Jump to content

christian forums

Worthy Christian Forums - Christian Forums

Welcome to Worthy Christian Forums
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

Islam in the US

* * * * * 1 votes

  • Please log in to reply
8 replies to this topic

#1
other one

other one

    Royal Member

  • Royal Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 24,053 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Oklahoma
  • Interests:camping computers

JIHADIS AND FELLOW TRAVELERS WANT A USG RE-EDUCATION PROGRAM
Posted on August 20, 2014

muslimgroupcoalitionBreitbart,

by CLARE M. LOPEZ:

In a chilling 14 August 2014 letter to Lisa O. Monaco, Homeland Security and Counterterrorism advisor at the National Security Council (NSC), reminiscent of the Red Chinese and Soviet gulags, a group of 75 signatories urged the Obama administration to “implement a mandatory retraining program for all federal, state, and local law enforcement officers” who have been exposed to “anti-Muslim” training.

Former FBI counter-terrorism Special Agent, former head of the FBI SWAT team and former combat Marine John Guandolo– a member of the Center for Security Policy (CSP) Team B IIand Founder of Understanding the Threat– was singled out for particular criticism, as was FBI analyst William Gawthrop.

Among the signatories to the letter are CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations, the U.S. HAMAS wing), the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago (CIOGC), which includes Helping Hand for Relief & Development USA, the charitable wing of Muslim Brotherhood front group, Islamic Circle of North America), the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), and the Muslim Alliance in North America (MANA), whose Executive Committee includes the likes of Siraj Wahhaj (named an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) and Ihsan Bagby (member of several U.S. Muslim Brotherhood organizations including the Fiqh Council of North America, the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), and the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)). To round out the Islamic representation, there are two Shi’ite affiliates, the Imam Hussain Islamic Center and Universal Muslim Association of America (UMAA, which seems to have only a Facebook presence online).

Joining them in signing the letter was a gaggle of fellow travelers drawn from across a span of leftist organizations. Perhaps it’s all the ghastly publicity from the Middle East that’s been drawing attention to how Islamic Law (shariah) really looks when it’s implemented in all its barbaric fulsomeness. Or maybe the signatories just decided it was time for the old Red-Green alliance to reprise the glory days of its original efforts to remove training about how Islamic terrorism takes its inspiration from Islamic doctrine, when a 19 October 2011 letter to Monaco’s predecessor, John Brennan, succeeded in launching a U.S. government-wide purge of such curriculum. Then again, it’s possible somebody pulled out a dog-eared copy of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” to review some tips on how to neutralize Guandolo’s stunningly effective law enforcement training about Islam, shariah, and the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Red-Green coalition obviously has realized (likely with dawning horror) that even if Guandolo weren’t still out there reaching sheriffs’ departments across the country, the residual effects of earlier pre-purge training still inform countless law enforcement counterterrorism programs. And the thought that such training lately must only be reinforced by the never-ending stream of atrocities out of the Middle East may have been just enough to tip the group over into serious panic. Hence the letter to Ms. Monaco to urge a little brainwashing, just to make sure nobody somehow connects any of those awful beheadings and crucifixions with Islam (see Qur’anic verses 8:12 and 5:32-33 for details).

First came the physical purge of the training materials. Now must follow the psychological purge of all those minds that absorbed that training. Stalin and Mao—never mind Qutb and Khomeini—would be so proud.

Clare M. Lopez is the Vice President for Research & Analysis at the Center for Security Policy.

Also see:

    American Muslim Organizations Pen Letter Against Surveillance of Islamist Groups (counterjihadreport.com)
    Progressives and Jihadis Seek to Silence UTT’s Influence In Letter to White House by John Guandolo (understandingthethreat.com)
    A detailed look at ‘the purge’ of U.S. counter-terrorism training by the Obama administration by Patrick Poole (theblaze.com)


  • 1

#2
other one

other one

    Royal Member

  • Royal Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 24,053 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Oklahoma
  • Interests:camping computers

Here is the letter mentioned.

 

 

