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The Coming Kingdom of the Antichrist is NOT a revived Roman Empire
 
Eph writes..
 
Right...He will rise from the Selucid portion of Alexander's kingdom...THAT was from the areas of...Turkey ,,Iran ,,,Iraq Lebanon..Syria..Jordan..a nd a small portion of Afganistan..
 
When you see those areas coming together as one..SIMULAR to what has happened in W. Europe..brace yourself...!
 
America will NOT be any of those "beasts"...! 
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Demension wrote...
 
The Coming Kingdom of the Antichrist is NOT a revived Roman Empire
 
Eph writes..
 
Right...He will rise from the Selucid portion of Alexander's kingdom...THAT was from the areas of...Turkey ,,Iran ,,,Iraq Lebanon..Syria..Jordan..a nd a small portion of Afganistan..
 
When you see those areas coming together as one..SIMULAR to what has happened in W. Europe..brace yourself...!
 
America will NOT be any of those "beasts"...! 

 

 

If you're talking about the 10 horns, they're only in power for an hour and aren't countries.  The only thing I see as possibly being America in prophecy is the city that the 10 horns destroy...NYC.  And that's subject to change if the UN moves it's headquarters.

 

America is in a sad state of decline.  Sad...but necessary I guess.  Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus!

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Demension wrote...
 
The Coming Kingdom of the Antichrist is NOT a revived Roman Empire
 
Eph writes..
 
Right...He will rise from the Selucid portion of Alexander's kingdom...THAT was from the areas of...Turkey ,,Iran ,,,Iraq Lebanon..Syria..Jordan..a nd a small portion of Afganistan..
 
When you see those areas coming together as one..SIMULAR to what has happened in W. Europe..brace yourself...!
 
America will NOT be any of those "beasts"...! 

 

 

You're right, America will not be any 'beast' kingdom, nor will the Antichrist come from the West. Instead, America will be under attack by the "another beast" and under control with all nations by the coming Antichrist, just as the state of Israel will be.

 

The Antichrist's coming war for the tribulation will be upon God's people, of both deceived Jews and believing Christians. So where today are the majority of Jews and Christians? In the West. So the state of Israel will not be the only direct target of command and control by the coming Antichrist.

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America means house of eternal love or being. I believe it to be the core focus of God in the end times. It appears that we have turned Gods house of prayer into a den of theives who merchandise the people. But fear not as Christ will come and cleanse the temple as soon as he fastens together the whip. :-)

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America means house of eternal love or being. I believe it to be the core focus of God in the end times. It appears that we have turned Gods house of prayer into a den of theives who merchandise the people. But fear not as Christ will come and cleanse the temple as soon as he fastens together the whip. :-)

 

I'm afraid you're right, in part. I say in part, because there has always been a remnant that knew the Truth which God left even in the worst times of Israel's histories of rebellion against Him. We in the Americas are no different, and likewise in the state of Israel today.

 

Isaiah 17:3-11

The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the Lord of hosts.

And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.

And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.

Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the Lord God of Israel.

At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.

And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect that which his fingers have made, either the groves, or the images.

In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation.

10 Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the Rock of thy strength, therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips:

11 In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow, and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish: but the harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.

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The  Real

 

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

 

Deal

 

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 6:47

 

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Demension wrote...
 
The Coming Kingdom of the Antichrist is NOT a revived Roman Empire
 
Eph writes..
 
Right...He will rise from the Selucid portion of Alexander's kingdom...THAT was from the areas of...Turkey ,,Iran ,,,Iraq Lebanon..Syria..Jordan..a nd a small portion of Afganistan..
 
When you see those areas coming together as one..SIMULAR to what has happened in W. Europe..brace yourself...!
 
America will NOT be any of those "beasts"...! 

 

~

 

Beloved, Do You Know

 

I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 5:43

 

The Real

 

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:10

 

Christ?

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

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Be Blessed Beloved

 

Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

 

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2 Corinthians 5:20-21

 

Love, Joe

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America is part of the british empire and so is Canada,australia etc.

The ten elites holds the monetary system of the world. 

And they are jews, the false prophet has to have jewish blood.

He will be their man to rule the world with power and deceptions.

He will not be of arab decent.

 

The false prophet is to appear as the messiah,he must be of jewish blood.

A fake messiah.

The ten elites have sold their souls to the devil,and is also used by him.

Satan's plan is just one thing; to destroy mankind from the face of the earth.Isaiah 10.

