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Does God really love everyone?


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Romans 9:13 -- "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

This does not sound like God loved Esau. Most religion including Christianity teaches that God loves everyone but I am not at all confused about what the word "hate" means.

Does God hate?

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I think God loved BOTH.

But God did not approve of Esau. To "hate" is IMO the opposite of to like, to approve.

When I was a boy (and maybe since, lol) my parents have often loved and hated me. They may have been very disappointed with me, very angry with me - but would give me their kidney in a heart beat, lol.


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Romans 9:13 -- "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

This does not sound like God loved Esau. Most religion including Christianity teaches that God loves everyone but I am not at all confused about what the word "hate" means.

Does God hate?

Dan


I think we look at the word hate through our glasses.
When we think of hate we think of possibly vengeance, embitterment, or at least disappointment. With us it is a failure to meet a desired expectation.
God is omniscient, omnipotent he has no shortfalls or disappointments, no axe to grind. He speaks and it is.
I understand hate from that perspective more of a lack of kinship or representation.
God is love, he is the creator - life. Everything he does it just moves things one step higher and he can use what ever means he has a mind to, even Satan's best efforts.

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God loving Jacob and hating Esau has nothing to do with human emotions of love and hate.It has everything to do with God choosing one man and his descendants and rejecting another man and his discendants.Esau's descentants brought God's curse upon themselves.
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Yes, God certainly loves everyone. This is affirmed by John 3:16 stating "For God so loved the world that He gave us His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life." Isn't this enough to prove of God's love.

God created man according to His likeness because of His love. He sent His Son to save us from sins because He loves us. God never hates a person, He loves everyone even the sinners, even those who despise Him. He hates the sins we do, not us!
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Romans 9:13 -- "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

This does not sound like God loved Esau. Most religion including Christianity teaches that God loves everyone but I am not at all confused about what the word "hate" means.

Does God hate?

Dan


It might help to read the whole chapter and not just on verse out of context. With any reading of scripture context is very important. Does the verse mean God hated Esau some will say yes because it is written their in plan sight. I disagree. What I am seeing is Paul making a point about who God chooses and that he has the right to choose.  There is also a theme that seems to be saying that the Abraham's children has never been about physical descent. And that God chose Jacob not Esau without regard to any human effort.

 


Just to point out that the original post that you are replying to was from a guest back in 2009, so it is a good bet that you will not get an answer from them


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God loves everyone in the whole world John 3:16;1John 2:2;Romans 5:8.It is a fact that God is a God of love 1John 4:8,16.

But it does not mean that He will ignore sin.God is also a God of justice 2Thessalonians 1:6.Sin cannot go unpunished forever Romans3:25-26.


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It's quite possible that God can love and hate someone at the same time.  He loves because that is who he is.  He hates people (such as Esau) because they will not be separated from their sin and he hates their sin.  But He loves them too.


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God does not hate anyone.But He hates sin.


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