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When Does the Lord Smite Edom?


WilliamL

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When Does the Lord Smite Edom?

Isaiah 63:1 Who is this who comes from aEdoma, with dyed garments from aBozraha? This one who is glorious in his apparel, traveling in the greatness of his strength?

I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

2 Why is your apparel red, and your garments like one who treads in the winepress?

3 I have trodden the winepress balone; and of the people there was none with meb: for I trod them in my anger, and trampled them in my fury; and ctheir blood has been spattered upon my garments, and I have stained all my robesc.

4 For dthe Day of Vengeance [i.e., Wrath]d is in My heart, and the year of My redeemed has come.

5 I looked, but bthere was no one [else] to helpb, and I wonder-ed, because bthere was no one [else] to upholdb;

Therefore My own arm brought salvation for me, and dMy own furyd, it sustained Me.

Isaiah 34:4 All the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and ethe heavens shall be rolled up like a scrolle

Revelation 6:12 And I looked when he opened the Sixth Seal 14 And ethe sky receded like a scroll when it is rolled upe

Isaiah 34:4 fAll their host shall fall down…as figs falling from a fig treef.

Revelation 6:13 And fthe stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its unripe figsf when it is shaken by a mighty wind. …

Isaiah 34:5 For My sword shall be bathed in heaven, indeed it shall come down on aEdoma,

And on the people of My curse, for judgment.

6 The sword of the LORD is filled with cbloodc

For the LORD has a sacrifice in aBozraha, and a great slaughter in the land of aEdoma.

7 Because it is dthe Day of the LORDʼs Vengeanced

Revelation 6:17 For dthe Great Day of His Wrathd has come, and who is able to stand?

Must not the things above – and specifically, this bloody battle fought with the Edomites by the Lord alone – come before this?

Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven having been opened, and behold a white horse; and the one sitting upon him being called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. … 13 And [he] having been cclothed with a garment having been covered in bloodc: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And gthe armies which were in heaven followed himg 19 And I saw the Beast, and the kings of the earth and their armies, having been assembled to make war with Him who sat on the horse and with his army.

Are not these TWO distinct events that take place separately? Namely,

1) The Lord baloneb, getting cHis garment stained with bloodc.

2) The Lord gwith the armies of heaveng, “with ca garment [already] having been covered/stained [perfect passive participle] in bloodc,” going out to another battle sometime after the former battle.

At that later battle, at which time heaven will be opened, Revelation 19:11-13 testifies that Jesus’ clothing will already have been covered in blood. Blood only comes from bodies of flesh. Bodies of flesh and blood only dwell upon the face of the earth. Therefore, what other explanation for this blood is possi-ble than this? – Jesus’ clothing will become blood-soaked on earth sometime before his descent in Revelation 19 to fight with the Beast and his allies.

The following prophecy says that the Lord will indeed be upon earth before his wrath is fulfilled at the culminating battle of Revelation 19:

Ezekiel 20:33 [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and dwith fury [or, wrath] being poured outd will I rule over you: 34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and dwith fury [or, wrath] being poured outd. 35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there I will plead with you face to face. 36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD. 37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant: 38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD. … 42 Then you shall know that I am the LORD, when I bring you into the land of Israel, into the country for which I raised my hand in an oath to give to your fathers.

Compare the prophecy above with these passages from the Exodus era:

Exodus 33:11 And the LORD spoke unto Moses face to face, as a man speaks unto his friend.

Deuteronomy 5:4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire.

Deuteronomy 34:10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face.

Just like in the Exodus era, the Lord will be shepherding his people Israel upon earth before the culminating battle of the End of the Age. The Lord’s shepherding “in the Last Days” (Gen. 49:1) is also witnessed here in Jacob’s prophecy for his son Joseph’s descendants:

Genesis 49:23 The masters of arrows/missiles will have bitterly grieved him [Joseph], and will have shot at him and will have hated him. 24 But his bow shall remain/abide in strength, and the arms of his hands shall be refined (as gold)/ made strong by the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob (from thence will be shepherding the Stone of Israel), 25 from the God of thy Father who shall help thee…

From thence will be shepherding”: Qal predicative Active Participle in Hebrew. This is a verb, not a noun.* “The Stone of Israel” is Christ – “the Stone which the builders rejected” – who will shepherd his people of earthly Israel/Joseph when they come under attack in the Latter Days.

All of these earthly events, including the Lord’s battle with Edom, will take place AFTER the Church has ascended from earth at Christ’s Coming in the clouds. Scriptures that reveal events BEFORE that ascension are detailed in other articles.

Most of the Church knows little about God’s End Times purposes for “the remnant of Jacob,” earthly Israel; and like-wise, most of earthly Israel knows little about God’s plans for the ascended Church.

 

*The phrase reads,

מִשָּׁם/from thence רֹעֶה/will be shepherding: Qal predicative Active Particle ms אֶבֶן/the Stone יִשְׂרָאֵֽל/of Israel.

Most Bible versions, such as the King James, presume רֹעֶה to be a substantive participle (one used as a noun): “one shepherd-ing/a shepherd.” But that does not fit the grammatical context, because a substantive participle would require either

1) “from thence a shepherd, the Stone of Israel,” if used as a stand-alone phrase; or

2) “from thence the shepherd of the Stone of Israel,” if used as part of a construct chain of nouns.

Both cases are nonsensical for a number of contextual and theological reasons. The primary one being that “from thence” (or “from there”) has no reference point: from thence the shepherd does what?

In contrast, “from thence will be shepherding the Stone of Israel” – that is to say, from that time (forth) Yeshua will be shepherding the earthly remnant of Joseph – perfectly fits this time of a Latter Day assault upon an Israelite people, as wit-nessed by a number of other End Time prophecies. Cf. Jer. 30:5-11; Isaiah 17:3a, 4, 10-14; 28:1-6; Zech. 9:10-17; 10:6-7; also Ezek. 20:33ff. quoted above.

 

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