Destroy them while they are not in Christ.Take all with him to the lake of fire; for he knows that is where he will end up. 

But God already knows who are his; they are them He had drawn to Christ,and Christ will feed them.

The most troubled creature in this universe is satan, and of course his angels.

 

jesse.

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Are they Jews or Edomites living within the Jewish communities as did Herod?

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Are they Jews or Edomites living within the Jewish communities as did Herod?

Other one.

 

That I can not tell you, but he will have jewish blood. Edom is of Esau, who sold his inheritance for a bowl of

soup. Babylon is Edom selling their inheritance for material things. 

 

jesse

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Are they Jews or Edomites living within the Jewish communities as did Herod?

Other one.

 

That I can not tell you, but he will have jewish blood. Edom is of Esau, who sold his inheritance for a bowl of

soup. Babylon is Edom selling their inheritance for material things. 

 

jesse

 

interesting thoughts...

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Are they Jews or Edomites living within the Jewish communities as did Herod?

Other one.

 

That I can not tell you, but he will have jewish blood. Edom is of Esau, who sold his inheritance for a bowl of

soup. Babylon is Edom selling their inheritance for material things. 

 

jesse

 

interesting thoughts...

 

Other one.

 

All prophets are of jews.The copy cat prophet should be of jewish blood,not arab.

King Herod had jewish blood in him.His father or mother was jewish.

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Are they Jews or Edomites living within the Jewish communities as did Herod?

Other one.

 

That I can not tell you, but he will have jewish blood. Edom is of Esau, who sold his inheritance for a bowl of

soup. Babylon is Edom selling their inheritance for material things. 

 

jesse

 

interesting thoughts...

 

Other one.

 

All prophets are of jews.The copy cat prophet should be of jewish blood,not arab.

King Herod had jewish blood in him.His father or mother was jewish.

 

His mother was Jewish and his father was from the Edom blood line.

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Are they Jews or Edomites living within the Jewish communities as did Herod?

Other one.

 

That I can not tell you, but he will have jewish blood. Edom is of Esau, who sold his inheritance for a bowl of

soup. Babylon is Edom selling their inheritance for material things. 

 

jesse

 

interesting thoughts...

 

Other one.

 

All prophets are of jews.The copy cat prophet should be of jewish blood,not arab.

King Herod had jewish blood in him.His father or mother was jewish.

 

His mother was Jewish and his father was from the Edom blood line.

 

Thank you other one.

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Are they Jews or Edomites living within the Jewish communities as did Herod?

Other one.

 

That I can not tell you, but he will have jewish blood. Edom is of Esau, who sold his inheritance for a bowl of

soup. Babylon is Edom selling their inheritance for material things. 

 

jesse

 

interesting thoughts...

 

Other one.

 

All prophets are of jews.The copy cat prophet should be of jewish blood,not arab.

King Herod had jewish blood in him.His father or mother was jewish.

 

His mother was Jewish and his father was from the Edom blood line.

 

 

King Herod was an Idumean (of Esau). You apparently forget that God gave Israel to destroy the kingdom of Edom that was located south of Judea. Then many of the Idumeans migrated into Judea and agreed to become spiritual Jews. They have been mixed among the Jews ever since.

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Are they Jews or Edomites living within the Jewish communities as did Herod?

Other one.

 

That I can not tell you, but he will have jewish blood. Edom is of Esau, who sold his inheritance for a bowl of

soup. Babylon is Edom selling their inheritance for material things. 

 

jesse

 

interesting thoughts...

 

Other one.

 

All prophets are of jews.The copy cat prophet should be of jewish blood,not arab.

King Herod had jewish blood in him.His father or mother was jewish.

 

His mother was Jewish and his father was from the Edom blood line.

 

 

King Herod was an Idumean (of Esau). You apparently forget that God gave Israel to destroy the kingdom of Edom that was located south of Judea. Then many of the Idumeans migrated into Judea and agreed to become spiritual Jews. They have been mixed among the Jews ever since.

 

Salty.

 

All prophets are of jews,and so will be the copy cat. IMO.

 

jesse

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Remember that not everyone who claims to be a Jew is really a Jew......
 

 

Rev 3:9
9'Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews , and are not , but lie —  behold, I will make them to come and bow down at your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
NASB

 

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Remember that not everyone who claims to be a Jew is really a Jew......

 

 

Rev 3:9

9'Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews , and are not , but lie —  behold, I will make them to come and bow down at your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

NASB

 

 

Good one.

