. But when someone male or female asks for a few coins, I reach into my pocket and tell them, "Hold out your hand, I'll give you what I have..." And I empty my coin purse into their palm. They look at the amount and with a smile, always express gratitude with a "God bless you!"

 

As previously mentioned, I can easily spot an addict. But there are people on the street who are in desperate need. I wasn't judged in my day, so who am I to judge? If I make a mistake in character which is rare  by the way, God knows my heart. Just a final note: I don't recommend women to make themselves potential victims, by opening their pocket books or purses to strangers. Even an honestly homeless man in hunger can be tempted to take advantage of you, and you could become seriously hurt.  

God bless you,     

Shalom

David/BeauJangles


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So around 14 years ago I was sitting in jail on my bunk minding my own business. I began to have thoughts like what good is my life doing, and what good am I doing in the world. The answer was none. I was totaly corrupt and wicked. I was full of the devil. After pondering these questions only for a few moments I felt a weight, a very heavy burden. I knew I was powerless to change and suddenly I did not want to be wicked anymore. Deep down I wanted to leave a mark on the world for good. This is when I first knew God was there. I began crying like a little baby right in front of a whole tank of grown men, which crying isnt really my style. I literaly was so weighed down I fell of my bunk and sat on the floor and I was rocking back and forth. As I looked up to where I felt His presence I said over and over... I'll be good, I'll be good. If you are not savvy on jail house rules, you stick to your own race. I am white. The biggest black guy in there which is about three of me( and I am a good sized fella) spoke up for me. Someone asked whats he doing, and he spoke up and said praying man, and anyone that messes with him is going to answer to me. I could hear all this going on but I didnt care, I had for the first time in my life met God. God lifted this weight off me and I felt so much better. Oh what a relief it was. No man preached to me. No person helped me. And God had sent many many people before this not only in jail but in the free world too to declare the good news to me. Until God came to me my heart was stone. I was in desperate need and God helped me. God truly does not need anyones help. Hemade the heavens and the earth. He breathed the breath of life into adams nostrils and he became a living soul. Really, what can we do for Him? Besides just being available for Him to use us as a vessel? Truely, God dose not need our help.

 

Amen. God does not need anything from us - but I guess that he would probably like it. After all, he loves us.


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I've been wondering for sometime now about this. If God calls on you to help someone and you refuse too. Will that person go without help? Or would God find another way to see that the person gets the help they need?

He uses us when we are willing with a cheerful heart, He knows our hearts and who is willing. God knows when someone truly is in need, and that is when He touches the hearts of the ones who have the gift of giving with a cheerful heart. He'll always find a way to help the ones who are in "honest" need, whether it be with you or someone else.
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Amen Cletus...
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I've been wondering for sometime now about this. If God calls on you to help someone and you refuse too. Will that person go without help? Or would God find another way to see that the person gets the help they need?

God does not need our help. 

The person may or may not go without help. I doubt it's a one answer fits all situations. It could easily be that you were called on to help that person to benefit you, not necessarily the other person so much. 

And God already knows the ultimate of that person anyway, as well as your reaction to the calling.


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I've been wondering for sometime now about this. If God calls on you to help someone and you refuse too. Will that person go without help? Or would God find another way to see that the person gets the help they need?

God's will be done.


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For if thou altogether holdest thy peace at this time, then shall there enlargement and deliverance arise to the Jews, from another place; but thou and thy father's house shall be destroyed: and who knoweth whether thou are come to the kingdom for sucha a time as this?

Esther 4:14

Mordecai remind Esther that God had put her in this place for such a time as this, but if she refused God could and would deliver the Jews in another way.  I really like what Augustine says in around about way of this issue.  "Without God we cannot,  Without us, God will not."


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What Cletus said! God bless you all. Cletus thanks so much for sharing. What a blessing.
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For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. Jeremiah 29:11

 

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I've been wondering for sometime now about this.

