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DearJudy,OurLord
post Nov 20 2008, 12:15 PM
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hi all

i go to a group meeting with our youth pastor and youths that have it in their hearts to be there we have been doing this for 3 1/2 years i have been there .....now our pastor has recently asked us to share a word theres 9 of us ....almost always the same peeps never bring a word so ... yesterday i blow up (i know i shouldnt have ) but didnt she ask us to do this __ they say "no i dont have one "..when she asks us to begin to share ......well like they dont even care this is every time they have been around longer than i ... i guess i'm just tired of the baby stuff... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/noidea.gif)
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post Nov 20 2008, 12:34 PM
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blessings judy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

could be that others do not share for a variety of reasons including:

they could be introverted and find it uncomfortable to speak and feel they are being put on the spot.

or

they do not beleieve that they are "wise " enough yet to share anything and need to learn more.

or
they do not feel "safe" sharing in that format.

or
they are not as mature as others in their walk with the Lord.

or

they do not care.
or
they may learn more from listening to others and thinking about it



there maybe lots of other reasons why they do not share. i would suggest that instead of blowing up you continue to share with them and also find another Bible study there that would offer you the meat of what you are looking for.

hope this helps,
love your sister in Christ,
Rebekah David
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post Nov 20 2008, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (DearJudy,OurLord @ Nov 20 2008, 12:15 PM) *
hi all

i go to a group meeting with our youth pastor and youths that have it in their hearts to be there we have been doing this for 3 1/2 years i have been there .....now our pastor has recently asked us to share a word theres 9 of us ....almost always the same peeps never bring a word so ... yesterday i blow up (i know i shouldnt have ) but didnt she ask us to do this __ they say "no i dont have one "..when she asks us to begin to share ......well like they dont even care this is every time they have been around longer than i ... i guess i'm just tired of the baby stuff... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/noidea.gif)







thanks


def will share no matter what ...i just want them to wake up ...yes i'm gonna pray about it defdef thanks a bunch
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post Nov 20 2008, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE (RebekahDavid @ Nov 20 2008, 12:34 PM) *
blessings judy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

could be that others do not share for a variety of reasons including:

they could be introverted and find it uncomfortable to speak and feel they are being put on the spot.

or

they do not beleieve that they are "wise " enough yet to share anything and need to learn more.

or
they do not feel "safe" sharing in that format.

or
they are not as mature as others in their walk with the Lord.

or

they do not care.
or
they may learn more from listening to others and thinking about it



there maybe lots of other reasons why they do not share. i would suggest that instead of blowing up you continue to share with them and also find another Bible study there that would offer you the meat of what you are looking for.

hope this helps,
love your sister in Christ,
Rebekah David


None of those reasons hold water. They need to be strongly encouraged to do what they have been asked. Jesus expects us to make verbal confession. The only reason that is valid is if they do not believe in Jesus Christ.

Apathy is a big problem and needs to be addressed by the leadership. These are that church's next generation of leaders. They need strong words to make them know that they need to get up and get moving for God. If they aren't willing to open their mouths for Him, then He can't use them and they won't grow beyond this heart condition, which is plainly disobedience.

It is pretty disheartening.
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post Nov 20 2008, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (Floatingaxe @ Nov 20 2008, 12:56 PM) *
QUOTE (RebekahDavid @ Nov 20 2008, 12:34 PM) *
blessings judy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

could be that others do not share for a variety of reasons including:

they could be introverted and find it uncomfortable to speak and feel they are being put on the spot.

or

they do not beleieve that they are "wise " enough yet to share anything and need to learn more.

or
they do not feel "safe" sharing in that format.

or
they are not as mature as others in their walk with the Lord.

or

they do not care.
or
they may learn more from listening to others and thinking about it



there maybe lots of other reasons why they do not share. i would suggest that instead of blowing up you continue to share with them and also find another Bible study there that would offer you the meat of what you are looking for.

hope this helps,
love your sister in Christ,
Rebekah David


None of those reasons hold water. They need to be strongly encouraged to do what they have been asked. Jesus expects us to make verbal confession. The only reason that is valid is if they do not believe in Jesus Christ.

Apathy is a big problem and needs to be addressed by the leadership. These are that church's next generation of leaders. They need strong words to make them know that they need to get up and get moving for God. If they aren't willing to open their mouths for Him, then He can't use them and they won't grow beyond this heart condition, which is plainly disobedience.

It is pretty disheartening.