August 14, 2014
Lisa O. Monaco
Assistant to the President for Homeland Security
and Counterterrorism
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500
Dear Ms. Monaco:
The undersigned organizations urge you to take immediate action to end the use
of anti-Muslim training materials and address anti-Muslim conduct exhibited by agencies
throughout the federal government. This problem has persisted for many years, and
recent revelations in a July 9, 2014 article in The Intercept underscore the urgent need to
take concrete action to eliminate bias from our nation’s law enforcement and intelligence
agencies. Those revelations include a template memorandum reportedly used to justify
intelligence surveillance that has a reference to “Mohammed Raghead” as the placeholder
target. They also include an FBI official’s admission that he specifically sought
surveillance on American Muslim targets.
We appreciate that the White House has recently decried “the use of racial or
ethnic stereotypes, slurs, or other similar language by employees” as “both unacceptable
and inconsistent with the country's core values.” The White House directed the Director
of National Intelligence (DNI) to undertake an assessment of Intelligence Community
policies, training standards or directives that promote diversity and tolerance, and, as
necessary, make any recommendations, changes, or additional reforms. We are
dismayed, however, that after an initial review the DNI has instead chosen only to expand
multicultural and diversity sensitivity training and re-establish an external advisory board
on diversity and inclusion. These measures may be necessary, but they do not directly
address the persistent problem of law enforcement and intelligence agencies using anti-
Muslim training materials and engaging in discriminatory law enforcement.
The Intercept article highlights the latest, troubling example of virulently anti-
Muslim trainings and discriminatory conduct by government officials. For example,
John Guandolo, a former FBI counterterrorism official who believes CIA Director John
Brennan is a “closet Muslim” and the FBI has been taken over by the Muslim
Brotherhood, has trained agents that “mainstream” Muslims should be treated as
supporters of terrorism. Guandolo’s definition of activities that merit surveillance
encompasses so many basic practices of Islam that it would include virtually every
Muslim in the United States and activities protected by the First Amendment. Similarly,
FBI analyst William Gawthrop has instructed law enforcement officials that Islam is a
“Death Star” that must be destroyed.
In addition, the disturbing template memo referenced in The Intercept article that
uses a religious slur as the placeholder for the name of surveillance targets was used by
an untold number of law enforcement and/or intelligence agents and officials, sending the
Ms. Lisa O. Monaco
August 14, 2014
Page 2 of 5
!
!
!
message that targeting a community based on racial, ethnic and religious stereotypes is
appropriate. Furthermore, the “raghead” slur encompasses people of other faiths who are
also impacted by bigoted trainings and practices.
As you know, the problems with biased conduct and training materials extend far
beyond those referenced in The Intercept article. The breadth of the problem and its
prevalence across government agencies was explained in a letter addressed to your
predecessor, Counterterrorism Advisor John Brennan, and signed by more than 100
organizations (see attachment “A”). Mr. Brennan responded by affirming that biased
training “runs completely counter to our values” and “our commitment to strong
partnerships with communities across the country.”
As far back as November 2011, Mr. Brennan agreed the White House would
create an interagency task force to create review processes and build rigorous standards
to ensure training material is not biased.
1
However, there has been no accounting to the
public about any task force on or assessment of the pervasiveness of these biased training
materials and whether the agents and officials involved were subject to any disciplinary
action. Moreover, although there was reportedly a review and purge of a limited portion
of training materials by the FBI, no commitment has been made to review intelligence
products that mirror these biased training materials. We also have received no assurance
that law enforcement and other government employees who participated in these
trainings have been retrained. We are concerned that these biased trainings and
intelligence products continue to drive racial and religious profiling at every stage of the
intelligence-gathering process.
Without executive branch actions, including those we recommend below,
trainings that perpetuate gross stereotypes and false information about Islam and Muslims
will continue to proliferate at the state and local level. For example, John Guandolo, the
same former federal official who was responsible for such training materials at the FBI,
has conducted trainings at county sheriffs’ offices, including Culpeper County, Virginia,
Rutherford County, Tennessee, and Franklin County, Ohio. It is our understanding that
those trainings are open to federal law enforcement officers.
The use of anti-Muslim trainers and materials is not only highly offensive,
disparaging the faith of millions of Americans, but leads to biased policing that targets
individuals and communities based on religion, not evidence of wrongdoing.
Government training materials that include religious epithets also foster fear and
suspicion of American Muslims among law enforcement and the general public,
increasing discrimination, bullying, harassment, and anti-Muslim violence.
The Obama administration made a commitment almost three years ago to address
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1
Nov. 3, 2011 Letter from John O. Brennan to Farhana Khera (see attachment “B”).
Ms. Lisa O. Monaco
August 14, 2014
Page 3 of 5
!
!
!
this issue that Mr. Brennan described as “critical to ensuring the security of the United
States,”
2
yet we have seen no significant change. The time is now for the administration
to go beyond mere assurances of reform and take concrete, corrective action to make
these trainings and materials consistent with our American values and protect Americans
from real threats. We urge you to promptly undertake the following steps:
(1) Audit all federal law enforcement and intelligence gathering training
and educational materials to identify and remove information that is
factually incorrect or exhibits bias against any race, ethnicity, religion, or
national origin;
(2) Implement a mandatory retraining program for all federal, state and
local law enforcement officials who have been subjected to biased and
discriminatory trainings provided by the federal government or with
federal funds;
(3) Pursue disciplinary action against those agents and officials engaging
in discriminatory conduct and responsible for these training materials;
(4) Require federal agencies that provide law enforcement and homeland
security funding to state and local governments to condition such funding
on carrying out training or otherwise using federal funds in a manner that
upholds our nation’s commitment to equal treatment and equal justice
under the law and barring the use of trainers or materials that exhibit bias
against any race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin.
Thank you for your attention to this urgent and profoundly important problem.
We look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Advocacy for Principled Action in Government
American Center for Outreach
American Civil Liberties Union
American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC)
Arab American Action Network (AAAN)
Arab American Association of New York
Arab American Institute
Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund (AALDEF)
Asian Americans Advancing Justice - Asian Law Caucus
Asian Americans Advancing Justice - Los Angeles
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2
Id.
Ms. Lisa O. Monaco
August 14, 2014
Page 4 of 5
!
!
!
Auburn Seminary
Center for Constitutional Rights
Center for National Security Studies
Center for New Community
Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago
Creating Law Enforcement Accountability & Responsibility (CLEAR)
Defending Dissent Foundation
DRUM - South Asian Organizing Center
Electronic Frontier Foundation
Emerge USA
Franciscan Action Network
Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders (GLAD)
Georgia Association of Muslim Lawyers (GAML)
Human Rights Campaign
Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (ICIRR)
Imam Hussain Islamic Center
Interfaith Alliance
Islamic Information Center of America
Islamic Networks Group (ING)
Jews Against Islamophobia
Jews for Racial and Economic Justice
Lambda Legal
Majlis Ash-Shura (Islamic Leadership Council) of Metropolitan NY
Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF)
Michigan Muslim Bar Association (MMBA)
Michigan Muslim Community Council (MMCC)
Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Muslim Advocates
Muslim Alliance in North America (MANA)
Muslim American Civil Liberties Coalition (MACLC)
Muslim American Community Association
Muslim Bar Association of New York
Muslim Bar Association of Southern California
Muslim Legal Fund of America (MLFA)
Muslim Peace Coalition USA
Muslim Progressive Traditionalist Alliance
Muslim Public Affairs Council
NAACP
NAACP New York State Conference
National Asian Pacific American Bar Association (NAPABA)
National Center for Lesbian Rights
National Center for Transgender Equality
National Gay and Lesbian Task Force
Ms. Lisa O. Monaco
August 14, 2014
Page 5 of 5
!
!
!
National Lawyers Guild
National Muslim Law Students Association
National Religious Campaign Against Torture
New Jersey Muslim Lawyers Association (NJMLA)
OneAmerica
Progressive Congress
Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund (SALDEF)
South Asian Americans Leading Together (SAALT)
The Hindu Temple Society of North America
The Interfaith Center of New York
The International Institute of Tolerance
The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights
The National Network for Arab American Communities (NNAAC)
The Queens Federation of Churches
The Sikh Coalition
Transgender Law Center
T'ruah: The Rabbinic Call for Human Rights
UMMA Community Clinic
United Sikhs
Universal Muslim Association of America (UMAA)
Women in Islam Inc.