 

jesse.

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Remember that not everyone who claims to be a Jew is really a Jew......

 

 

Rev 3:9

9'Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews , and are not , but lie —  behold, I will make them to come and bow down at your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

NASB

 

 

Good one.

 

jesse.

 

 

Yes, good one, and one of the most important matters to understand about the mystery of iniquity of this world, the negative side of God's Plan of Salvation, the tares, and those of Jude 1 ordained of old to that condemnation.

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Anyone.

  Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
 

We christians are to come out of her: who is she?

Islam ?  The vatican (rcc)?  Or what?

 

jesse.

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  Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

 

We christians are to come out of her: who is she?

Islam ?  The vatican (rcc)?  Or what?

 

jesse.

I believe that would be Mystery Babylon (the city of seven hills).  there are many very long threads here on worthy discussing that very subject... 

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  Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

 

We christians are to come out of her: who is she?

Islam ?  The vatican (rcc)?  Or what?

 

jesse.

I believe that would be Mystery Babylon (the city of seven hills).  there are many very long threads here on worthy discussing that very subject... 

 

Other one.

 

There are only two spiritual cities.

1. Zion,the city of God where all the God fearing dwell in spirit.

    The true followers of Christ,they worship God in truth .(Not just in lip service).

    They are in babylon,(the world) *but not of babylon*.They have no spiritual connections with the spirit of babylon.

    They are a peculiar people.They live by the spirit of Christ.

 

2. Babylon; in this spiritual city dwell the majority of the populations.Christians and non christians.

    They live by the spirit of babylon. The spirit of the flesh,greed,lust self service, envy,hate,wars,etc.

    The angel said: to come out of her my people.

    Come out of the city babylon, into the city of God Zion,where there is peace, righteousness and God fearing.

 

Babylon the great is this whole system of things and believe systems.

Of which satan is the king.He is the god of this world,and this world reflects his character.

 

Anyone dwelling in God's city Zion, reflects God's character.

 

jesse.

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I tend to think a bit more literal than do you.....    I really hope you are OK with that.

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I tend to think a bit more literal than do you.....    I really hope you are OK with that.

 

Other one.

 

Are you thinking of the physical babylon?

Yes of course there is the physical,like the nations and the cities etc.

If one lives according to the world;he is part of the world.

But we are not of the world; but we are in the physical world.

We dont join the world spiritually.

 

jesse.

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America is Babylon in Revelations 18th chapter.  Also, the one third of the earth and of man being burned up is the entire Western Hemisphere.  That is the only way that can happen and still have the armies of the beast system be there for the battle at Armegeddon.

 

Also I point out that the second angel herald the destruction of Babylon inbetween the first angel carrying the everlasting gospel to all the world and the third angel; warning the world for taking the mark of the beast will be cast into the lake of fire. 

 

That means the destruction of Babylon is part of what serves as a catalyst for the New World Order to rise to the occasion.  The three angels sets up the coming trial that shall try all on the earth after the pre trib rapture because then no one will be without excuse for not knowing the gospel nor for not knowing the consequences for taking the mark.

 

So America & the entire Western Hemisphere is going to get burned up in setting the stage for the coming great tribulation.

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America is Babylon in Revelations 18th chapter.  Also, the one third of the earth and of man being burned up is the entire Western Hemisphere.  That is the only way that can happen and still have the armies of the beast system be there for the battle at Armegeddon.

 

Also I point out that the second angel herald the destruction of Babylon inbetween the first angel carrying the everlasting gospel to all the world and the third angel; warning the world for taking the mark of the beast will be cast into the lake of fire. 

 

That means the destruction of Babylon is part of what serves as a catalyst for the New World Order to rise to the occasion.  The three angels sets up the coming trial that shall try all on the earth after the pre trib rapture because then no one will be without excuse for not knowing the gospel nor for not knowing the consequences for taking the mark.

 

So America & the entire Western Hemisphere is going to get burned up in setting the stage for the coming great tribulation.

 

Hobbs.

 

  Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts,

                                        ***and the cities of the nations fell***:

***and great Babylon came in remembrance before God***,

***to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath***.

 

The cities of the nations are not just europe.

Come out of her my people; does not mean to come out of just europe(spiritually).

But to come out of the spirit of babylon,and dwell spiritually in Zion.

Many christians claim to be in Zion,but sprititually also in babylon.

Those are the fence sitters.

 

jesse.

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