THANK YOU thats what im saying lol
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post Nov 20 2008, 02:39 PM
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I do agree that we should be encouraging eachother to speak up about our faith, about what God's doing in our lives...but I think there's probably a better way to go about that than blowing up. Remember that your conversation needs to be full of grace. You may well be speaking the truth, but sometimes people who are timid like that need a gentle hand, not an explosion.

I think maybe the Youth Pastor or another spiritual leader they can trust needs to spend some one-on-one time with them, ask them personally what's up, where they've seen God's work in their lives, things like that.
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post Nov 20 2008, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (Floatingaxe @ Nov 20 2008, 12:56 PM) *
QUOTE (RebekahDavid @ Nov 20 2008, 12:34 PM) *
blessings judy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

could be that others do not share for a variety of reasons including:

they could be introverted and find it uncomfortable to speak and feel they are being put on the spot.

or

they do not beleieve that they are "wise " enough yet to share anything and need to learn more.

or
they do not feel "safe" sharing in that format.

or
they are not as mature as others in their walk with the Lord.

or

they do not care.
or
they may learn more from listening to others and thinking about it



there maybe lots of other reasons why they do not share. i would suggest that instead of blowing up you continue to share with them and also find another Bible study there that would offer you the meat of what you are looking for.

hope this helps,
love your sister in Christ,
Rebekah David


None of those reasons hold water. They need to be strongly encouraged to do what they have been asked. Jesus expects us to make verbal confession. The only reason that is valid is if they do not believe in Jesus Christ.

Apathy is a big problem and needs to be addressed by the leadership. These are that church's next generation of leaders. They need strong words to make them know that they need to get up and get moving for God. If they aren't willing to open their mouths for Him, then He can't use them and they won't grow beyond this heart condition, which is plainly disobedience.

It is pretty disheartening.



blessings FA,
i did not write the reasons to be an excuse but so that Judy may better understand the "why "some of her fellow youth group were not speaking. that will affect both how you encourage them and how to pray for them. having dealt with introverted teens before in groups sometimes as Irssya said one on one encouragement works better with gentile guidance than group"mandates". to know where they are personally in their individual walks with the Lord is crucial ie are they saved? needs to be addressed first one on one. some may be going through the ritual of going and have not committed their hearts yet to the Lord. this they may not admit in group but may one on one as well. and this is more crucial than a false contrived confession to please others. praying for your youth leaders and group here Judy.
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Rebekah David
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post Dec 14 2008, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (Floatingaxe @ Nov 20 2008, 11:56 AM) *
QUOTE (RebekahDavid @ Nov 20 2008, 12:34 PM) *
blessings judy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

could be that others do not share for a variety of reasons including:

they could be introverted and find it uncomfortable to speak and feel they are being put on the spot.

or

they do not beleieve that they are "wise " enough yet to share anything and need to learn more.

or
[b]they do not feel "safe" sharing in that format.


or
they are not as mature as others in their walk with the Lord.

or

they do not care.
or
they may learn more from listening to others and thinking about it

[/b]

there maybe lots of other reasons why they do not share. i would suggest that instead of blowing up you continue to share with them and also find another Bible study there that would offer you the meat of what you are looking for.

hope this helps,
love your sister in Christ,
Rebekah David


None of those reasons hold water. They need to be strongly encouraged to do what they have been asked. Jesus expects us to make verbal confession. The only reason that is valid is if they do not believe in Jesus Christ.

Apathy is a big problem and needs to be addressed by the leadership. These are that church's next generation of leaders. They need strong words to make them know that they need to get up and get moving for God. If they aren't willing to open their mouths for Him, then He can't use them and they won't grow beyond this heart condition, which is plainly disobedience.

It is pretty disheartening.




this comment/reason would have been enough for me to have fled 25 - 30 years ago..... not having any thing to say, or not knowing what to say (even if i did do all the studying and more that was requested) I did not like speaking in front of others, and would keep my mouth shut... put me on the spot? yep, i was gone.....

now, if I was in a group of 2 or 3 others (max) i would participate.... anything larger, forget it.

on case i can remember we were having a youth activity, where we were to ask questions about anything to do with anything, a young man asked why it was so hard to ask a girl to be his friend..... he was laughed at, and teased, and well, he never showed up again.... it is obvious that this young man did not feel he was in a safe environment or that his thoughts really mattered....

maybe, just maybe the folks in the group being spoke about, are from backgrounds that also mimic the ones i have witnessed.
and having a remark, or comments, or a blowing up, might even push people further away....

mike
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