  • 1

#3
other one

other one

    Royal Member

  • Royal Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 24,053 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Oklahoma
  • Interests:camping computers

It has been proven in Federal Court that the Muslim Brotherhood is carrying out a long term plan to bring down the United States and make it an Islamic Republic......      and they are asking us not to even be able to tell those people responsible for our protection that they exist........     and our Government seems to be going along with it.

 

 

You might want to start picking out your favorite prayer rug.....    we are seeing now what happens to those who don't submit to allah.   


  • 1

#4
He giveth more grace

He giveth more grace

    Royal Member

  • Royal Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,922 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Western Hemisphere, above the Equator.
  • Interests:History - particular, the rich history of my city.

    Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
My thought, Islamic and Republic are two irreconcilable words.
  • 1

#5
ayin jade

ayin jade

    Royal Member

  • Platinum Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 34,554 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Western US

Then I die. And turned over by the hands of my brother who is pro muslim and part of that very plot.


  • 1

#6
other one

other one

    Royal Member

  • Royal Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 24,053 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Oklahoma
  • Interests:camping computers

i die also, but probably from making them angry with posts like this one...

 

They don't always like me on Face Book.


  • 1

#7
OakWood

OakWood

    Royal Member

  • Royal Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,589 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Coast, Great Britain
  • Interests:Archery, painting, plants and animals, Medieval history

Then I die. And turned over by the hands of my brother who is pro muslim and part of that very plot.

 

?????????


  • 1

#8
Sevenseas

Sevenseas

    Royal Member

  • Royal Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,990 posts
  • Gender:Female

There are only two forces at work in this world.  Choose which one you will serve.  Whether or not we like it or think it is so, we always get to choose.

 

The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly  John 10:10

 

There is no third option.  If you do not serve God you will serve the devil and that is becoming more and more apparent.

 

The devil demands human sacrifice and God prepared his own sacrifice so that we may live.


  • 1

#9
Massorite

Massorite

    Senior Member

  • Senior Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,385 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Georgia

Not just the U.S but the whole world.


  • 1




0 user(s) are browsing this forum

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Worthy Christian Forums - Christian Message Boards - 1999-2014 part of the Worthy Network