 

If God calls on you to help someone and you refuse too.

 

Will that person go without help?

 

Or would God find another way to see that the person gets the help they need?

 

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Say

 

Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall not be heard. Proverbs 21:13

 

What

 

Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

 

That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

 

Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life. 1 Timothy 6:17-19

 

What~!

 

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

 

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

 

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Matthew 6:19-21


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This is an interesting question. Read Exodus chapter 2. In my Bible (New Living Translation) the last verse reads as follows: 

 

"25 He looked down on the people of Israel and knew it was time to act."

 

The following chapter starts with the story of Moses and the burning bush where God persuades Moses to do his will and lead the Israelites out of slavery.

 

God needs us, many miracles of the Bible are performed through men. If God were to always fix problems on his own, then faithful people wouldn't be necessary.


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Blessings Everyone

    God does not need us,He is in need of nothing & no one,,,,,,,He loves us & desires relationship with us.Our obedience to do the Will of God is a good thing for us & for others but His Will will be done with or without us........We serve a Mighty God that has no boundaries & is without limit........but oh,He loves us & uses us and to Him be the Glory!What a Blessing it is indeed,to be a Blessing.........

     Thanks to the living testimonies He places in our lives,like Cletus......He demonstrates His Power,His Love,His Mercy,His Compassion.....He is a forgiving God that will have Mercy on who He will have mercy..........

     I know my Provider,my Source and He has placed people in my life that are obedient to Him,they serve God in the purpose for which they are called and in return they are bountifully Blessed........and again,we give Him the Glory!We can all be used by God but if we do not follow His calling then He simply uses someone else........this is evident in all of our lives as we meet different people in different situations & times throughout lifes journey,,,,,people will come & go & at times greatly disappoint us but God remain faithful........He is the Great I Am!

                                                                                                                                               With love-in Christ,Kwik


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I've been wondering for sometime now about this. If God calls on you to help someone and you refuse too. Will that person go without help? Or would God find another way to see that the person gets the help they need?

I've been reading in Samuel recently, with a story that may help answer this question. Granted it's about one nation, Israel, performing God's wrath on another, Amalekites. But, I think it shows that God's will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. If not through one, then through another:

 

God commanded Saul to kill all Amalekites for what they had done while the Israelites were traveling through the wilderness from Egypt (Ex 17:8-16)

 

1Sa 15:1-4 KJV - Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
 - Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
- Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
- And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

 

 

However, Saul disobeyed. He did not kill the king nor the best of the asses. God commanded him to kill all.

 

 

1Sa 15:8-9 - And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.

 - But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly. 

 

This displeased the LORD:

 

1Sa 15:11 KJV - It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.

 

1Sa 15:19 KJV - Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the LORD, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the LORD?

 

And because of this, Saul's kingship was "rent" from him and given to David. 

 

1Sa 15:23 KJV - For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

 

1Sa 15:28 KJV - And Samuel said unto him, The LORD hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou.

 

1Sa 28:17-18 KJV - And the LORD hath done to him, as he spake by me: for the LORD hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David:

 - Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this thing unto thee this day.

 

However, the LORD's will is still carried out by one that was willing to follow the command of the LORD 100%:

 

1Sa 15:32-33 KJV - Then said Samuel, Bring ye hither to me Agag the king of the Amalekites. And Agag came unto him delicately. And Agag said, Surely the bitterness of death is past.

- And Samuel said, As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD in Gilgal.

 

The Lord Jesus Christ also gave a commandment that we should treat our neighbors as ourselves if not better (Matt 22:39, Mark 12:31, Luke 10:27). Then proceeded to define exactly what a neighbor was (Luke 10:30-37).

 

God's will will be carried out in that person's life whether through us or through someone else. If God is calling you to be a blessing to someone, or even to call out someone in their sin/be a sword (Jer 48:10), then be the messenger. You just never know how God may bless someone through you. 


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